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RE: Serious Questions in comparing FAU and FIU development
Let's count the number of ways by which you are wrong....The Daily Caller is in fact a national "ONLINE" publication as the original poster claims.

Quote:Florida Atlantic University is quite obviously the worst place in the United States to attend college.

Why was it made? Because of a crazy professor.

FAU, Americas' WORST University

I really would suggest that any fau fan who thinks this is the time to pile on, think again and look in the mirror. As I've said before, I'm not about to take lessons from FAU on Culture or how to run a University. First, find someone to actually run that University.

(09-20-2013 08:08 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 09:44 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FIU needs a new AD and to give their football coach some time (to see whether he works out or not). Their basketball hire seemed like a good one, all things considered. It's not like Pelini is doing anything at FAU, either (4-11 so far). FAU's attendance isn't good. FAU's basketball had a flash with Jarvis before falling back to blah sort of like what FIU had with Pitino. FAU was called "America's Worst University" in a national online publication earlier this year.

Let's keep these things in perspective. Some goofy student area at a football stadium doesn't a great up-and-coming AD make.

BS. That crack on being America's worst university was some blogger. It wasn't a national publication. Stop making crap up. And the comment was made in jest based on slamming the program because of the sponsor they were going to have for the football stadium. FIU isn't any better and I know plenty that are worse than both.
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Aside from losing, I think the biggest thing holding FIU back is their administration.

Their AD seems to be a poor decision maker.
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I completely agree. FirePeteGarcia.com

(09-20-2013 08:59 AM)Niner National Wrote:  Aside from losing, I think the biggest thing holding FIU back is their administration.

Their AD seems to be a poor decision maker.
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Not to get into a pissing match with you FPF, because I know we have our differences, but I dont recall any ex-player's on a FAU team murdering someone on the team (which was a huge tragedy) or firing off a handgun on campus. Nor do I recall my team engaging in a free for all fight with a program (Miami).We've had some trouble makers with drugs and other small issues but every school has those.

FAU has made some mistakes for sure. Geo Group was one. The "jesus stomp" turned out to be the student at fault and not the teacher. The gentleman who makes all those crazy blog posts does so on his personal blog, not an FAU one. However he has tenure and can't lose his job because of that, which I personally cant stand.

I think that FAU has made a change in direction that will help our fanbase and future growth. I truly hope that FIU does too because you need it. Being the 4th largest univeristy in the country doesnt mean squat to an athletics program if the majority dont care about it. Were both young and these are growing pains.

I will always think FAU is better then FIU, and you will think the opposite. Thats the nature of a rivalry fanbase.
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(09-20-2013 08:44 AM)FIU Panther Fan Wrote:  Let's count the number of ways by which you are wrong....The Daily Caller is in fact a national "ONLINE" publication as the original poster claims.

Quote:Florida Atlantic University is quite obviously the worst place in the United States to attend college.

Why was it made? Because of a crazy professor.

FAU, Americas' WORST University

I really would suggest that any fau fan who thinks this is the time to pile on, think again and look in the mirror. As I've said before, I'm not about to take lessons from FAU on Culture or how to run a University. First, find someone to actually run that University.

(09-20-2013 08:08 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 09:44 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FIU needs a new AD and to give their football coach some time (to see whether he works out or not). Their basketball hire seemed like a good one, all things considered. It's not like Pelini is doing anything at FAU, either (4-11 so far). FAU's attendance isn't good. FAU's basketball had a flash with Jarvis before falling back to blah sort of like what FIU had with Pitino. FAU was called "America's Worst University" in a national online publication earlier this year.

Let's keep these things in perspective. Some goofy student area at a football stadium doesn't a great up-and-coming AD make.

BS. That crack on being America's worst university was some blogger. It wasn't a national publication. Stop making crap up. And the comment was made in jest based on slamming the program because of the sponsor they were going to have for the football stadium. FIU isn't any better and I know plenty that are worse than both.

Um this was the first line...

"Florida Atlantic University is quite obviously the worst place in the United States to attend college."

Yeah that sounds really in depth and like there is some basis behind the statement!

