tOSU fans can start practicing how they are going to complain when an undefeated Buckeye team doesn't go to the National Championship game.

Honestly, I'd be Ok if we got left out behind an undefeated Alabama and an undefeated Oregon. If an undefeated OSU gets left out behind a 1-loss team, then yeah there will be a lot of whining.

I've surprisingly heard several people thinking we shouldn't be in the national championship at this point. I think we'd stand more a chance than we are given credit for, but Tressel did have several teams better than this one.

At this point, I think the list for national championship probably goes like this:

1. Undefeated SEC champ
2. Undefeated Oregon
3. Undefeated ACC (right now below Ohio State in Coaches, but I think would rise if undefeated)
4. Undefeated Stanford (maybe UCLA too, if not, they go below the next one)
5. Undefeated Big Ten (Ohio State or Michigan)
6. 1 loss SEC champs
7. Undefeated Louisville

That said, I'm not sweating anything. There's plenty of time for upsets and three undefeated power conference teams is quite rare. Worse case senario, if we finish unbeaten, we're in the 100th Rose Bowl.

By the way, I wrote this and the tone was off a few octaves.

I actually think they probably will have an argument but the other posts here kind of wrap it up nicely. I think ohio1317 nails it.

(10-07-2013 08:50 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Honestly, I'd be Ok if we got left out behind an undefeated Alabama and an undefeated Oregon.

What about an unbeaten ACC team, like Clemson or FSU?

(10-07-2013 09:01 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  That said, I'm not sweating anything. There's plenty of time for upsets and three undefeated power conference teams is quite rare. Worse case senario, if we finish unbeaten, we're in the 100th Rose Bowl.

Ohio State is sitting really pretty. You guys don't even need to hope for upsets, as all of the other major unbeatens face big tests. E.g., FSU and Clemson play so one of them gets knocked off, and then even the winner has at least one other very tough game (FSU - Florida, Clemson - South Carolina). Alabama has LSU and then likely Georgia in the SEC title game. Oregon and Stanford play.

In contrast, Ohio State's schedule is danger-free until Michigan, and let's face it, Michigan isn't much of a challenge either.

Of all the major unbeatens, Ohio State has the best chance of finishing that way. Your odds of making the title game are very good.

actually you are off on the date of the start date. 1st BCS ratings come out this year Oct 20 not Oct 13. A week later due to the extra week in this season.

(10-07-2013 10:09 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-07-2013 08:50 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Honestly, I'd be Ok if we got left out behind an undefeated Alabama and an undefeated Oregon.

What about an unbeaten ACC team, like Clemson or FSU?

There might be a little whining, but not a lot. FSU looks really darn good.

a team that Ohio St better watch out for quite frankly is Oklahoma. If they go 12-0, and especially if Notre Dame finishes strong- 9-3- Oklahoma will almost for sure be ahead of Ohio St in the computers. If Oklahoma is impressive in some of those games, and Ohio St scuffles with Michigan and a few of the other Big Ten teams- it could get interesting if Oregon, Stanford, Clemson, and FSU all have lost.

Northwestern and/or Michigan could be in the top ten by seasons end.
Wins over those programs just might keep the Buckeyes BCS ranking in shot of the qualifying two spots.

Then again, the way the polls are trending, both the Wolverines and Wild Cats could go into the last game of the season with just one loss each and not be ranked in the top ten.

(10-07-2013 03:44 PM)AngryAphid Wrote:  Northwestern and/or Michigan could be in the top ten by seasons end.
Wins over those programs just might keep the Buckeyes BCS ranking in shot of the qualifying two spots.

Then again, the way the polls are trending, both the Wolverines and Wild Cats could go into the last game of the season with just one loss each and not be ranked in the top ten.

the problem is if that happens-
the loser of the Michigan/Northwestern game will have 2 losses. Also, if Michigan wins the division, and loses to Ohio St again, that's a 2nd loss. I don't see a 2 loss Michigan/Northwestern being anywhere close to top 10.

(10-07-2013 04:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-07-2013 03:44 PM)AngryAphid Wrote:  Northwestern and/or Michigan could be in the top ten by seasons end.
Wins over those programs just might keep the Buckeyes BCS ranking in shot of the qualifying two spots.

