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RE: "No News of C-USA Expansion a Good Thing"
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(05-28-2013 06:36 PM)Noodles Wrote:  C-USA will eclipse the AAC in 5 years. Even in football. ODU is an example of a school building a Program, not a team, and outside of ECU (maybe Tulsa) the defectors weren't about that. Houston had success, but I don't look for that to be the norm. There is so much enthusiasm in this conference. It's going to be a fun ride.

Hear Hear!!

It is my guess but in 5 years odu, uncc, usm, and probably Marshall will not be in Cusa. (Opinion)

Where are they going to go? About the only option any Go5 conference member has is to move to the MWC or the AAC. To think that either would be the land of milk and honey is ludicrous. I predict that, due to strength of schedules (or lack thereof), every Go5 conference will produce a team that is the Go5 BCS Bowl representative within 10 years. The way this is shaping up, the only differences between the Go5 conferences will be the attendance and private donation advantages some will have over others, but that isn't where the real money comes from anymore. The big money comes from TV networks, and in that arena, the P5 conferences have dealt us all a death blow.

where would they go? well utep would be a natural addition to the mwc. they have more in common with them than with odu or marshall or any of the florida schools. usm and marshall will eventually go to the aac. the odd man out here seems to be rice..they would be left out...
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RE: "No News of C-USA Expansion a Good Thing"
(05-31-2013 07:37 AM)runamuck Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 06:17 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 12:02 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  
(05-28-2013 08:57 PM)77Herd11 Wrote:  
(05-28-2013 06:36 PM)Noodles Wrote:  C-USA will eclipse the AAC in 5 years. Even in football. ODU is an example of a school building a Program, not a team, and outside of ECU (maybe Tulsa) the defectors weren't about that. Houston had success, but I don't look for that to be the norm. There is so much enthusiasm in this conference. It's going to be a fun ride.

Hear Hear!!

It is my guess but in 5 years odu, uncc, usm, and probably Marshall will not be in Cusa. (Opinion)

Where are they going to go? About the only option any Go5 conference member has is to move to the MWC or the AAC. To think that either would be the land of milk and honey is ludicrous. I predict that, due to strength of schedules (or lack thereof), every Go5 conference will produce a team that is the Go5 BCS Bowl representative within 10 years. The way this is shaping up, the only differences between the Go5 conferences will be the attendance and private donation advantages some will have over others, but that isn't where the real money comes from anymore. The big money comes from TV networks, and in that arena, the P5 conferences have dealt us all a death blow.

where would they go? well utep would be a natural addition to the mwc. they have more in common with them than with odu or marshall or any of the florida schools. usm and marshall will eventually go to the aac. the odd man out here seems to be rice..they would be left out...

Why would we ever want to go to the AAC? What would be the benefit? What would you truly be moving up to? Its not like there is a difference. The TV money is a shade better but the traveling is more spread out which will even things out. We'd have to pay an exit fee and entry fee to get in. I'd rather stay right where we are and build something special with ODU, Charlotte, WKU, USM, UAB, La Tech etc. The destination cities in CUSA are just as good or better than what is in AAC. Charlotte, Norfolk, Boca Raton, Nashville, Birmingham etc are great locations. I also like the idea that we are part of something new in Fox Sports 1. I think they will most certainly rival ESPN and do a good job of it. All this moving around is nonsense now that we are all part of the G05 that has the same level of access that everyone else has.
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RE: "No News of C-USA Expansion a Good Thing"
(05-31-2013 08:30 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 07:37 AM)runamuck Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 06:17 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 12:02 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  
(05-28-2013 08:57 PM)77Herd11 Wrote:  Hear Hear!!

