(04-10-2013 04:14 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  So Notre Dame is worth somewhere around 18 million to the ACC it seems.

It is funny to see all the hate about the ACC deal on here.

A few thoughts I have. Notre Dame will be of help improving the ACC's lineup in the upcoming bowl game reshuffle that is bound to happen. Yes they get a share just like Duke does. Unlike Duke they actually help secure bigger name bowls for the conference. They do get to keep their BCS money. They always have gotten to keep it so I am not too bent out of shape over it. If they make the Orange Bowl the ACC gets more money.

Notre Dame never has played Virginia Tech. Now we have Notre Dame on the schedule every three years. Most of the fans are pretty excited about that.

Notre Dame's Olympic sports are some of the strongest in the country. They'll help add quality content to any potential channel that might be started.

Of course it would be better if they were a football member. Having the choice between the current arrangement and no affiliation, I would choose the current agreement every time. We all get paid, access to better bowls, high quality opponent in Olympic sports, and a game against ND every three years. I don't see any downsides.

+1

But for what it's worth, the current deal is worth just over $17.14 million, and he said "over" a million, so the next deal will be worth $18.15+ million. I could be reading too much into this, but I'm assuming that "just over" a million implies anywhere between 1.15 million to 1.35 million, otherwise I think they would have said either a million, or about a million. I say .15+, because the current deal, which is worth $17.14..., is usually referred to as being worth $17 million, so clearly the $0.14... million is too trivial to mention. I capped it at .35 because if it was $0.5 million, I think that he would have said and "a half," and .5 - .15 (a trivial amount) = .35. That means I think the new deal will be worth between $18.29 million and $18.49 million.

My money is on a deal that is either worth $260 million per year ($18.30986/school) or a deal that is worth $262.5 million per year ($18.48592/school) because those are the most clean-cut numbers in the range, assuming that ND gets a 20% share and that there are 14 full shares, and people tend to like clean-cut numbers. Either way, I think that calling it $18.5 million is marginally more accurate, but I'm admittedly splitting hairs.

(04-10-2013 07:17 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 04:14 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  So Notre Dame is worth somewhere around 18 million to the ACC it seems.

It is funny to see all the hate about the ACC deal on here.

A few thoughts I have. Notre Dame will be of help improving the ACC's lineup in the upcoming bowl game reshuffle that is bound to happen. Yes they get a share just like Duke does. Unlike Duke they actually help secure bigger name bowls for the conference. They do get to keep their BCS money. They always have gotten to keep it so I am not too bent out of shape over it. If they make the Orange Bowl the ACC gets more money.

Notre Dame never has played Virginia Tech. Now we have Notre Dame on the schedule every three years. Most of the fans are pretty excited about that.

Notre Dame's Olympic sports are some of the strongest in the country. They'll help add quality content to any potential channel that might be started.

Of course it would be better if they were a football member. Having the choice between the current arrangement and no affiliation, I would choose the current agreement every time. We all get paid, access to better bowls, high quality opponent in Olympic sports, and a game against ND every three years. I don't see any downsides.

+1

But for what it's worth, the current deal is worth just over $17.14 million, and he said "over" a million, so the next deal will be worth $18.15+ million. I could be reading too much into this, but I'm assuming that "just over" a million implies anywhere between 1.15 million to 1.35 million, otherwise I think they would have said either a million, or about a million. I say .15+, because the current deal, which is worth $17.14..., is usually referred to as being worth $17 million, so clearly the $0.14... million is too trivial to mention. I capped it at .35 because if it was $0.5 million, I think that he would have said and "a half," and .5 - .15 (a trivial amount) = .35. That means I think the new deal will be worth between $18.29 million and $18.49 million.

My money is on a deal that is either worth $260 million per year ($18.30986/school) or a deal that is worth $262.5 million per year ($18.48592/school) because those are the most clean-cut numbers in the range, assuming that ND gets a 20% share and that there are 14 full shares, and people tend to like clean-cut numbers. Either way, I think that calling it $18.5 million is marginally more accurate, but I'm admittedly splitting hairs.

I wasn't trying to get specific. I just figured it paid 14 teams 1 million more and one team somewhere between 3.5-4 million. So 18 was meant to be a generalization.

(04-10-2013 07:26 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 07:17 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 04:14 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  So Notre Dame is worth somewhere around 18 million to the ACC it seems.

