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Tweets about the gathering today. Read from bottom up.

Seems like they are escorting Bonner around like she is the Queen of England.

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Melissa Brown ‏@itsmelissabrown 5m
Security blocked journos from http://al.com , TNews, NYT, student pubs from waiting in President's Office lobby.

Campus spox couldn't confirm if private security was hired for today's events c

Journalists being told Bonner's schedule is full today, we're not being allowed to go in the office.

Wolf says students plan to stay at Rose until 11 am. Bonner walks inside. pic.twitter.com/eYTXB3RwIi

Wolf: We cannot end this discussion. We must move forward and encourage one another to be brave.

Sophomore Yardena Wolf, member of AOPi, speaking to crowd pic.twitter.com/47mK2mNNDA

Private security appears to be following Bonner through crowd.

Judy bonner comes out of Rose Admin building to greet students at rally originally intended to pressure admin to act pic.twitter.com/x6JrvSTa3z

@JackpotEngland students are trickling in, more to join at Rose they say.

Organizer speaking to crowd. pic.twitter.com/sIAj6nCu3w

Crowd still gathering at the bottom of Gorgas steps for student/faculty march at University of Alabama this am pic.twitter.com/FLkvr3tCX7

@MadisonU crowd still gathering.

(09-18-2013 08:10 AM)the_blazerman Wrote:  I suspect very strongly (as do a lot of others) that Guy Bailey was dismissed as president of UA because he wanted to integrate the greek system.

Who do you suppose arranged the dismissal? (Robert Witt and the "core" members of the BOT)

Bonner was selected as the next president to right (or white) the ship.

She has had several months to continue Bailey's plan for integration but had not spoken out on it until the other day. The reason? I don't believe she wanted it done, but is being forced to do it because of outside pressure now.

She was hired to be Robert Witt's rubber stamp in Tuscaloosa.

Would somebody please watch the back door ? The BOT could sell off the rights to the Black Warrior River and the ground 6" under and below two satellite campuses with all this going on out front.

(09-18-2013 08:07 AM)backyardblazer Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:43 AM)dfarr Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:25 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Why didn't the BOT step in and put an end to segregation of sororities years ago? Hmm?

What were they supposed to do? Say "you guys give the 1 black girl who rushes every 10 years a bid or else?"

Also, should they pass a rule forcing them to give bids to the bigger girls? I guarantee you that there were more fat girls who didn't get bids than there were black girls who didn't get bids.

It' more than "1 black girl every 10 years" but the numbers are relatively small. In the three years my daughters went through rush, there were less than five blacks going out for rush each time. There were around 1750 girls in these rushes. And 99% of the time, the black girls dropped out of rush before it was through. Some because they didn't like rush and some because they knew they would be dropped.

And good point about the "large girl" bids, as there many more girls shunned for being fat, ur-attractive, not enough charm, etc.

I think the whole Greek system is a joke and needs to go the way of the zeppelin, but I ain't holding my breath.

The university "Greek system" at AU & UA (and perhaps AL State & AL A&M as well) is the training ground for the Alabama politicians of tomorrow. I would be willing to wager that nearly all - if not ALL - of our state's elected leaders in any of the three branches, for many decades, have been veterans of "Greek wars" on their respective campuses. They are not likely to lead a movement to fundamentally change the system that has served so well to put them in the position of power they hold today.

"Token changes" may be made, but will they still be there when the "heat" has dissipated?

(09-18-2013 07:43 AM)dfarr Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:25 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Why didn't the BOT step in and put an end to segregation of sororities years ago? Hmm?

What were they supposed to do? Say "you guys give the 1 black girl who rushes every 10 years a bid or else?"

Also, should they pass a rule forcing them to give bids to the bigger girls? I guarantee you that there were more fat girls who didn't get bids than there were black girls who didn't get bids.

1. If it were only one 1 black girl every 10 years she still shouldn't be denied based on the color of her skin.

2. You do realize that it was the sororities that wanted this segregation to end.

3. You statements seem to have racist overtones. If you want a private club then disassociate with any public institution and don't accept public funds. You seem to want to divert the attention from the issue at hand.

4. What is wrong with doing the right thing?

(09-18-2013 08:10 AM)the_blazerman Wrote:  I suspect very strongly (as do a lot of others) that Guy Bailey was dismissed as president of UA because he wanted to integrate the greek system.