It is my guess but in 5 years odu, uncc, usm, and probably Marshall will not be in Cusa. (Opinion)

Where are they going to go? About the only option any Go5 conference member has is to move to the MWC or the AAC. To think that either would be the land of milk and honey is ludicrous. I predict that, due to strength of schedules (or lack thereof), every Go5 conference will produce a team that is the Go5 BCS Bowl representative within 10 years. The way this is shaping up, the only differences between the Go5 conferences will be the attendance and private donation advantages some will have over others, but that isn't where the real money comes from anymore. The big money comes from TV networks, and in that arena, the P5 conferences have dealt us all a death blow.

where would they go? well utep would be a natural addition to the mwc. they have more in common with them than with odu or marshall or any of the florida schools. usm and marshall will eventually go to the aac. the odd man out here seems to be rice..they would be left out...

Why would we ever want to go to the AAC? What would be the benefit? What would you truly be moving up to? Its not like there is a difference. The TV money is a shade better but the traveling is more spread out which will even things out. We'd have to pay an exit fee and entry fee to get in. I'd rather stay right where we are and build something special with ODU, Charlotte, WKU, USM, UAB, La Tech etc. The destination cities in CUSA are just as good or better than what is in AAC. Charlotte, Norfolk, Boca Raton, Nashville, Birmingham etc are great locations. I also like the idea that we are part of something new in Fox Sports 1. I think they will most certainly rival ESPN and do a good job of it. All this moving around is nonsense now that we are all part of the G05 that has the same level of access that everyone else has.

The only reason I can think of is to be with familiar schools.
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RE: "No News of C-USA Expansion a Good Thing"
(05-31-2013 09:27 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 08:30 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 07:37 AM)runamuck Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 06:17 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 12:02 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  It is my guess but in 5 years odu, uncc, usm, and probably Marshall will not be in Cusa. (Opinion)

Where are they going to go? About the only option any Go5 conference member has is to move to the MWC or the AAC. To think that either would be the land of milk and honey is ludicrous. I predict that, due to strength of schedules (or lack thereof), every Go5 conference will produce a team that is the Go5 BCS Bowl representative within 10 years. The way this is shaping up, the only differences between the Go5 conferences will be the attendance and private donation advantages some will have over others, but that isn't where the real money comes from anymore. The big money comes from TV networks, and in that arena, the P5 conferences have dealt us all a death blow.

where would they go? well utep would be a natural addition to the mwc. they have more in common with them than with odu or marshall or any of the florida schools. usm and marshall will eventually go to the aac. the odd man out here seems to be rice..they would be left out...

Why would we ever want to go to the AAC? What would be the benefit? What would you truly be moving up to? Its not like there is a difference. The TV money is a shade better but the traveling is more spread out which will even things out. We'd have to pay an exit fee and entry fee to get in. I'd rather stay right where we are and build something special with ODU, Charlotte, WKU, USM, UAB, La Tech etc. The destination cities in CUSA are just as good or better than what is in AAC. Charlotte, Norfolk, Boca Raton, Nashville, Birmingham etc are great locations. I also like the idea that we are part of something new in Fox Sports 1. I think they will most certainly rival ESPN and do a good job of it. All this moving around is nonsense now that we are all part of the G05 that has the same level of access that everyone else has.

The only reason I can think of is to be with familiar schools.

If 90%+ of their basketball games will be on ESPN or CBS like they are reporting that's a big plus. Our TV for football is pretty good, but basketball leaves a lot of be desired.
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RE: "No News of C-USA Expansion a Good Thing"
(05-31-2013 09:27 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 08:30 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 07:37 AM)runamuck Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 06:17 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 12:02 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  It is my guess but in 5 years odu, uncc, usm, and probably Marshall will not be in Cusa. (Opinion)

Where are they going to go? About the only option any Go5 conference member has is to move to the MWC or the AAC. To think that either would be the land of milk and honey is ludicrous. I predict that, due to strength of schedules (or lack thereof), every Go5 conference will produce a team that is the Go5 BCS Bowl representative within 10 years. The way this is shaping up, the only differences between the Go5 conferences will be the attendance and private donation advantages some will have over others, but that isn't where the real money comes from anymore. The big money comes from TV networks, and in that arena, the P5 conferences have dealt us all a death blow.

where would they go? well utep would be a natural addition to the mwc. they have more in common with them than with odu or marshall or any of the florida schools. usm and marshall will eventually go to the aac. the odd man out here seems to be rice..they would be left out...

