(04-15-2013 12:18 PM)Rich52c Wrote: (04-15-2013 11:34 AM)nzmorange Wrote: *Nobody said that being AAU was stupid, and before your last post, you never said it wasn't. In otherwords, you statement that "[b]eing an AAU school is hardly stupid" is out of left field.
*It is completely made up that "the magnitude of the payoff for the national championship [sic] of [sic] the ACC is smaller than the payoff for the big 12,[sic]B10,[sic]SEC [sic] or PAC12." Revnue will be split equally and the teams that appear in the "Football Four" games will earn the say payout for their conference, regardless of their conference affiliation. The ACC won't even split it more ways than the SEC or the B1G, because ND will not participate in the ACC's distribution of that money.
*I do not see the relevance to your statement that "...it also true that 6 out of 15 schools in the ACC are non public." However, that depends on your definition of "public." By some definitions of "public," Pitt is public, but Pitt is merely state-related by other definitions.
The number of non-public schools in the PAC 12 is 2 out of 12
The number of non-public schools in the BIG 12 is 2 out of 10
The number of non-public schools in the BIG 10 is 1 out of 14
The number of non-public schools in the SEC is 1 out of 14
The number of non-public schools in the ACC is 6 out of 15
The number of non-public schools in all 5 National championship is 12
and 50% of them are inthe ACC.Thus the nature of the ACC in terms of public and non-public is very different.The size of the stadiums for 3 ACC schools is much smaller than the average of the 65 schools currently in the national playoff.
Also the playoff for the national championship has the B10 vs the PAC 10,champions facing each other.Also the SEC champion plays the B12 champion.The ACC plays a #2 school from one of the 4 leagues(SEC,PAC 12,B10,B12)I think it is set up to play the B12#2.
You also said AAU talk is stupid,I disagree.
* What did I say that caused you to feel the need to lecture me about the number of private universities who participate in G5 conferences? How was any of that relevant to
anything that I said?
Anyway, to respond to what you wrote: you can cherry pick 3 schools from any conference that have substantially smaller than average stadiums. For example, look at the stadium sized of Vanderbilt, 'Ole Miss (guess), and Mississippi State. Heck, throw in UK while you're at it, and I bet that they all have below average stadiums, and they're in the SEC.
* And no, the playoff for the national championship does not involve any predesignated matchups based on conference affiliation. Four teams will be chosen and they will presumably be matched up based on their selection order. Each school will be awarded $6,000,000 for appearing in the playoff and that money will be surrenderred to that school's conference, provided that the school's football team is a member of a conference. A school's conference affiliation does not change the payout. The money leftover after administrative costs and team payouts will then be distributed amongst G5 conferences, g5 conferences, and indies. The G5 will split their cut equally. The ACC will get the same cut as the Big XII, the SEC, the Pac-12, and the BIG TEN. The ACC will then split the money equally amongst its members, excluding ND, just like every other conference. That means that the payout for each and every ACC school, excluding ND, will be the same as every SEC school and every B1G school.
When you talk about the ACC getting a reduced payout, you're thinking of the ACC's top bowl when compared to the top bowl of the other conferences. Although the bowls are slated to host a "Football Four" playoff game once every 3 years, and the owners of the bowl get to keep the TV rights to that game, the ACC's participation in the Orange Bowl is not part of the national championship playoff, unless an ACC team happens to get selected in as a Football Four team while the Orange Bowl is hosting, and the ACC team happens to get selected for that location. However, in such a situation, the ACC's payout for participating in that game will not be any different than the payout would have been for any other conference.
Also, unless the current contracts are modified, the ACC will never face a Big XII team in the Orange Bowl, unless it during the Football Four playoff. Football Four playoff games aside, the ACC will always face a B1G team, a SEC team, or Notre Dame.
*Now you're changing what you wrote. You wrote "[b]eing an AAU school is hardly stupid." There is a substantial difference between a school's membership in an academic organization, and a fan thinking that membership in said organization is a prereq for admission to an athletic conference. However, in a previous post, I did say something to the effect that "AAU talk is stupid [when it involves advocating a belief that AAU membership is a prereq to joining an athletic conference]," and I stand by my statement. There is no real evidence to the contrary, and there is a substantial amount of evidence supporting my claim. I do think that, all other factors being equal, the B1G would rather admit a school with AAU membership, but it is clearly not a prereq.
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Anyway, this conversation is becoming silly. I think I'm going to end it here. You're on your own after this message.
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ND to ACC worth $1 million/school