Then again, the way the polls are trending, both the Wolverines and Wild Cats could go into the last game of the season with just one loss each and not be ranked in the top ten.

the problem is if that happens-
the loser of the Michigan/Northwestern game will have 2 losses. Also, if Michigan wins the division, and loses to Ohio St again, that's a 2nd loss. I don't see a 2 loss Michigan/Northwestern being anywhere close to top 10.

Yep, that's how this season is playing out… a two loss Georgia can be in the top ten, a two loss Northwestern can't.

It's all about strength of schedules.

Not really that big of a deal. I am more worried about whether or not Ohio State ends up with a Top 4 ranking this year if they go undefeated or have one loss. No Tourney this year but it will be a guide as to how things could go next year.

Who cares about this year? It is all about next year, the Tournament Commission and what is going to happen in January.

probably best tO$U doesn't go to the national title game...Alabama would humiliate them nationally and it would be another buckeye team getting bombed on national tv 'when it counts'.

I don't think unless something strange happens, Ohio St has a shot of being in the top 4 if they have 1 loss.

Ohio State has a tough road breaking into the national championship conversation because of the perceived weakness of the B1G this year and last. But as the season goes on, their impressive winning streak is going to get more and more attention and help them get more mindshare, IMO.

(10-07-2013 10:26 AM)stever20 Wrote:  a team that Ohio St better watch out for quite frankly is Oklahoma. If they go 12-0, and especially if Notre Dame finishes strong- 9-3- Oklahoma will almost for sure be ahead of Ohio St in the computers. If Oklahoma is impressive in some of those games, and Ohio St scuffles with Michigan and a few of the other Big Ten teams- it could get interesting if Oregon, Stanford, Clemson, and FSU all have lost.

Last year I would have agreed. I don't think the perception of the Big 12 is strong enough this year though for Oklahoma to have a good shot at passing the Buckeyes. It's possible if Baylor and Texas Tech really keep showing up and if Ohio State looks poor even with wins, but I'd bet on the voters helping Ohio State over Oklahoma this year (but not over ACC or PAC-12 teams).

(10-07-2013 11:53 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  

(10-07-2013 10:26 AM)stever20 Wrote:  a team that Ohio St better watch out for quite frankly is Oklahoma. If they go 12-0, and especially if Notre Dame finishes strong- 9-3- Oklahoma will almost for sure be ahead of Ohio St in the computers. If Oklahoma is impressive in some of those games, and Ohio St scuffles with Michigan and a few of the other Big Ten teams- it could get interesting if Oregon, Stanford, Clemson, and FSU all have lost.

Last year I would have agreed. I don't think the perception of the Big 12 is strong enough this year though for Oklahoma to have a good shot at passing the Buckeyes. It's possible if Baylor and Texas Tech really keep showing up and if Ohio State looks poor even with wins, but I'd bet on the voters helping Ohio State over Oklahoma this year (but not over ACC or PAC-12 teams).

I would think that they would need to be ahead of Oklahoma quite a bit in the polls. I mean, right now, Oklahoma's avg cpu rating is 5.67 and Ohio St is 8.33. And- Ohio St has had their meat of the schedule. Oklahoma hasn't. Then add in the fact that with 9 conference games, the big 12 cpu ranks get inflated to some degree.

Ohio St's remaining schedule:
Iowa, Penn St, Purdue, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan
1 team left with less than 2 losses(Michigan)
Oklahoma's remaining schedule:
Texas, Kansas, Texas Tech, Baylor, Iowa St, Kan St, Okla St
2 undefeated and 1 1 loss team.

Oklahoma is ahead now, and that gap is just going to get wider and wider. Plus as undefeated teams fall, they'll wedge between- I mean could easily see Oklahoma ahead of Stanford, Oregon, Clemson and FSU in the computers- but Ohio St with their bad schedule not- even with 0 losses.

(10-07-2013 10:30 PM)TomThumb Wrote:  Ohio State has a tough road breaking into the national championship conversation because of the perceived weakness of the B1G this year and last. But as the season goes on, their impressive winning streak is going to get more and more attention and help them get more mindshare, IMO.

given their crap schedule and the name on the front of their uniform i think osu has as good a shot as anybody to make it to the national title game...I also think they will get destroyed in said title game but stranger things have happened.