Why would we ever want to go to the AAC? What would be the benefit? What would you truly be moving up to? Its not like there is a difference. The TV money is a shade better but the traveling is more spread out which will even things out. We'd have to pay an exit fee and entry fee to get in. I'd rather stay right where we are and build something special with ODU, Charlotte, WKU, USM, UAB, La Tech etc. The destination cities in CUSA are just as good or better than what is in AAC. Charlotte, Norfolk, Boca Raton, Nashville, Birmingham etc are great locations. I also like the idea that we are part of something new in Fox Sports 1. I think they will most certainly rival ESPN and do a good job of it. All this moving around is nonsense now that we are all part of the G05 that has the same level of access that everyone else has.

The only reason I can think of is to be with familiar schools.

What familiar schools? We've been on an Island the last 6-7 years. We've been waiting to get some teams here in the east. The only schools that we had any real familiarity with before was UCF and ECU. That's it.

I like what CUSA has brought in. I really think we can have something special in the years to come. I can envision some great basketball rivalries between WKU/Marshall/ODU/Charlotte/UAB etc.
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(05-31-2013 09:30 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 09:27 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 08:30 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 07:37 AM)runamuck Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 06:17 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  Where are they going to go? About the only option any Go5 conference member has is to move to the MWC or the AAC. To think that either would be the land of milk and honey is ludicrous. I predict that, due to strength of schedules (or lack thereof), every Go5 conference will produce a team that is the Go5 BCS Bowl representative within 10 years. The way this is shaping up, the only differences between the Go5 conferences will be the attendance and private donation advantages some will have over others, but that isn't where the real money comes from anymore. The big money comes from TV networks, and in that arena, the P5 conferences have dealt us all a death blow.

where would they go? well utep would be a natural addition to the mwc. they have more in common with them than with odu or marshall or any of the florida schools. usm and marshall will eventually go to the aac. the odd man out here seems to be rice..they would be left out...

Why would we ever want to go to the AAC? What would be the benefit? What would you truly be moving up to? Its not like there is a difference. The TV money is a shade better but the traveling is more spread out which will even things out. We'd have to pay an exit fee and entry fee to get in. I'd rather stay right where we are and build something special with ODU, Charlotte, WKU, USM, UAB, La Tech etc. The destination cities in CUSA are just as good or better than what is in AAC. Charlotte, Norfolk, Boca Raton, Nashville, Birmingham etc are great locations. I also like the idea that we are part of something new in Fox Sports 1. I think they will most certainly rival ESPN and do a good job of it. All this moving around is nonsense now that we are all part of the G05 that has the same level of access that everyone else has.

The only reason I can think of is to be with familiar schools.

If 90%+ of their basketball games will be on ESPN or CBS like they are reporting that's a big plus. Our TV for football is pretty good, but basketball leaves a lot of be desired.

90% of their games wont be on ESPN. That's bogus. I'm going to to out on a limb and predict that when its all said and done, we get more exposure being on the new Fox Sports 1 then they do on ESPN. FS1 needs the inventory. We help provide it.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/FOX...ork-030513


FOX Sports 1 Programming Highlights

COLLEGE BASKETBALL – Dozens of exclusive prime time games on Monday and Thursday nights, plus Saturday and Sunday coverage of the Big 12, Pac-12 and Conference USA.

COLLEGE FOOTBALL – live games from the Pac-12, Big 12 and Conference USA on Thursday nights and Saturdays; triple- and quadruple-headers on Saturdays; Saturday pre- and postgame coverage.
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RE: "No News of C-USA Expansion a Good Thing"
(05-31-2013 08:30 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 07:37 AM)runamuck Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 06:17 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 12:02 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  
(05-28-2013 08:57 PM)77Herd11 Wrote:  Hear Hear!!

