(08-22-2013 09:06 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:03 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 08:59 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-21-2013 09:10 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm going to have to say Oklahoma needs to be added on that list.

would you consider okie southern? i always look at oklahoma as texas' little brother

Yeah I would consider okie tSouth. Mods how do I add Oklahoma?

what about arizona and new mexico? i feel the south has a culture distinct all its own. from the mason dixon line to north of florida and east of texas. that's the south in my mind. oklahoma and texas to me bring in mind more of the pioneer west

The se portion of OK has plenty of southern culture as well as a native population of alligators.

(08-22-2013 09:23 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:06 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:03 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 08:59 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-21-2013 09:10 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm going to have to say Oklahoma needs to be added on that list.

would you consider okie southern? i always look at oklahoma as texas' little brother

Yeah I would consider okie tSouth. Mods how do I add Oklahoma?

what about arizona and new mexico? i feel the south has a culture distinct all its own. from the mason dixon line to north of florida and east of texas. that's the south in my mind. oklahoma and texas to me bring in mind more of the pioneer west

The se portion of OK has plenty of southern culture as well as a native population of alligators.

that is certainly interesting. i love pockets of america like that. but my point is is that that (i believe i can correctly say that phrase, maybe?) isn't inductive to oklahoma as a whole. okc and tulsa, while i've never been, might as well be texas and texas sure as shoot won't have any other distinction other than texan, lord love them. i've only stopped for gas in amarillo and met nobody

(08-22-2013 10:52 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:23 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:06 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:03 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 08:59 AM)Lush Wrote:  would you consider okie southern? i always look at oklahoma as texas' little brother

Yeah I would consider okie tSouth. Mods how do I add Oklahoma?

what about arizona and new mexico? i feel the south has a culture distinct all its own. from the mason dixon line to north of florida and east of texas. that's the south in my mind. oklahoma and texas to me bring in mind more of the pioneer west

The se portion of OK has plenty of southern culture as well as a native population of alligators.

that is certainly interesting. i love pockets of america like that. but my point is is that that (i believe i can correctly say that phrase, maybe?) isn't inductive to oklahoma as a whole. okc and tulsa, while i've never been, might as well be texas and texas sure as shoot won't have any other distinction other than texan, lord love them. i've only stopped for gas in amarillo and met nobody

I wouldnt comment on something you have no clue about. IE you admit you have never been there.

I've been through parts of Eastern Texas like Galveston, Texarcana, etc.

I've been through OK and Tulsa.

I don't know if Oklahoma should be considered a Southern State or not. It's more of a Western State, like Texas as a whole. It's weird to describe. It's like Missouri in a way.

(08-22-2013 09:06 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:03 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 08:59 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-21-2013 09:10 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm going to have to say Oklahoma needs to be added on that list.

would you consider okie southern? i always look at oklahoma as texas' little brother

Yeah I would consider okie tSouth. Mods how do I add Oklahoma?

what about arizona and new mexico? i feel the south has a culture distinct all its own. from the mason dixon line to north of florida and east of texas. that's the south in my mind. oklahoma and texas to me bring in mind more of the pioneer west

Oklahoma is undeniably southern. Southeastern Oklahoma is pretty much like northern Louisiana. Eastern Oklahoma is basically like Arkansas. It has it's own southern identity aside from Texas. Texas is similar, but different. Oklahoma resembles Arkansas more so than Texas.

(08-22-2013 11:11 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 10:52 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:23 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:06 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:03 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  Yeah I would consider okie tSouth. Mods how do I add Oklahoma?

what about arizona and new mexico? i feel the south has a culture distinct all its own. from the mason dixon line to north of florida and east of texas. that's the south in my mind. oklahoma and texas to me bring in mind more of the pioneer west

The se portion of OK has plenty of southern culture as well as a native population of alligators.

that is certainly interesting. i love pockets of america like that. but my point is is that that (i believe i can correctly say that phrase, maybe?) isn't inductive to oklahoma as a whole. okc and tulsa, while i've never been, might as well be texas and texas sure as shoot won't have any other distinction other than texan, lord love them. i've only stopped for gas in amarillo and met nobody

I wouldnt comment on something you have no clue about. IE you admit you have never been there.

very true. kind of like you knowing of the existing of gay people and hippies but not actually talking to them and seeing what they really are about.

(08-22-2013 01:15 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 11:11 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 10:52 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:23 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:06 AM)Lush Wrote:  what about arizona and new mexico? i feel the south has a culture distinct all its own. from the mason dixon line to north of florida and east of texas. that's the south in my mind. oklahoma and texas to me bring in mind more of the pioneer west

The se portion of OK has plenty of southern culture as well as a native population of alligators.

that is certainly interesting. i love pockets of america like that. but my point is is that that (i believe i can correctly say that phrase, maybe?) isn't inductive to oklahoma as a whole. okc and tulsa, while i've never been, might as well be texas and texas sure as shoot won't have any other distinction other than texan, lord love them. i've only stopped for gas in amarillo and met nobody

I wouldnt comment on something you have no clue about. IE you admit you have never been there.

very true. kind of like you knowing of the existing of gay people and hippies but not actually talking to them and seeing what they really are about.

I don't talk to that many gay people but I do know a few hippies???