It is funny to see all the hate about the ACC deal on here.

A few thoughts I have. Notre Dame will be of help improving the ACC's lineup in the upcoming bowl game reshuffle that is bound to happen. Yes they get a share just like Duke does. Unlike Duke they actually help secure bigger name bowls for the conference. They do get to keep their BCS money. They always have gotten to keep it so I am not too bent out of shape over it. If they make the Orange Bowl the ACC gets more money.

Notre Dame never has played Virginia Tech. Now we have Notre Dame on the schedule every three years. Most of the fans are pretty excited about that.

Notre Dame's Olympic sports are some of the strongest in the country. They'll help add quality content to any potential channel that might be started.

Of course it would be better if they were a football member. Having the choice between the current arrangement and no affiliation, I would choose the current agreement every time. We all get paid, access to better bowls, high quality opponent in Olympic sports, and a game against ND every three years. I don't see any downsides.

+1

But for what it's worth, the current deal is worth just over $17.14 million, and he said "over" a million, so the next deal will be worth $18.15+ million. I could be reading too much into this, but I'm assuming that "just over" a million implies anywhere between 1.15 million to 1.35 million, otherwise I think they would have said either a million, or about a million. I say .15+, because the current deal, which is worth $17.14..., is usually referred to as being worth $17 million, so clearly the $0.14... million is too trivial to mention. I capped it at .35 because if it was $0.5 million, I think that he would have said and "a half," and .5 - .15 (a trivial amount) = .35. That means I think the new deal will be worth between $18.29 million and $18.49 million.

My money is on a deal that is either worth $260 million per year ($18.30986/school) or a deal that is worth $262.5 million per year ($18.48592/school) because those are the most clean-cut numbers in the range, assuming that ND gets a 20% share and that there are 14 full shares, and people tend to like clean-cut numbers. Either way, I think that calling it $18.5 million is marginally more accurate, but I'm admittedly splitting hairs.

I wasn't trying to get specific. I just figured it paid 14 teams 1 million more and one team somewhere between 3.5-4 million. So 18 was meant to be a generalization.

OHHHHHH, I thought you meant 18 million/school/year (in total payout includeing other schools' contributions), not 18 million total/yr.

Be careful guys. Your wildly speculative math will soon be refuted with someone else's make up math that will prove that the ACC is doomed, DOOMED I tell ye.

(04-10-2013 09:03 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Be careful guys. Your wildly speculative math will soon be refuted with someone else's make up math that will prove that the ACC is doomed, DOOMED I tell ye.

(04-10-2013 08:59 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 07:26 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 07:17 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(04-10-2013 04:14 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  So Notre Dame is worth somewhere around 18 million to the ACC it seems.

It is funny to see all the hate about the ACC deal on here.

A few thoughts I have. Notre Dame will be of help improving the ACC's lineup in the upcoming bowl game reshuffle that is bound to happen. Yes they get a share just like Duke does. Unlike Duke they actually help secure bigger name bowls for the conference. They do get to keep their BCS money. They always have gotten to keep it so I am not too bent out of shape over it. If they make the Orange Bowl the ACC gets more money.

Notre Dame never has played Virginia Tech. Now we have Notre Dame on the schedule every three years. Most of the fans are pretty excited about that.

Notre Dame's Olympic sports are some of the strongest in the country. They'll help add quality content to any potential channel that might be started.

Of course it would be better if they were a football member. Having the choice between the current arrangement and no affiliation, I would choose the current agreement every time. We all get paid, access to better bowls, high quality opponent in Olympic sports, and a game against ND every three years. I don't see any downsides.

+1

But for what it's worth, the current deal is worth just over $17.14 million, and he said "over" a million, so the next deal will be worth $18.15+ million. I could be reading too much into this, but I'm assuming that "just over" a million implies anywhere between 1.15 million to 1.35 million, otherwise I think they would have said either a million, or about a million. I say .15+, because the current deal, which is worth $17.14..., is usually referred to as being worth $17 million, so clearly the $0.14... million is too trivial to mention. I capped it at .35 because if it was $0.5 million, I think that he would have said and "a half," and .5 - .15 (a trivial amount) = .35. That means I think the new deal will be worth between $18.29 million and $18.49 million.