It is my guess but in 5 years odu, uncc, usm, and probably Marshall will not be in Cusa. (Opinion)

Where are they going to go? About the only option any Go5 conference member has is to move to the MWC or the AAC. To think that either would be the land of milk and honey is ludicrous. I predict that, due to strength of schedules (or lack thereof), every Go5 conference will produce a team that is the Go5 BCS Bowl representative within 10 years. The way this is shaping up, the only differences between the Go5 conferences will be the attendance and private donation advantages some will have over others, but that isn't where the real money comes from anymore. The big money comes from TV networks, and in that arena, the P5 conferences have dealt us all a death blow.

where would they go? well utep would be a natural addition to the mwc. they have more in common with them than with odu or marshall or any of the florida schools. usm and marshall will eventually go to the aac. the odd man out here seems to be rice..they would be left out...

Why would we ever want to go to the AAC? What would be the benefit? What would you truly be moving up to? Its not like there is a difference. The TV money is a shade better but the traveling is more spread out which will even things out. We'd have to pay an exit fee and entry fee to get in. I'd rather stay right where we are and build something special with ODU, Charlotte, WKU, USM, UAB, La Tech etc. The destination cities in CUSA are just as good or better than what is in AAC. Charlotte, Norfolk, Boca Raton, Nashville, Birmingham etc are great locations. I also like the idea that we are part of something new in Fox Sports 1. I think they will most certainly rival ESPN and do a good job of it. All this moving around is nonsense now that we are all part of the G05 that has the same level of access that everyone else has.

Very sensible post. (Something we don't see enough of these days!)
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RE: "No News of C-USA Expansion a Good Thing"
(05-31-2013 02:51 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 09:30 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 09:27 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 08:30 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  
(05-31-2013 07:37 AM)runamuck Wrote:  where would they go? well utep would be a natural addition to the mwc. they have more in common with them than with odu or marshall or any of the florida schools. usm and marshall will eventually go to the aac. the odd man out here seems to be rice..they would be left out...

Why would we ever want to go to the AAC? What would be the benefit? What would you truly be moving up to? Its not like there is a difference. The TV money is a shade better but the traveling is more spread out which will even things out. We'd have to pay an exit fee and entry fee to get in. I'd rather stay right where we are and build something special with ODU, Charlotte, WKU, USM, UAB, La Tech etc. The destination cities in CUSA are just as good or better than what is in AAC. Charlotte, Norfolk, Boca Raton, Nashville, Birmingham etc are great locations. I also like the idea that we are part of something new in Fox Sports 1. I think they will most certainly rival ESPN and do a good job of it. All this moving around is nonsense now that we are all part of the G05 that has the same level of access that everyone else has.

The only reason I can think of is to be with familiar schools.

If 90%+ of their basketball games will be on ESPN or CBS like they are reporting that's a big plus. Our TV for football is pretty good, but basketball leaves a lot of be desired.

90% of their games wont be on ESPN. That's bogus. I'm going to to out on a limb and predict that when its all said and done, we get more exposure being on the new Fox Sports 1 then they do on ESPN. FS1 needs the inventory. We help provide it.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/FOX...ork-030513


FOX Sports 1 Programming Highlights

COLLEGE BASKETBALL – Dozens of exclusive prime time games on Monday and Thursday nights, plus Saturday and Sunday coverage of the Big 12, Pac-12 and Conference USA.

COLLEGE FOOTBALL – live games from the Pac-12, Big 12 and Conference USA on Thursday nights and Saturdays; triple- and quadruple-headers on Saturdays; Saturday pre- and postgame coverage.

The AAC will not have 90% of thier games on ESPN. They wil have 90% of thier games on ABC, ESPN, ESPN-2, or ESPN-U. I suspect ESPN-U will house alot of thier games in 2014, however, in 2015--when 45 SEC games are scheduled to move from the ESPN networks to the SEC Network, I suspect alot more AAC games will show up on ABC, ESPN, and ESPN-2. That said, I agree that the existance of Fox Sports-1 will give CUSA the largest national stage they have enjoyed since leaving ESPN. Fox Sports-1 will reach about 80-million homes---thats nearly twice as many homes as CBS Sports (which would be the leagues current largest national carrier).
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(05-28-2013 09:52 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(05-28-2013 09:38 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  We were in the league for other sports, but never for football.