BS.

It's a crap article with no support whatsoever and only moron fans would take it as anything serious. There is absolutely nothing reputable about the source and there is no backing at all for the statement.

I can post something online too saying FIU is the worst university. It would mean as much as this article does. Idiots acting like this is Time Magazine or the Princeton Review are hilarious.
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Go for it. I will gladly make this thread the FAU shame thread. I suggest we don't go that route because it's never fun for you and we know where the thread ends up.

(09-20-2013 09:05 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  Not to get into a pissing match with you FPF, because I know we have our differences, but I dont recall any ex-player's on a FAU team murdering someone on the team (which was a huge tragedy) or firing off a handgun on campus. Nor do I recall my team engaging in a free for all fight with a program (Miami).We've had some trouble makers with drugs and other small issues but every school has those.

FAU has made some mistakes for sure. Geo Group was one. The "jesus stomp" turned out to be the student at fault and not the teacher. The gentleman who makes all those crazy blog posts does so on his personal blog, not an FAU one. However he has tenure and can't lose his job because of that, which I personally cant stand.

I think that FAU has made a change in direction that will help our fanbase and future growth. I truly hope that FIU does too because you need it. Being the 4th largest univeristy in the country doesnt mean squat to an athletics program if the majority dont care about it. Were both young and these are growing pains.

I will always think FAU is better then FIU, and you will think the opposite. Thats the nature of a rivalry fanbase.
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(09-20-2013 08:08 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 09:44 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FIU needs a new AD and to give their football coach some time (to see whether he works out or not). Their basketball hire seemed like a good one, all things considered. It's not like Pelini is doing anything at FAU, either (4-11 so far). FAU's attendance isn't good. FAU's basketball had a flash with Jarvis before falling back to blah sort of like what FIU had with Pitino. FAU was called "America's Worst University" in a national online publication earlier this year.

Let's keep these things in perspective. Some goofy student area at a football stadium doesn't a great up-and-coming AD make.

BS. That crack on being America's worst university was some blogger. It wasn't a national publication. Stop making crap up. And the comment was made in jest based on slamming the program because of the sponsor they were going to have for the football stadium. FIU isn't any better and I know plenty that are worse than both.

It was a front page Yahoo new story even if it wasn't a Yahoo original. The comment was made in regards to your "Stomp on Jesus" professor, your "Sandy Hook was a government conspiracy" professor, your school accepting millions from a company that is known to have committed human rights violations and possibly other crap.

FIU actually does rank better than FAU in a lot of academic areas and key measures. Both are on the lower end of national universities, however.
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Bottom line is Conf USA needs both FIU and FAU to field good football and Bball programs to help our conf. UCF did dont see any reason why these two cant.
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(09-20-2013 10:24 AM)goherd17 Wrote:  Bottom line is Conf USA needs both FIU and FAU to field good football and Bball programs to help our conf. UCF did dont see any reason why these two cant.

I think we're fine if just one is good.

Both need to make huge upgrades to their basketball arenas though to have any hope of ever being truly competitive. They're not going to consistently attract the kind of talent that will make them competitive in the arenas they currently have.
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We desperately need a convention center/arena. I agree that the current facility is just lacking and there's really nothing you can do to it to make it better architecturally.
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(09-20-2013 10:32 AM)FIU Panther Fan Wrote:  We desperately need a convention center/arena. I agree that the current facility is just lacking and there's really nothing you can do to it to make it better architecturally.

And sadly, yours looks like a palace compared to FAU's.

It doesn't even have to be big. Even something like Troy just built would be acceptable IMO.

It's only like 5,000 seats, but at least it looks like a collegiate arena inside.
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(09-20-2013 10:22 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  
(09-20-2013 08:08 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 09:44 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FIU needs a new AD and to give their football coach some time (to see whether he works out or not). Their basketball hire seemed like a good one, all things considered. It's not like Pelini is doing anything at FAU, either (4-11 so far). FAU's attendance isn't good. FAU's basketball had a flash with Jarvis before falling back to blah sort of like what FIU had with Pitino. FAU was called "America's Worst University" in a national online publication earlier this year.

