(03-23-2013 04:20 PM)PittsburghBucs Wrote: In what context? That's all I'm asking.
If he said "We will never win against a BCS team here," then forget my defense of him earlier. He's a defeatest.
If he said "The odds are stacked against us whenever we play a BCS team. It's tough to beat 'em." Guess what? That's factual and I agree with him.
But you'll excuse me if after 10 years I know for a fact the above two yahoo posters are unreliable and have agendas. Heck, RodSpin had Bartow "throwing his assistants under the bus" this week.
Again, I ask, did I miss something? Anybody get canned yesterday? No?
And, Fan1, all due respect, but you're not exactly objective when it comes to Bartow, either.
So I think I'll go straight to the source.
Yeah, please see if Jay can give you the exact quote. As I wrote in the other thread, I think it was, literally, "You're not going to win those games." He was making excuses for the bad record this year, no longer able to go on and on about "I've won 20 games every year I've been here except one" crap. He was talking about how tough the schedule was, that those were money games, and with losing 3 seniors, there were just reasons for the poor record.
And sure, some of that is true, but the W/L record doesn't *begin* to tell the story. But it was definitely in a "defeatist" frame of reference; no doubt about it. And one could hear it in his voice, too.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, for the sake of my detente agreement with Mr. Goldfinger, that you're not referring to me as one of the "yahoo posters" who's "unreliable". Everyone here knows you're the one who makes stuff up, so you're WAY off base almost whoever you're referring to. We're giving you a direct "quote". Remember on the old board when you were caught incorrectly quoting someone, using quotes, no less, you played it off as "paraphrasing"? Well, this is not like that. This is not paraphrasing. Those were his words.
Please let us know, if Jay has that tape (and I dare say he does), exactly what it says. Please. *We* know what he said, now we just want to hear *you* admit that we correctly heard, and correctly reported, what he actually said.
Even better, see if you can upload a clip of it to this board.