This is correct. LA Tech never played football in the Sunbelt.

It's pretty well known --at least by people who know anything about LA Tech football-- that LA Tech repeatedly rebuffed invitations from the Sunbelt conference, and turned the Sunbelt's world upside down back in 2000 when the Bulldogs --a Div 1A football independent at the time-- decided to join the WAC along with Boise State, instead of accepting an invitation to join the Sunbelt for football (which was just beginning). For those of you that don't know, this one issue is the original source of most Sunbelt teams' bitterness towards LA Tech.

UCF was also going to join the Sunbelt but only if Tech was joining.
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RE: "No News of C-USA Expansion a Good Thing"
(05-30-2013 12:02 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  It is my guess but in 5 years odu, uncc, usm, and probably Marshall will not be in Cusa. (Opinion)

Where will we go. If it would be the AAC then that means that Cincy, UConn and UCF/USF are gone. There would be absolutely no reason for Marshall or any other school to pay 10 million dollars in a few years to have the same schedule as we did last year to only have the same access.

(05-30-2013 03:17 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  We are growing like crazy with all the new facilities and academic programs but I dont see us going anywhere anytime soon if ever. I really like what I see with the new schools coming into CUSA. What's not to like? We added some great destination cities. In the long run, I think CUSA will be the "place to be" out of the remaining G05 conferences. Overcoming the MWC will be the big hurdle IMO.

I think for the 1st time in a very long time we have the right people in place at Marshall. Dr Kopp and Mike Hamrick have the right ideas and the balls to try and get things done. A lot of people didn't like Kopp at first but he really did walk into a mess when he got to Huntington. Those people I think now realize that Kopp is athletics friendly.

(05-30-2013 08:30 PM)swampbear Wrote:  In 5 years who in the heck knows how any Conference is going to look....absolute madness...

Unless some schools just lose their minds if the Maryland case sides with the school, I think the big moving parts may slow down to a snails pace soon.

(05-31-2013 02:51 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  90% of their games wont be on ESPN. That's bogus. I'm going to to out on a limb and predict that when its all said and done, we get more exposure being on the new Fox Sports 1 then they do on ESPN. FS1 needs the inventory. We help provide it.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/FOX...ork-030513


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COLLEGE BASKETBALL – Dozens of exclusive prime time games on Monday and Thursday nights, plus Saturday and Sunday coverage of the Big 12, Pac-12 and Conference USA.

COLLEGE FOOTBALL – live games from the Pac-12, Big 12 and Conference USA on Thursday nights and Saturdays; triple- and quadruple-headers on Saturdays; Saturday pre- and postgame coverage.

90% of their games might be covered but I will say 85% of that 90% will be on ESPN3. Some of Memphis UConn and Cincy will be on ESPN, the others better hope they are playing one of those 3.

If I was Fox Sports1 I would be looking at those 400 people ESPN just let go, if they are going to make a push at ESPN some of those 400 have some good experience on how to produce successfully.

I would also look to sign some good personalities too that don't work at ESPN. Someone like Dan Patrick and others.

(06-01-2013 01:19 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The AAC will not have 90% of thier games on ESPN. They wil have 90% of thier games on ABC, ESPN, ESPN-2, or ESPN-U. I suspect ESPN-U will house alot of thier games in 2014, however, in 2015--when 45 SEC games are scheduled to move from the ESPN networks to the SEC Network, I suspect alot more AAC games will show up on ABC, ESPN, and ESPN-2. That said, I agree that the existance of Fox Sports-1 will give CUSA the largest national stage they have enjoyed since leaving ESPN. Fox Sports-1 will reach about 80-million homes---thats nearly twice as many homes as CBS Sports (which would be the leagues current largest national carrier).

Again those will be Memphis, Cincy and UConn games. The rest except maybe one game will be relegated to ESPN3.

And who knows what UConn will like like in a few years once Calhoun's recruits are gone.
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RE: "No News of C-USA Expansion a Good Thing"
(06-01-2013 01:39 PM)winston70 Wrote:  
(05-28-2013 09:52 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(05-28-2013 09:38 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  We were in the league for other sports, but never for football.