Let's keep these things in perspective. Some goofy student area at a football stadium doesn't a great up-and-coming AD make.

BS. That crack on being America's worst university was some blogger. It wasn't a national publication. Stop making crap up. And the comment was made in jest based on slamming the program because of the sponsor they were going to have for the football stadium. FIU isn't any better and I know plenty that are worse than both.

It was a front page Yahoo new story even if it wasn't a Yahoo original. The comment was made in regards to your "Stomp on Jesus" professor, your "Sandy Hook was a government conspiracy" professor, your school accepting millions from a company that is known to have committed human rights violations and possibly other crap.

FIU actually does rank better than FAU in a lot of academic areas and key measures. Both are on the lower end of national universities, however.

Are you really stupid enough to accept that article as legitimate based on that opening line and no support whatsoever?

One rogue professor doesn't make an entire university. And one professor's radical views makes the university the worst in America? Sure makes a ton of sense.... if you ride the short bus

I think anyone with brain cells realizes that the comment has no merit or support. And I really doubt most remember it anyways. What pisses me off is that "media" has become so poor in this country that crap like this is allowed to be put in a story. The "sources" and "opinion" stuff has taken over in the media and that is sad.

I can post an article online with no support too saying FIU is the worst university in America. And anyone in the world could read it as well. It would be about as legitimate as that slush piece.
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I would like for you to post that article and for that article to be then put up on Yahoo.com. I mean, it's that easy right? Thanks in advance.

(09-20-2013 10:37 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(09-20-2013 10:22 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  
(09-20-2013 08:08 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 09:44 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FIU needs a new AD and to give their football coach some time (to see whether he works out or not). Their basketball hire seemed like a good one, all things considered. It's not like Pelini is doing anything at FAU, either (4-11 so far). FAU's attendance isn't good. FAU's basketball had a flash with Jarvis before falling back to blah sort of like what FIU had with Pitino. FAU was called "America's Worst University" in a national online publication earlier this year.

Let's keep these things in perspective. Some goofy student area at a football stadium doesn't a great up-and-coming AD make.

BS. That crack on being America's worst university was some blogger. It wasn't a national publication. Stop making crap up. And the comment was made in jest based on slamming the program because of the sponsor they were going to have for the football stadium. FIU isn't any better and I know plenty that are worse than both.

It was a front page Yahoo new story even if it wasn't a Yahoo original. The comment was made in regards to your "Stomp on Jesus" professor, your "Sandy Hook was a government conspiracy" professor, your school accepting millions from a company that is known to have committed human rights violations and possibly other crap.

FIU actually does rank better than FAU in a lot of academic areas and key measures. Both are on the lower end of national universities, however.

Are you really stupid enough to accept that article as legitimate based on that opening line and no support whatsoever?

One rogue professor doesn't make an entire university. And one professor's radical views makes the university the worst in America? Sure makes a ton of sense.... if you ride the short bus

I think anyone with brain cells realizes that the comment has no merit or support. And I really doubt most remember it anyways. What pisses me off is that "media" has become so poor in this country that crap like this is allowed to be put in a story. The "sources" and "opinion" stuff has taken over in the media and that is sad.

I can post an article online with no support too saying FIU is the worst university in America. And anyone in the world could read it as well. It would be about as legitimate as that slush piece.
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I'm going to have to disagree. While the outside of our Arena is nicer, the inside of FAU's arena is much nicer. They eliminated all bleachers for chairbacks, which I think we should do as well. In doing so however, they cost themselves a lot of capacity, I think they are at 2,500 at this point where our "Arena" is at 5,000.

(09-20-2013 10:36 AM)Niner National Wrote:  
(09-20-2013 10:32 AM)FIU Panther Fan Wrote:  We desperately need a convention center/arena. I agree that the current facility is just lacking and there's really nothing you can do to it to make it better architecturally.

And sadly, yours looks like a palace compared to FAU's.

It doesn't even have to be big. Even something like Troy just built would be acceptable IMO.