Who do you suppose arranged the dismissal? (Robert Witt and the "core" members of the BOT)

Bonner was selected as the next president to right (or white) the ship.

She has had several months to continue Bailey's plan for integration but had not spoken out on it until the other day. The reason? I don't believe she wanted it done, but is being forced to do it because of outside pressure now.

Guy Bailey left the position to spend time with his wife during her final days. His wife had cancer and she died about a month ago.

She sure was a "team" player to fake an illness and die, just to cover up "the real story."

Let me guess, Billy in math class gave you the "straight poop", right?

(09-18-2013 11:31 AM)backyardblazer Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 08:10 AM)the_blazerman Wrote:  I suspect very strongly (as do a lot of others) that Guy Bailey was dismissed as president of UA because he wanted to integrate the greek system.

Who do you suppose arranged the dismissal? (Robert Witt and the "core" members of the BOT)

Bonner was selected as the next president to right (or white) the ship.

She has had several months to continue Bailey's plan for integration but had not spoken out on it until the other day. The reason? I don't believe she wanted it done, but is being forced to do it because of outside pressure now.

Guy Bailey left the position to spend time with his wife during her final days. His wife had cancer and she died about a month ago.

She sure was a "team" player to fake an illness and die, just to cover up "the real story."

Let me guess, Billy in math class gave you the "straight poop", right?

I guess you missed him being considered for the New Mexico State job.

http://cw.ua.edu/2013/05/06/former-presi...president/

(09-18-2013 11:31 AM)backyardblazer Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 08:10 AM)the_blazerman Wrote:  I suspect very strongly (as do a lot of others) that Guy Bailey was dismissed as president of UA because he wanted to integrate the greek system.

Who do you suppose arranged the dismissal? (Robert Witt and the "core" members of the BOT)

Bonner was selected as the next president to right (or white) the ship.

She has had several months to continue Bailey's plan for integration but had not spoken out on it until the other day. The reason? I don't believe she wanted it done, but is being forced to do it because of outside pressure now.

Guy Bailey left the position to spend time with his wife during her final days. His wife had cancer and she died about a month ago.

She sure was a "team" player to fake an illness and die, just to cover up "the real story."

Let me guess, Billy in math class gave you the "straight poop", right?

Is your last name St. John?

If you don't think Bailey leaving was because of the Greek thing then you are delusional. Why would he have been interviewing for another president job right after that?

Bailey's departure fit the same pattern as Ann Reynolds and Carol Garrison's. He did something that got the BoT angry with him and shortly thereafter he was gone.

No, we were not in the room when things were negotiated. We were not there when the OCS was shot down either.

How many politicians have done something that got them forced from office and used the excuse that they were leaving "to spend more time with their family"? His wife had cancer when he took the UA job. She had it when he applied at NM after he got sacked.


Besides, Billy don't know diddly. You want the good poop you have to talk to Chris in math class.

(09-18-2013 08:07 AM)backyardblazer Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:43 AM)dfarr Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:25 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Why didn't the BOT step in and put an end to segregation of sororities years ago? Hmm?

What were they supposed to do? Say "you guys give the 1 black girl who rushes every 10 years a bid or else?"

Also, should they pass a rule forcing them to give bids to the bigger girls? I guarantee you that there were more fat girls who didn't get bids than there were black girls who didn't get bids.

It' more than "1 black girl every 10 years" but the numbers are relatively small. In the three years my daughters went through rush, there were less than five blacks going out for rush each time. There were around 1750 girls in these rushes. And 99% of the time, the black girls dropped out of rush before it was through. Some because they didn't like rush and some because they knew they would be dropped.

And good point about the "large girl" bids, as there many more girls shunned for being fat, ur-attractive, not enough charm, etc.

I think the whole Greek system is a joke and needs to go the way of the zeppelin, but I ain't holding my breath.

There is a hierarchy of "Greek" organizations with those who are most desirable (looks, family wealth / social &/or political position, intellect (on academic scholarship), great personality, legacy connections, etc.) and those who are less desirable ("good personality" but not "pretty", overweight, poor family (in school on grants or loans, etc.). In the 1960s, some chapters also made an effort to dictate which chapters their members could date with to protect the group's social reputation. Does this still go on?

Any quick look at a school's annual will show which groups are which.