(08-22-2013 01:22 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:15 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 11:11 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 10:52 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:23 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  The se portion of OK has plenty of southern culture as well as a native population of alligators.

that is certainly interesting. i love pockets of america like that. but my point is is that that (i believe i can correctly say that phrase, maybe?) isn't inductive to oklahoma as a whole. okc and tulsa, while i've never been, might as well be texas and texas sure as shoot won't have any other distinction other than texan, lord love them. i've only stopped for gas in amarillo and met nobody

I wouldnt comment on something you have no clue about. IE you admit you have never been there.

very true. kind of like you knowing of the existing of gay people and hippies but not actually talking to them and seeing what they really are about.

I don't talk to that many gay people but I do know a few hippies???

I have a few in the family you would probably like. The guitar pickin type.

Oklahoma is not the south. When most people refer to the south, they're referring to the southeast.

(08-22-2013 01:58 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Oklahoma is not the south. When most people refer to the south, they're referring to the southeast.

The south central and southeast comprise the greater south. Oklahoma is culturally and geographically part of that region. The south is a huge region with many sub regions that all share a common cultural and genetic history.

I think we are all aware of the problem many southerners have in thinking anything north or west of them is not southern. I have family in Alabama that considers Tennessee part of the midwest and North Carolina part of the northeast.

Oklahoma was a confederate controlled territory, all five civilized tribes were part of the confederacy, the confederate flag still flies over the state and most of Oklahoma's settlement prior and during the runs came from other southern states.

You personally don't have to include it, but saying the culture in Oklahoma isn't southern is being naive.

(08-22-2013 02:04 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:58 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Oklahoma is not the south. When most people refer to the south, they're referring to the southeast.

The and southeast comprise the greater south. Oklahoma is culturally and geographically part of that region.

I think we are all aware of the problem many southerners have in thinking anything north or west of them is not southern. Oklahoma was a confederate controlled territory, all five civilized tribes were part of the confederacy, the confederate flag still flies over the state and most of Oklahoma's settlement prior and during the runs came from other southern states.

You personally don't have to include it, but saying the culture in Oklahoma isn't southern is being naive.

That second point is a good one. I've been all over the south and there's a competition for who's more south than everyone else. It's still hard to think of Maryland as the south.

(08-22-2013 02:09 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 02:04 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:58 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Oklahoma is not the south. When most people refer to the south, they're referring to the southeast.

The and southeast comprise the greater south. Oklahoma is culturally and geographically part of that region.

I think we are all aware of the problem many southerners have in thinking anything north or west of them is not southern. Oklahoma was a confederate controlled territory, all five civilized tribes were part of the confederacy, the confederate flag still flies over the state and most of Oklahoma's settlement prior and during the runs came from other southern states.

You personally don't have to include it, but saying the culture in Oklahoma isn't southern is being naive.

That second point is a good one. I've been all over the south and there's a competition for who's more south than everyone else. It's still hard to think of Maryland as the south.

I agree and I will say this. The south ends in Oklahoma. Once you get west of I 35 and north of I 40 it starts to taper off. I will also say that the population also tapers off.

A great way to determine where the cultural south ends and begins is to look at two major factors

Dialect and religious affiliation.

(08-22-2013 01:40 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:22 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:15 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 11:11 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 10:52 AM)Lush Wrote:  that is certainly interesting. i love pockets of america like that. but my point is is that that (i believe i can correctly say that phrase, maybe?) isn't inductive to oklahoma as a whole. okc and tulsa, while i've never been, might as well be texas and texas sure as shoot won't have any other distinction other than texan, lord love them. i've only stopped for gas in amarillo and met nobody

I wouldnt comment on something you have no clue about. IE you admit you have never been there.

very true. kind of like you knowing of the existing of gay people and hippies but not actually talking to them and seeing what they really are about.

I don't talk to that many gay people but I do know a few hippies???

I have a few in the family you would probably like. The guitar pickin type.

I don't mind the country hippy but the neuvo green hippies are too much for me personally.

(08-22-2013 02:18 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:40 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:22 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 01:15 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 11:11 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  I wouldnt comment on something you have no clue about. IE you admit you have never been there.

very true. kind of like you knowing of the existing of gay people and hippies but not actually talking to them and seeing what they really are about.

I don't talk to that many gay people but I do know a few hippies???

I have a few in the family you would probably like. The guitar pickin type.

I don't mind the country hippy but the neuvo green hippies are too much for me personally.

Yep, these are the country type. Guitars, reefer and Lynyrd Skynyrd. They live way out in the sticks and hate the man. They are the black sheep in my family but they are really fun to be around.

LMAO, this **** is classic

(08-22-2013 07:51 PM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  LMAO, this **** is classic

How so? First time I have seen it brought up. You are and will always be a pooplan imo

(08-22-2013 07:53 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 07:51 PM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  LMAO, this **** is classic

How so? First time I have seen it brought up. You are and will always be a pooplan imo

What Tony?

(08-22-2013 07:55 PM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 07:53 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 07:51 PM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  LMAO, this **** is classic

How so? First time I have seen it brought up. You are and will always be a pooplan imo

What Tony?

Wut?

(08-22-2013 09:06 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 07:55 PM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 07:53 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 07:51 PM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  LMAO, this **** is classic

How so? First time I have seen it brought up. You are and will always be a pooplan imo

What Tony?

Wut?

Rule #132...never answer a question with a question.

(08-22-2013 09:36 PM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 09:06 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 07:55 PM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 07:53 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(08-22-2013 07:51 PM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  LMAO, this **** is classic

How so? First time I have seen it brought up. You are and will always be a pooplan imo

What Tony?

Wut?

Rule #132...never answer a question with a question.

huh