It's only like 5,000 seats, but at least it looks like a collegiate arena inside.
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I could put it on Bleacher Report if I wanted to. The fact that junk articles like this can be posted on places like Yahoo shows how the media in this country has gone downhill.

Answer my question.

Does one professor's radical viewpoints posted on his personal blog make a university the worst in America? And what support did this writer give to make this anything but a throwaway line is a slush piece posted on the web?

The fact is that an unbiased person can see that this article is a piece of garbage. If a few idiots from FIU want to call it legitimate, it isn't like that is really going to hurt us at all though.

EDIT: And when did Yahoo become a legitimate/lockdown news website for each and every article? There are a ton of crap articles that Google and Yahoo pick up. Being available to all around the world doesn't make them legit. TMZ is available online to all as well.
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Go for it. I just want to see it. In the meantime, here is the follow up to the original article....

Quote:Florida Atlantic University continues to assert its undisputed dominance as quite obviously the worst place in the United States to attend college.

FAU Still the Worst

owlfamily, I think it's time for your MO move to the trashbin.

(09-20-2013 10:52 AM)Ragu Wrote:  I could put it on Bleacher Report if I wanted to. The fact that junk articles like this can be posted on places like Yahoo shows how the media in this country has gone downhill.

Answer my question.

Does one professor's radical viewpoints posted on his personal blog make a university the worst in America? And what support did this writer give to make this anything but a throwaway line is a slush piece posted on the web?

The fact is that an unbiased person can see that this article is a piece of garbage. If a few idiots from FIU want to call it legitimate, it isn't like that is really going to hurt us at all though.

EDIT: And when did Yahoo become a legitimate/lockdown news website for each and every article? There are a ton of crap articles that Google and Yahoo pick up. Being available to all around the world doesn't make them legit. TMZ is available online to all as well.
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(09-20-2013 10:59 AM)FIU Panther Fan Wrote:  Go for it. I just want to see it. In the meantime, here is the follow up to the original article....

Quote:Florida Atlantic University continues to assert its undisputed dominance as quite obviously the worst place in the United States to attend college.

FAU Still the Worst

owlfamily, I think it's time for your MO move to the trashbin.

(09-20-2013 10:52 AM)Ragu Wrote:  I could put it on Bleacher Report if I wanted to. The fact that junk articles like this can be posted on places like Yahoo shows how the media in this country has gone downhill.

Answer my question.

Does one professor's radical viewpoints posted on his personal blog make a university the worst in America? And what support did this writer give to make this anything but a throwaway line is a slush piece posted on the web?

The fact is that an unbiased person can see that this article is a piece of garbage. If a few idiots from FIU want to call it legitimate, it isn't like that is really going to hurt us at all though.

EDIT: And when did Yahoo become a legitimate/lockdown news website for each and every article? There are a ton of crap articles that Google and Yahoo pick up. Being available to all around the world doesn't make them legit. TMZ is available online to all as well.

Well how can you argue with an article that has the lines "continues to assert its dominance" and "quite obviously" in the same sentence.

Seems like some really good reporting there with some legitimate support as well.

Clearly you guys don't have very high standards for journalistic integrity.

I mean clearly a site that says it is a news AND OPINION website is legitimate. And its founder Tucker Carlson is a real genius as well :)

As for me posting an anti FIU article, there is a difference between "can" and "will". Doing that would make me no better than idiots posting slant pieces with no support or legitimacy as they guys have.
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Not that our football program isn't terrible right now, but I am definitely concerned about the development of FIU's programs outside of baseball. Meaning basketball and football (nothing else matters).
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I am VERY concerned about football. I think the basketball program will be fine under Coach Evans. Coach Pitino had some improvements on the court and off in his first year and I think Coach Evens will continue that and get us out of the APR mess. Football is another story, not only are we bad, but I think we are about to get into an APR mess there with all the players leaving/quitting. Go F I U!

(09-20-2013 11:12 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Not that our football program isn't terrible right now, but I am definitely concerned about the development of FIU's programs outside of baseball. Meaning basketball and football (nothing else matters).
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