This is correct. LA Tech never played football in the Sunbelt.

It's pretty well known --at least by people who know anything about LA Tech football-- that LA Tech repeatedly rebuffed invitations from the Sunbelt conference, and turned the Sunbelt's world upside down back in 2000 when the Bulldogs --a Div 1A football independent at the time-- decided to join the WAC along with Boise State, instead of accepting an invitation to join the Sunbelt for football (which was just beginning). For those of you that don't know, this one issue is the original source of most Sunbelt teams' bitterness towards LA Tech.

UCF was also going to join the Sunbelt but only if Tech was joining.

this is true and when Tech decided to go to the WAC then UCF went to the MAC
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(06-01-2013 03:12 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 12:02 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  It is my guess but in 5 years odu, uncc, usm, and probably Marshall will not be in Cusa. (Opinion)

Where will we go. If it would be the AAC then that means that Cincy, UConn and UCF/USF are gone. There would be absolutely no reason for Marshall or any other school to pay 10 million dollars in a few years to have the same schedule as we did last year to only have the same access.

(05-30-2013 03:17 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  We are growing like crazy with all the new facilities and academic programs but I dont see us going anywhere anytime soon if ever. I really like what I see with the new schools coming into CUSA. What's not to like? We added some great destination cities. In the long run, I think CUSA will be the "place to be" out of the remaining G05 conferences. Overcoming the MWC will be the big hurdle IMO.

I think for the 1st time in a very long time we have the right people in place at Marshall. Dr Kopp and Mike Hamrick have the right ideas and the balls to try and get things done. A lot of people didn't like Kopp at first but he really did walk into a mess when he got to Huntington. Those people I think now realize that Kopp is athletics friendly.

(05-30-2013 08:30 PM)swampbear Wrote:  In 5 years who in the heck knows how any Conference is going to look....absolute madness...

Unless some schools just lose their minds if the Maryland case sides with the school, I think the big moving parts may slow down to a snails pace soon.

(05-31-2013 02:51 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  90% of their games wont be on ESPN. That's bogus. I'm going to to out on a limb and predict that when its all said and done, we get more exposure being on the new Fox Sports 1 then they do on ESPN. FS1 needs the inventory. We help provide it.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/FOX...ork-030513


FOX Sports 1 Programming Highlights

COLLEGE BASKETBALL – Dozens of exclusive prime time games on Monday and Thursday nights, plus Saturday and Sunday coverage of the Big 12, Pac-12 and Conference USA.

COLLEGE FOOTBALL – live games from the Pac-12, Big 12 and Conference USA on Thursday nights and Saturdays; triple- and quadruple-headers on Saturdays; Saturday pre- and postgame coverage.

90% of their games might be covered but I will say 85% of that 90% will be on ESPN3. Some of Memphis UConn and Cincy will be on ESPN, the others better hope they are playing one of those 3.

If I was Fox Sports1 I would be looking at those 400 people ESPN just let go, if they are going to make a push at ESPN some of those 400 have some good experience on how to produce successfully.

I would also look to sign some good personalities too that don't work at ESPN. Someone like Dan Patrick and others.

(06-01-2013 01:19 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The AAC will not have 90% of thier games on ESPN. They wil have 90% of thier games on ABC, ESPN, ESPN-2, or ESPN-U. I suspect ESPN-U will house alot of thier games in 2014, however, in 2015--when 45 SEC games are scheduled to move from the ESPN networks to the SEC Network, I suspect alot more AAC games will show up on ABC, ESPN, and ESPN-2. That said, I agree that the existance of Fox Sports-1 will give CUSA the largest national stage they have enjoyed since leaving ESPN. Fox Sports-1 will reach about 80-million homes---thats nearly twice as many homes as CBS Sports (which would be the leagues current largest national carrier).

Again those will be Memphis, Cincy and UConn games. The rest except maybe one game will be relegated to ESPN3.

And who knows what UConn will like like in a few years once Calhoun's recruits are gone.