My money is on a deal that is either worth $260 million per year ($18.30986/school) or a deal that is worth $262.5 million per year ($18.48592/school) because those are the most clean-cut numbers in the range, assuming that ND gets a 20% share and that there are 14 full shares, and people tend to like clean-cut numbers. Either way, I think that calling it $18.5 million is marginally more accurate, but I'm admittedly splitting hairs.

I wasn't trying to get specific. I just figured it paid 14 teams 1 million more and one team somewhere between 3.5-4 million. So 18 was meant to be a generalization.

OHHHHHH, I thought you meant 18 million/school/year (in total payout includeing other schools' contributions), not 18 million total/yr.

It happens to work out both ways. Near 18 million total increase resulting in an 18 million-ish payout per team.

Guys, it's a done deal. Notre Dame will most likely get the top bowl slot for the ACC every year. At that point, any revenue Notre Dame makes on that top bowl, is their money. Cincinnati also made 2 million in BCS bowl appearences in the Big East in 2009 because it had to share the other 15 million with the football league. That was not the top bowl either, but one of the five BCS games. That's why Notre Dame only made 2 million this year. They would have made 23 million on that game if they had been a member of the ACC. Other ACC schools will get nothing. I agree that having Notre Dame and appearing with Notre Dame on TV and with Notre Dame at ones stadium will help the cause for all ACC teams, but Notre Dame joined the ACC to get the most bang out of their situation and to help Notre Dame. Notre Dame is not in the ACC to help the ACC and it's membership. Period. That's also why Notre Dame is not in the BIG. BIG would not give them a nickel more than other teams and they would be playing on an even field with everyone else. Most likely the schedule also was not what Notre Dame wanted. Notre Dame wanted more possibilities with non conference teams and rivals. That was the second reason Notre Dame did not go with BIG.

(04-14-2013 06:06 AM)Vewb1 Wrote:  Guys, it's a done deal. Notre Dame will most likely get the top bowl slot for the ACC every year. At that point, any revenue Notre Dame makes on that top bowl, is their money. Cincinnati also made 2 million in BCS bowl appearences in the Big East in 2009 because it had to share the other 15 million with the football league. That was not the top bowl either, but one of the five BCS games. That's why Notre Dame only made 2 million this year. They would have made 23 million on that game if they had been a member of the ACC. Other ACC schools will get nothing. I agree that having Notre Dame and appearing with Notre Dame on TV and with Notre Dame at ones stadium will help the cause for all ACC teams, but Notre Dame joined the ACC to get the most bang out of their situation and to help Notre Dame. Notre Dame is not in the ACC to help the ACC and it's membership. Period. That's also why Notre Dame is not in the BIG. BIG would not give them a nickel more than other teams and they would be playing on an even field with everyone else. Most likely the schedule also was not what Notre Dame wanted. Notre Dame wanted more possibilities with non conference teams and rivals. That was the second reason Notre Dame did not go with BIG.

this

Sounds like you guys don't understand the agreement. ND only gets money from the ACC if it takes one of the tie ins below playoff and access bowls. If ND makes a big bowl, they're not taking an ACC slot and they keep the money. When the ACC makes it, the ACC keeps the money and doesn't share it with ND.

How is it considered hate on the ACC to post factual stuff about the ACC...fwiw I don't have a problem with the ND add, I think its good for the conference and its members...but I do have a problem with the ACC putting itself on a pedestal that doesn't exist with its broad based statements regarding revenue sharing...and then turning around and selling out to ND.

The ACC shouldnt put itself out there to be criticized by making ridiculous statements about its supposed strength as a conference. Hell, even the $50 million exit fee that it touted a year ago is being challenged in court a year later. Nothing against the fans here, blame your conference office for basically flat out lying to the general public.

(04-14-2013 07:16 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  How is it considered hate on the ACC to post factual stuff about the ACC...fwiw I don't have a problem with the ND add, I think its good for the conference and its members...but I do have a problem with the ACC putting itself on a pedestal that doesn't exist with its broad based statements regarding revenue sharing...and then turning around and selling out to ND.

The ACC shouldnt put itself out there to be criticized by making ridiculous statements about its supposed strength as a conference. Hell, even the $50 million exit fee that it touted a year ago is being challenged in court a year later. Nothing against the fans here, blame your conference office for basically flat out lying to the general public.

A couple of things with this post:

1) You have to look at the big picture with the ND add. If ND should ever join a conference in football they will likely pick the ACC. Having 5 games of ND is worth way more than adding a UCONN or Cincy.