So let's see. We've stated we know the "real" reason Bailey got canned several times in this thread. We have no way of knowing this, but we heard or think this.......so we'll re-state it until it's the gospel. Gotcha.

What was that magic number again MB?

And sorry for my failure to give Chris in math class his due. He is the man.

Yeah, just like the "real" reason the UAB stadium got canned was because the cardiology department is in the shitter.

If you can't read between the lines and just believe whatever comes out on a press release, you are going to have a real hard time living in this state

(09-18-2013 09:59 AM)UAB?IAB Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:43 AM)dfarr Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:25 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Why didn't the BOT step in and put an end to segregation of sororities years ago? Hmm?

What were they supposed to do? Say "you guys give the 1 black girl who rushes every 10 years a bid or else?"

Also, should they pass a rule forcing them to give bids to the bigger girls? I guarantee you that there were more fat girls who didn't get bids than there were black girls who didn't get bids.

1. If it were only one 1 black girl every 10 years she still shouldn't be denied based on the color of her skin.

2. You do realize that it was the sororities that wanted this segregation to end.

3. You statements seem to have racist overtones. If you want a private club then disassociate with any public institution and don't accept public funds. You seem to want to divert the attention from the issue at hand.

4. What is wrong with doing the right thing?

I agree that she shouldn't be denied based on her skin color. Never said she should have been. From all accounts she was an ideal candidate. If the actives wanted to give her a bid, they should have given her a bid and told the alumni to shove it. Our alumni had zero say in our bidding process. I've never understood why sororities let people who aren't in college have such control.

My whole issue is the possibility of there being a drastic over correction where essentially the chapters aren't allowed to vote on members without university approval.

Do Greeks actually get public funds? I know we didn't get jack from UAB back in my day.

(09-18-2013 01:12 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Yeah, just like the "real" reason the UAB stadium got canned was because the cardiology department is in the shitter.

If you can't read between the lines and just believe whatever comes out on a press release, you are going to have a real hard time living in this state

Reading between the lines often reveals blank spaces. Both on the page and in the content of the message to the reader.

If you are waiting for a "Bailey Was Fired Because He Wanted to Integrate Greek Systems" article, it isn't coming.

(09-18-2013 07:23 PM)dfarr Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 09:59 AM)UAB?IAB Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:43 AM)dfarr Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:25 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Why didn't the BOT step in and put an end to segregation of sororities years ago? Hmm?

What were they supposed to do? Say "you guys give the 1 black girl who rushes every 10 years a bid or else?"

Also, should they pass a rule forcing them to give bids to the bigger girls? I guarantee you that there were more fat girls who didn't get bids than there were black girls who didn't get bids.

1. If it were only one 1 black girl every 10 years she still shouldn't be denied based on the color of her skin.

2. You do realize that it was the sororities that wanted this segregation to end.

3. You statements seem to have racist overtones. If you want a private club then disassociate with any public institution and don't accept public funds. You seem to want to divert the attention from the issue at hand.

4. What is wrong with doing the right thing?

I agree that she shouldn't be denied based on her skin color. Never said she should have been. From all accounts she was an ideal candidate. If the actives wanted to give her a bid, they should have given her a bid and told the alumni to shove it. Our alumni had zero say in our bidding process. I've never understood why sororities let people who aren't in college have such control.

My whole issue is the possibility of there being a drastic over correction where essentially the chapters aren't allowed to vote on members without university approval.

Do Greeks actually get public funds? I know we didn't get jack from UAB back in my day.

Yeah, I mean, those items on the Board of Trustees agenda last week about building new houses for them needed Board approval because no UA money is being spent.

Check out the cartoon in the C&W.

http://cw.ua.edu/2013/09/18/sept-18-editorial-cartoon/

and the one from last week

http://cw.ua.edu/2013/09/11/sept-11-editorial-cartoon/

(09-18-2013 10:25 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  Check out the cartoon in the C&W.

http://cw.ua.edu/2013/09/18/sept-18-editorial-cartoon/

and the one from last week

http://cw.ua.edu/2013/09/11/sept-11-editorial-cartoon/

Very creative

Paul Bryant Jr.'s ludicrous statement, regarding the subject.

http://uasystem.ua.edu/wp-content/upload...nt-Jr..pdf

Business as usual.

Why is the word entire underlined?