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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
and lose their jobs?
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
(09-12-2013 11:56 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  
(09-12-2013 08:36 PM)legalblazer Wrote:  [OCS mention in every thread]
How many of these institutions have houses paid for using public bonds? Maybe that's the real reason the OCS got canned - we were going to let in minorities.
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You kid.. but there is only so much money that the system can borrow at one time.

Yep. That waterfall in the football team's locker room has top (bleeping) priority & is good for UA, the city of tuscaloosa and the state of alabama.
09-16-2013 02:54 PM
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
(09-13-2013 05:51 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  "Alabama is now No. 1 in the country and it is hypocritical to cheer the boys on on Saturday afternoon and lock the sisters out of the sorority on Monday,"

Actually a darn good statement by the Rev.

http://blog.al.com/tuscaloosa/2013/09/th...is_hy.html

Spot on! But the sad part is that people will back UA just because of their feelings towards Jesse Jackson.
09-16-2013 04:02 PM
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
Jesse Jackson spoke the truth on this topic. Unfortunately many UAT people won't see it that way. Their hatred will leave them blind.

Some UAT folks say it's now time to do the right thing. Now? Where in the heck have they been these past fifty years?

Oh, I know. They have been idolizing UAT football and everything associated with it, and have been blind to societal progress.
09-16-2013 04:12 PM
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
(09-16-2013 04:12 PM)KevMo4UAB Wrote:  Jesse Jackson spoke the truth on this topic. Unfortunately many UAT people won't see it that way. Their hatred will leave them blind.

Some UAT folks say it's now time to do the right thing. Now? Where in the heck have they been these past fifty years?

Oh, I know. They have been idolizing UAT football and everything associated with it, and have been blind to societal progress.

The greek system accounts for a small (but very powerful) percentage of the campus. In my opinion, the vast majority of the campus does not believe in a like manner. The fact that some of the girls at these "old row" sororities were trying to change, is a step in the right direction. (The oldest and most influential sorority tried to make this change several years ago, with the same results. There have been many attempts to open the greek system that failed, but there were just no news reports, so the issue quietly went away.)

Now if these greek chapters can wrestle control of their organizations from a few influential alums (who still live in the past) big strides will be made. This story was the first step in getting that control.

And Jesse Jackson is a pimp, who would support child molestation if it made him a few bucks. He is a hypocrite, who as lost even the faintest shred of credibility. He speaks for no one but himself and his support of this issue is like throwing cinder blocks to a drowning man. It just won't help. IMHO
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
The one thing that will change it, and that I don't think the powers that be thought about while running down this particular gravy train, is that 60% of students at UA are out-of-state. If that trend continues, and it has to or UA will go broke, eventually "The Machine" will cease to exist.
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
(09-16-2013 05:16 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The one thing that will change it, and that I don't think the powers that be thought about while running down this particular gravy train, is that 60% of students at UA are out-of-state. If that trend continues, and it has to or UA will go broke, eventually "The Machine" will cease to exist.

Excellent point. 04-cheers
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
(09-16-2013 05:03 PM)backyardblazer Wrote:  Jesse Jackson is a pimp, who would support child molestation if it made him a few bucks. He is a hypocrite, who as lost even the faintest shred of credibility.

Yeah, but you know what they say about broken clocks.
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
(09-16-2013 08:34 PM)Smaug Wrote:  
(09-16-2013 05:03 PM)backyardblazer Wrote:  Jesse Jackson is a pimp, who would support child molestation if it made him a few bucks. He is a hypocrite, who as lost even the faintest shred of credibility.

Yeah, but you know what they say about broken clocks.

Great. So you agree. 04-rock
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
The story in The Crimson White is some of the best college investigative journalism I've ever read. It will likely win numerous story of the year awards in various journalism organizations. That's not just my opinion; pretty much every college adviser in the country has weighed in on this story on the College Media Advisers listserv over the past week. It's already being used as an example of what other colleges should be doing to expose injustices on their campuses.