Actually I was giving you the football numbers. Basketball is not as high. I believe its like 107 of 150-160 basketball games will be nationally televised on ESPN/ESPN-2/ESPN-U/ABC with another 6-12 games on CBS over the air. Incidentally, every basketball game will be televised. The remaining 20-30% of the games that are not picked up nationally will be on a regional carrier and/or another national carrier. So thats closer to 63% of basketball games will get national covereage.

BTW---ESPN-3 doesnt count as "televised" in the agreement. Remember, ESPN had to match NBC's offer. There were no digital-only games in the NBC agreement. We wont make squat, but we will get some pretty decent coverage.

Dont be surprised if CUSA basketball coverage increases with the introduction of Fox Sports-1. They will need some inventory and it has to come from somewhere.

http://www.bigeast.org/News/tabid/435/Ar...-espn.aspx
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(05-30-2013 12:02 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  It is my guess but in 5 years odu, uncc, usm, and probably Marshall will not be in Cusa. (Opinion)

Where will we go. If it would be the AAC then that means that Cincy, UConn and UCF/USF are gone. There would be absolutely no reason for Marshall or any other school to pay 10 million dollars in a few years to have the same schedule as we did last year to only have the same access.

(05-30-2013 03:17 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  We are growing like crazy with all the new facilities and academic programs but I dont see us going anywhere anytime soon if ever. I really like what I see with the new schools coming into CUSA. What's not to like? We added some great destination cities. In the long run, I think CUSA will be the "place to be" out of the remaining G05 conferences. Overcoming the MWC will be the big hurdle IMO.

I think for the 1st time in a very long time we have the right people in place at Marshall. Dr Kopp and Mike Hamrick have the right ideas and the balls to try and get things done. A lot of people didn't like Kopp at first but he really did walk into a mess when he got to Huntington. Those people I think now realize that Kopp is athletics friendly.

(05-30-2013 08:30 PM)swampbear Wrote:  In 5 years who in the heck knows how any Conference is going to look....absolute madness...

Unless some schools just lose their minds if the Maryland case sides with the school, I think the big moving parts may slow down to a snails pace soon.

(05-31-2013 02:51 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  90% of their games wont be on ESPN. That's bogus. I'm going to to out on a limb and predict that when its all said and done, we get more exposure being on the new Fox Sports 1 then they do on ESPN. FS1 needs the inventory. We help provide it.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/FOX...ork-030513


FOX Sports 1 Programming Highlights

COLLEGE BASKETBALL – Dozens of exclusive prime time games on Monday and Thursday nights, plus Saturday and Sunday coverage of the Big 12, Pac-12 and Conference USA.

COLLEGE FOOTBALL – live games from the Pac-12, Big 12 and Conference USA on Thursday nights and Saturdays; triple- and quadruple-headers on Saturdays; Saturday pre- and postgame coverage.

90% of their games might be covered but I will say 85% of that 90% will be on ESPN3. Some of Memphis UConn and Cincy will be on ESPN, the others better hope they are playing one of those 3.

If I was Fox Sports1 I would be looking at those 400 people ESPN just let go, if they are going to make a push at ESPN some of those 400 have some good experience on how to produce successfully.

I would also look to sign some good personalities too that don't work at ESPN. Someone like Dan Patrick and others.

(06-01-2013 01:19 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The AAC will not have 90% of thier games on ESPN. They wil have 90% of thier games on ABC, ESPN, ESPN-2, or ESPN-U. I suspect ESPN-U will house alot of thier games in 2014, however, in 2015--when 45 SEC games are scheduled to move from the ESPN networks to the SEC Network, I suspect alot more AAC games will show up on ABC, ESPN, and ESPN-2. That said, I agree that the existance of Fox Sports-1 will give CUSA the largest national stage they have enjoyed since leaving ESPN. Fox Sports-1 will reach about 80-million homes---thats nearly twice as many homes as CBS Sports (which would be the leagues current largest national carrier).

Again those will be Memphis, Cincy and UConn games. The rest except maybe one game will be relegated to ESPN3.