2) Why shouldn't the ACC discuss their strength? It is about to become the best basketball conference in the nation, their football teams are finally starting to be nationally relevant again, and they just signed on for 5 games a year against ND which no conference has ever had.

(04-14-2013 07:29 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 07:16 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  How is it considered hate on the ACC to post factual stuff about the ACC...fwiw I don't have a problem with the ND add, I think its good for the conference and its members...but I do have a problem with the ACC putting itself on a pedestal that doesn't exist with its broad based statements regarding revenue sharing...and then turning around and selling out to ND.

The ACC shouldnt put itself out there to be criticized by making ridiculous statements about its supposed strength as a conference. Hell, even the $50 million exit fee that it touted a year ago is being challenged in court a year later. Nothing against the fans here, blame your conference office for basically flat out lying to the general public.

A couple of things with this post:

1) You have to look at the big picture with the ND add. If ND should ever join a conference in football they will likely pick the ACC. Having 5 games of ND is worth way more than adding a UCONN or Cincy.

2) Why shouldn't the ACC discuss their strength? It is about to become the best basketball conference in the nation, their football teams are finally starting to be nationally relevant again, and they just signed on for 5 games a year against ND which no conference has ever had.

I'll do my best to provide default board commentary...ahem

1. Notre Dame is baaad mmmmmkay *Mr. Mackey voice
2. ACC should be shaking in their boots as FSU, UNC, DUKE, CLEMSON, GT are leaving the conference tomorrow for the Intergalactic Athletic Conference. They'll shock the world by replacing those schools with TEXAS, FLORIDA, GEORGIA, USC and OKLAHOMA but those schools will undoubtedly leave before ever playing a down as the aforementioned IAC is looking to start it's own conference network. Projections are $100,000,000 per school annually...so as you can see...it's a no brainer.

(04-14-2013 06:06 AM)Vewb1 Wrote:  Guys, it's a done deal. Notre Dame will most likely get the top bowl slot for the ACC every year. At that point, any revenue Notre Dame makes on that top bowl, is their money. Cincinnati also made 2 million in BCS bowl appearences in the Big East in 2009 because it had to share the other 15 million with the football league. That was not the top bowl either, but one of the five BCS games. That's why Notre Dame only made 2 million this year. They would have made 23 million on that game if they had been a member of the ACC. Other ACC schools will get nothing. I agree that having Notre Dame and appearing with Notre Dame on TV and with Notre Dame at ones stadium will help the cause for all ACC teams, but Notre Dame joined the ACC to get the most bang out of their situation and to help Notre Dame. Notre Dame is not in the ACC to help the ACC and it's membership. Period. That's also why Notre Dame is not in the BIG. BIG would not give them a nickel more than other teams and they would be playing on an even field with everyone else. Most likely the schedule also was not what Notre Dame wanted. Notre Dame wanted more possibilities with non conference teams and rivals. That was the second reason Notre Dame did not go with BIG.

You are seriously misinfomed.


http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=628863&page=8

(04-14-2013 09:11 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 06:06 AM)Vewb1 Wrote:  Guys, it's a done deal. Notre Dame will most likely get the top bowl slot for the ACC every year. At that point, any revenue Notre Dame makes on that top bowl, is their money. Cincinnati also made 2 million in BCS bowl appearences in the Big East in 2009 because it had to share the other 15 million with the football league. That was not the top bowl either, but one of the five BCS games. That's why Notre Dame only made 2 million this year. They would have made 23 million on that game if they had been a member of the ACC. Other ACC schools will get nothing. I agree that having Notre Dame and appearing with Notre Dame on TV and with Notre Dame at ones stadium will help the cause for all ACC teams, but Notre Dame joined the ACC to get the most bang out of their situation and to help Notre Dame. Notre Dame is not in the ACC to help the ACC and it's membership. Period. That's also why Notre Dame is not in the BIG. BIG would not give them a nickel more than other teams and they would be playing on an even field with everyone else. Most likely the schedule also was not what Notre Dame wanted. Notre Dame wanted more possibilities with non conference teams and rivals. That was the second reason Notre Dame did not go with BIG.

You are seriously misinfomed.


http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=628863&page=8

Is FSU,Clemson and Ga Tech thrilled by the arrival of ND in the ACC?
I think not.

