The season has played out and the bottom tier is becoming more clear.

NIU
BSU

TOLEDO
BUFFALO
BG

CMU
OU

AKRON
KENT

EMU
UMASS
WMU

MIAMI

Go Redhawks! Third in hockey and First in football!

And only have to turn the paper upside down in one of those.

(11-11-2013 01:37 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  The season has played out and the bottom tier is becoming more clear.

NIU
BSU

TOLEDO
BUFFALO
BG

CMU
OU

AKRON
KENT

EMU
UMASS
WMU

MIAMI

i think this is an accurate representation of the MAC football race at the moment. good job.

sure lets pretend Ohio isn't 6-3 with wins over 2 bowl eligible teams and put them behind a team thats 3-6 because, why not.

(11-11-2013 11:07 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  sure lets pretend Ohio isn't 6-3 with wins over 2 bowl eligible teams and put them behind a team thats 3-6 because, why not.

Well that 3-6 team did beat OU in Athens.

oh look, its Toledo fans.

(11-11-2013 11:15 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  oh look, its Toledo fans.

Ohhhh look..... An Ohio fan embarrassed by facts again.

(11-11-2013 11:07 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  sure lets pretend Ohio isn't 6-3 with wins over 2 bowl eligible teams and put them behind a team thats 3-6 because, why not.

You're the one that always harping on head-to-head.

Minor point but OU should probably be above CMU based on "totality" of work (i.e. the entire season, not one game).

(11-11-2013 11:36 AM)Frozenbaugh Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 11:07 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  sure lets pretend Ohio isn't 6-3 with wins over 2 bowl eligible teams and put them behind a team thats 3-6 because, why not.

You're the one that always harping on head-to-head.

and Ball State lost to a team Ohio beat so..

(11-11-2013 12:00 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 11:36 AM)Frozenbaugh Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 11:07 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  sure lets pretend Ohio isn't 6-3 with wins over 2 bowl eligible teams and put them behind a team thats 3-6 because, why not.

You're the one that always harping on head-to-head.

and Ball State lost to a team Ohio beat so..

So head to head is not defining but common oppoent is... lol

Toledo ahead of Buffalo? Justify that please, thanks.

Buffalo is undefeated in the league and have beaten those teams by 28, 33, 29, 20 and 27 points respectively.

Granted, it's not the toughest schedule, but OU was a big win and they are still getting it done against the others.

I guess we'll know for sure in a couple days!

I could go either way on Toledo / Buffalo...

Both teams lost OOC games but Toledo in conference losses have been to powers. I think the game hinges on Flu..

I think Buffalo-Toledo will be an excellent game but after seeing Buffalo completely stymy the Ohio offense i was impressed.

(11-11-2013 12:36 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  I think Buffalo-Toledo will be an excellent game but after seeing Buffalo completely stymy the Ohio offense i was impressed.

maybe, maybe a preview of MACC? Stranger things have happened.

(11-11-2013 12:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Toledo ahead of Buffalo? Justify that please, thanks.

Buffalo is undefeated in the league and have beaten those teams by 28, 33, 29, 20 and 27 points respectively.

Granted, it's not the toughest schedule, but OU was a big win and they are still getting it done against the others.

I guess we'll know for sure in a couple days!

Not bothered by that. The poll is arranged into tiers, so what OP is essentially saying is "too close to call", and the head to head will bear it out.

(11-11-2013 12:52 PM)bullsnotbills Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 12:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Toledo ahead of Buffalo? Justify that please, thanks.

Buffalo is undefeated in the league and have beaten those teams by 28, 33, 29, 20 and 27 points respectively.

Granted, it's not the toughest schedule, but OU was a big win and they are still getting it done against the others.

I guess we'll know for sure in a couple days!

Not bothered by that. The poll is arranged into tiers, so what OP is essentially saying is "too close to call", and the head to head will bear it out.

I thought that at first too, but in that case you should normally alphabetize each section.

Like I said...it's close and we'll know for sure tomorrow...but hard to knock an undefeated team down a peg over someone with a loss.

(11-11-2013 12:49 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  

(11-11-2013 12:36 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  I think Buffalo-Toledo will be an excellent game but after seeing Buffalo completely stymy the Ohio offense i was impressed.

maybe, maybe a preview of MACC? Stranger things have happened.

Well Buffalo would have to lose tomorrow for that to be realistic so lets hope not!

(11-11-2013 01:37 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  The season has played out and the bottom tier is becoming more clear.

NIU
BSU

TOLEDO
BUFFALO
BG

CMU
OU

AKRON
KENT

EMU
UMASS
WMU

MIAMI

I'd flip UMass and WMU. They won head to head, therefore they deserve to be ranked higher IMO.

CMU has lost to Toledo, BSU, and NIU in conference, that is why I do think they are better an OU. They have won their games vs. other competitive or worse teams in the conference. All opinion still. If CMU loses again I would put OU ahead, but if OU ends 7-5, and CMU 6-6 I am giving the nod to CMU.

As far as Toledo and Buffalo goes, we will find out tomorrow. Toledo has decimated its common opponents with Buffalo just as badly. Buffalo beat EMU 42-14. Toledo beat EMU 55-17. Buffalo beat WMU 33-0. Toledo beat WMU 47-20.