And who knows what UConn will like like in a few years once Calhoun's recruits are gone.

Actually I was giving you the football numbers. Basketball is not as high. I believe its like 107 of 150-160 basketball games will be nationally televised on ESPN/ESPN-2/ESPN-U/ABC with another 6-12 games on CBS over the air. Incidentally, every basketball game will be televised. The remaining 20-30% of the games that are not picked up nationally will be on a regional carrier and/or another national carrier. So thats closer to 63% of basketball games will get national covereage.

BTW---ESPN-3 doesnt count as "televised" in the agreement. Remember, ESPN had to match NBC's offer. There were no digital-only games in the NBC agreement. We wont make squat, but we will get some pretty decent coverage.

Dont be surprised if CUSA basketball coverage increases with the introduction of Fox Sports-1. They will need some inventory and it has to come from somewhere.

http://www.bigeast.org/News/tabid/435/Ar...-espn.aspx

Speaking of NBC, does anyone know what football conferences have deals with NBC? What are they going to be broadcasting next year during college football season?
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(05-28-2013 06:36 PM)Noodles Wrote:  C-USA will eclipse the AAC in 5 years. Even in football. ODU is an example of a school building a Program, not a team, and outside of ECU (maybe Tulsa) the defectors weren't about that. Houston had success, but I don't look for that to be the norm. There is so much enthusiasm in this conference. It's going to be a fun ride.

Did the sun belt ever eclipse CUSA 2.0?
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(06-01-2013 05:12 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  
(05-28-2013 06:36 PM)Noodles Wrote:  C-USA will eclipse the AAC in 5 years. Even in football. ODU is an example of a school building a Program, not a team, and outside of ECU (maybe Tulsa) the defectors weren't about that. Houston had success, but I don't look for that to be the norm. There is so much enthusiasm in this conference. It's going to be a fun ride.

Did the sun belt ever eclipse CUSA 2.0?

No. But, the Sun Belt was a one bowl conference, and is still mostly small market move up programs.

The gap between the new C-USA and the AAC is closer then the Belt ever got to the old C-USA. The new C-USA has several large market programs. I also think the new C-USA West division will draw more fans to games then the AAC West. Houston is the only AAC West program I see drawing a crowd. Both conferences will probably end up with the same number of bowl ties. I just think the difference between C-USA, the MWC, and the AAC is not very much.

I'm not saying the new C-USA is going to eclipse the AAC in 5 years, but it should be our goal over the next decade. And, it is a possibility.
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(06-01-2013 04:09 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Speaking of NBC, does anyone know what football conferences have deals with NBC? What are they going to be broadcasting next year during college football season?

Mountain West, CAA and Ivy League
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(06-01-2013 04:09 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Speaking of NBC, does anyone know what football conferences have deals with NBC? What are they going to be broadcasting next year during college football season?

Mountain West, CAA and Ivy League

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(06-02-2013 02:05 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Mountain West, CAA and Ivy League

Im surprised that NBC doesn't have an out with the CAA. Im sure none of the schools are left in the CAA that they wanted to televise unless they were counting Delaware and JMU too.
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(06-01-2013 04:09 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Speaking of NBC, does anyone know what football conferences have deals with NBC? What are they going to be broadcasting next year during college football season?

Mountain West, CAA and Ivy League

NBC Sports Network doesn't have the Mountain West anymore. NBC Sports Network inherited some MW games last year from their old Versus contract.

NBC has Notre Dame.
NBC Sports Network doesn't have any FBS football.
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My team Tulane an original member of CUSA is "bolting to the poorly named AAC" as per the original tread poster. The teams that are leaving CUSA to the AAC are Tier One nationally known and top academic universities moving up to a higher prestige conference. The fillers for CUSA are mostly regional many commuter schools Tier 2,universities as ex Sunbelt members. Basically the new CUSA is now the Sunbelt 2. Rice,Southern Miss and UAB desperately want to ditch CUSA and get in the AAC with it's piers school. U La La in Lafayette hates the Sunbelt and is on it's knee to get in the Sunbelt 2.
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