(04-14-2013 11:08 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 09:11 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 06:06 AM)Vewb1 Wrote:  Guys, it's a done deal. Notre Dame will most likely get the top bowl slot for the ACC every year. At that point, any revenue Notre Dame makes on that top bowl, is their money. Cincinnati also made 2 million in BCS bowl appearences in the Big East in 2009 because it had to share the other 15 million with the football league. That was not the top bowl either, but one of the five BCS games. That's why Notre Dame only made 2 million this year. They would have made 23 million on that game if they had been a member of the ACC. Other ACC schools will get nothing. I agree that having Notre Dame and appearing with Notre Dame on TV and with Notre Dame at ones stadium will help the cause for all ACC teams, but Notre Dame joined the ACC to get the most bang out of their situation and to help Notre Dame. Notre Dame is not in the ACC to help the ACC and it's membership. Period. That's also why Notre Dame is not in the BIG. BIG would not give them a nickel more than other teams and they would be playing on an even field with everyone else. Most likely the schedule also was not what Notre Dame wanted. Notre Dame wanted more possibilities with non conference teams and rivals. That was the second reason Notre Dame did not go with BIG.

You are seriously misinfomed.


http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=628863&page=8

Is FSU,Clemson and Ga Tech thrilled by the arrival of ND in the ACC?
I think not.

Really? Do you have anything to back that claim?

(04-14-2013 11:08 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 09:11 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 06:06 AM)Vewb1 Wrote:  Guys, it's a done deal. Notre Dame will most likely get the top bowl slot for the ACC every year. At that point, any revenue Notre Dame makes on that top bowl, is their money. Cincinnati also made 2 million in BCS bowl appearences in the Big East in 2009 because it had to share the other 15 million with the football league. That was not the top bowl either, but one of the five BCS games. That's why Notre Dame only made 2 million this year. They would have made 23 million on that game if they had been a member of the ACC. Other ACC schools will get nothing. I agree that having Notre Dame and appearing with Notre Dame on TV and with Notre Dame at ones stadium will help the cause for all ACC teams, but Notre Dame joined the ACC to get the most bang out of their situation and to help Notre Dame. Notre Dame is not in the ACC to help the ACC and it's membership. Period. That's also why Notre Dame is not in the BIG. BIG would not give them a nickel more than other teams and they would be playing on an even field with everyone else. Most likely the schedule also was not what Notre Dame wanted. Notre Dame wanted more possibilities with non conference teams and rivals. That was the second reason Notre Dame did not go with BIG.

You are seriously misinfomed.


http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=628863&page=8

Is FSU,Clemson and Ga Tech thrilled by the arrival of ND in the ACC?
I think not.

Go ask them and let us know the results of your representative and unbiased poll.

(04-14-2013 01:20 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 11:08 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 09:11 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 06:06 AM)Vewb1 Wrote:  Guys, it's a done deal. Notre Dame will most likely get the top bowl slot for the ACC every year. At that point, any revenue Notre Dame makes on that top bowl, is their money. Cincinnati also made 2 million in BCS bowl appearences in the Big East in 2009 because it had to share the other 15 million with the football league. That was not the top bowl either, but one of the five BCS games. That's why Notre Dame only made 2 million this year. They would have made 23 million on that game if they had been a member of the ACC. Other ACC schools will get nothing. I agree that having Notre Dame and appearing with Notre Dame on TV and with Notre Dame at ones stadium will help the cause for all ACC teams, but Notre Dame joined the ACC to get the most bang out of their situation and to help Notre Dame. Notre Dame is not in the ACC to help the ACC and it's membership. Period. That's also why Notre Dame is not in the BIG. BIG would not give them a nickel more than other teams and they would be playing on an even field with everyone else. Most likely the schedule also was not what Notre Dame wanted. Notre Dame wanted more possibilities with non conference teams and rivals. That was the second reason Notre Dame did not go with BIG.

You are seriously misinfomed.


http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=628863&page=8

Is FSU,Clemson and Ga Tech thrilled by the arrival of ND in the ACC?
I think not.

Go ask them and let us know the results of your representative and unbiased poll.

FSU has been constantly seeking a new home in either the SEC or B10.

Ga Tech looks like a candidate for the B10.They constantly complain about how they are treated in the ACC.

Also UMD took off from the ACC even with ND joining the ACC.

Thus what ever ND fans think they did for the ACC lots of ACC would rather be elsewhere.

Then there is UVA are they likely to join the ACC.