It also has drawn the attention of numerous national media groups, including The New York Times, which sent a reporting crew to the Tuscaloosa campus, something it rarely does these days. I imagine there will be continued scrutiny, particularly so long as the campus leadership remains mostly silent and speaks only in vague generalities and holds so-called meetings about this behind closed doors.

I wish my students were as gutsy as these in their reporting.
09-17-2013 10:27 AM
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
The bluebloods will circle the golf carts. Just watch.
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
Although it will never be mentioned publicly, Guy Bailey was let go because he wanted to integrate the sororities and fraternities.

Now, Bonner decides to do it as a result of outside pressure.

So does Bonner believe the same thing that Bailey believes or does she believe differently?

If it is the same, then how come she didn't decide to continue Bailey's plan for integration?

There will be no easy way for the university to squirm out of this.

They are increasing the number of people that can be in each sorority and giving the sororities instructions to add members as they seem fit, keeping in mind the need to diversify.

This is quite ridiculous in the short term because it makes the sororities try and recruit based off of a need to diversify.

I don't believe the story is going away, even though Bonner wishes it would.
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
Although it will never be mentioned publicly, Guy Bailey was let go because he wanted to integrate the sororities and fraternities.

So all that stuff about spending time with his terminally ill wife (who recently died) was just a cover for the real story, right?
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
Of course Bailey was run out of town because of the race issue in the Greek system. And, of course Bonner didn't feel the need to continue Bailey's plan or she would have done so before this issue blew up, and, if she really cared to fix the problem they would not be having closed door meetings on Sunday night. And, if they were serious about it the fraternities would be involved too (so far it's only the sororities). They are going to do just enough to get the media and people like Jesse Jackson off their backs.

They will open up recruitment year round and "encourage" the organizations to recruit "qualified" members, meaning they will pick one or two token black girls and then the furor will die down, and next year everything will be back to normal.
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
Dont overlook that the national media, pundits, commentators etc... are in locked step in connecting the championship football program, that is spearheaded by the black athlete cheered by the machine, the same machine that deny their sisters admission into their organizations.
The Administration is more afraid, that the this admission will cost them the elite black athletes that the machine needs to continue to build the myth that the UAT is about inclusion, diversity in its student life and academic excellence and not a football factory.
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Race relations at UA have been bad for a while. I've been keeping up with articles in The Crimson White for a few years that have highlighted the racial issues. One of the biggest problems is the amount of black students that are transferring away from the University. The only way the school will change is when top-flight black athletes choose not to attend which is something that I seriously doubt will happen.
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Yeah, I don't see black athletes not going to Alabama over this. At the end of the day for the top recruits it's about what's the best path to the NFL.
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
Or who pays the most.
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RE: OT: Calling Out Bama's "Good Ole Gal" Sororities
I believe that the beauty of this story is in the spark and not the fire. Had this been started by a group of black students trying to crash the party it would have been met with a lot more resistance from the establishment. The media scrutiny may have been the same. The outcry amongst black people as a whole would have been louder. The progress would have been lower.

But this started with a young white woman being audacious enough to raise her hand and ask, "what about the black girl". Then her friends stood up supported her in extending an invitation to others who don't look like us. In other words, let us judge her by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. To me this is what is often missing when it comes to races relations, or any relationship, who's willing to question the status quo from within.

Everyone has known forever and a day that the greek system at uat was segregated and we accepted it. Most really didn't care, myself included, and those that cared conceded to the machine. I believe real change happens from within, on the micro and macro level. Just because I say what you want to hear, doesn't mean I believe what I say, acceptance is not belief.

We all go through life accepting things we don't believe and seldom fight for the things we do. But this young lady didn't accept the status quo and ask this question because of something she obviously believes in. Why else would she risk so much? That is the ultimate sacrifice risking all that one has for someone else because of what you believe.

Instead of getting caught up in the unpredictability of the fire, we should celebrate the miracle of the spark. Because in the grand scheme of things we are all culpable when we see wrong and we don't say or do anything. Especially when we have the influence to make a difference.
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