Of course there are schools in the ACC who like ND:BC,Syracuse,Pitt,Louisville,Wake Forest and Duke.

And so it continues.....
Fans that would give their left nut to be a member of a conference attacking the conference they pine for.
CJ

(04-14-2013 02:14 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 01:20 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 11:08 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 09:11 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 06:06 AM)Vewb1 Wrote:  Guys, it's a done deal. Notre Dame will most likely get the top bowl slot for the ACC every year. At that point, any revenue Notre Dame makes on that top bowl, is their money. Cincinnati also made 2 million in BCS bowl appearences in the Big East in 2009 because it had to share the other 15 million with the football league. That was not the top bowl either, but one of the five BCS games. That's why Notre Dame only made 2 million this year. They would have made 23 million on that game if they had been a member of the ACC. Other ACC schools will get nothing. I agree that having Notre Dame and appearing with Notre Dame on TV and with Notre Dame at ones stadium will help the cause for all ACC teams, but Notre Dame joined the ACC to get the most bang out of their situation and to help Notre Dame. Notre Dame is not in the ACC to help the ACC and it's membership. Period. That's also why Notre Dame is not in the BIG. BIG would not give them a nickel more than other teams and they would be playing on an even field with everyone else. Most likely the schedule also was not what Notre Dame wanted. Notre Dame wanted more possibilities with non conference teams and rivals. That was the second reason Notre Dame did not go with BIG.

You are seriously misinfomed.


http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=628863&page=8

Is FSU,Clemson and Ga Tech thrilled by the arrival of ND in the ACC?
I think not.

Go ask them and let us know the results of your representative and unbiased poll.

FSU has been constantly seeking a new home in either the SEC or B10.

Ga Tech looks like a candidate for the B10.They constantly complain about how they are treated in the ACC.

Also UMD took off from the ACC even with ND joining the ACC.

Thus what ever ND fans think they did for the ACC lots of ACC would rather be elsewhere.

Then there is UVA are they likely to join the ACC.

Of course there are schools in the ACC who like ND:BC,Syracuse,Pitt,Louisville,Wake Forest and Duke.

You're about 60 years late, but I agree about UVA joining the ACC. I think at this point in time, 60 years after the fact, we can lock that up as a sure thing. I bet Duke, UNC, Wake Forest, Clemson, and NC State join too. What can I say? I'm feeling lucky

The rest of your post consists of a mixture of accurate statements and rampant rumors. You correctly point out that UMD left, that FSU would rather be in the SEC (suprise), and that a number of schools are happy with the ACC. However, the rest of your post consists of rumors that originated in West Virginia.

(04-14-2013 02:44 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 02:14 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 01:20 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 11:08 AM)Rich52c Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 09:11 AM)TerryD Wrote:  You are seriously misinfomed.


http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=628863&page=8

Is FSU,Clemson and Ga Tech thrilled by the arrival of ND in the ACC?
I think not.

Go ask them and let us know the results of your representative and unbiased poll.

FSU has been constantly seeking a new home in either the SEC or B10.

Ga Tech looks like a candidate for the B10.They constantly complain about how they are treated in the ACC.

Also UMD took off from the ACC even with ND joining the ACC.

Thus what ever ND fans think they did for the ACC lots of ACC would rather be elsewhere.

Then there is UVA are they likely to join the ACC.

Of course there are schools in the ACC who like ND:BC,Syracuse,Pitt,Louisville,Wake Forest and Duke.

You're about 60 years late, but I agree about UVA joining the ACC. I think at this point in time, 60 years after the fact, we can lock that up as a sure thing. I bet Duke, UNC, Wake Forest, Clemson, and NC State join too. What can I say? I'm feeling lucky

The rest of your post consists of a mixture of accurate statements and rampant rumors. You correctly point out that UMD left, that FSU would rather be in the SEC (suprise), and that a number of schools are happy with the ACC. However, the rest of your post consists of rumors that originated in West Virginia.

Would NC St rather be in the SEC?
Would Va Tech rather be in the SEC?

Is it a rumor that B12 gets a better tv payout than the ACC?

The real happy schools in the ACC are ND,Pitt,Louisville,Bc,Syracuse former BE schools.Also the others besides ND are not likely to be offered by the top conferences B10,B12 or SEC.(tv and national championship)
Also the schools like Duke and Wake Forest also have no likely offers due to their strength in football and 30 k stadiums.These are not rumors.