(03-18-2013 10:14 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Why would the B12 do this if the ACC is doomed? I don't get it? They must be lying.

A WVU fan told me this is a Trojan Horse by the B12.

(03-18-2013 11:25 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-18-2013 10:14 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Why would the B12 do this if the ACC is doomed? I don't get it? They must be lying.

A WVU fan told me this is a Trojan Horse by the B12.

(03-18-2013 05:01 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  I see commissioner Dodds is hitting all the standard talking points....poor little guys

But here's an interesting tidbit:

First he says that a league like the B12 with 10 teams with no title game are better than 12 or 14 team leagues because they have an easier path to the title game than the bigger leagues do.

But NOW he turns around and says the Big 12 is a harder path than the SEC because we are a 14 team league.

Sure Deloss, keep trying to convince the folks of Texas you play in the tougher league than the SEC but that league shouldn't expand because its the easier path to the title than the SEC is....

Must have the washer set on "Extra High Spin Cycle"

I don't think it is that inconsistent. If you are undefeated regular season, it is an easier path to the championship game (or final four) since there is no league championship game to get derailed, but at the same time it is harder to go undefeated regular season since you play everyone and don't miss a potentially top opponent from the other division.

Some interesting comments from Dodds. Certainly puts to rest this rumor from yesterday that the Big-12 is going to be forced to go to 12.

(03-19-2013 10:56 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(03-18-2013 05:01 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  I see commissioner Dodds is hitting all the standard talking points....poor little guys

But here's an interesting tidbit:

First he says that a league like the B12 with 10 teams with no title game are better than 12 or 14 team leagues because they have an easier path to the title game than the bigger leagues do.

But NOW he turns around and says the Big 12 is a harder path than the SEC because we are a 14 team league.

Sure Deloss, keep trying to convince the folks of Texas you play in the tougher league than the SEC but that league shouldn't expand because its the easier path to the title than the SEC is....

Must have the washer set on "Extra High Spin Cycle"

I don't think it is that inconsistent. If you are undefeated regular season, it is an easier path to the championship game (or final four) since there is no league championship game to get derailed, but at the same time it is harder to go undefeated regular season since you play everyone and don't miss a potentially top opponent from the other division.

Some interesting comments from Dodds. Certainly puts to rest this rumor from yesterday that the Big-12 is going to be forced to go to 12.

An Alliance if both are sincere could serve both leagues very well...but it is extremely clear that Texas doesn't want to expand...

(03-19-2013 11:20 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 10:56 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(03-18-2013 05:01 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  I see commissioner Dodds is hitting all the standard talking points....poor little guys

But here's an interesting tidbit:

First he says that a league like the B12 with 10 teams with no title game are better than 12 or 14 team leagues because they have an easier path to the title game than the bigger leagues do.

But NOW he turns around and says the Big 12 is a harder path than the SEC because we are a 14 team league.

Sure Deloss, keep trying to convince the folks of Texas you play in the tougher league than the SEC but that league shouldn't expand because its the easier path to the title than the SEC is....

Must have the washer set on "Extra High Spin Cycle"

I don't think it is that inconsistent. If you are undefeated regular season, it is an easier path to the championship game (or final four) since there is no league championship game to get derailed, but at the same time it is harder to go undefeated regular season since you play everyone and don't miss a potentially top opponent from the other division.

Some interesting comments from Dodds. Certainly puts to rest this rumor from yesterday that the Big-12 is going to be forced to go to 12.

An Alliance if both are sincere could serve both leagues very well...but it is extremely clear that Texas doesn't want to expand...

I think Texas and Dodds gets scapegoated a bit here. Sure they are looking out for #1 (like everyone is on some level), but I think there is more consensus amongst the Big 12 schools about expansion than the CW would indicate.

(03-19-2013 11:42 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 11:20 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 10:56 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(03-18-2013 05:01 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  I see commissioner Dodds is hitting all the standard talking points....poor little guys

But here's an interesting tidbit:

First he says that a league like the B12 with 10 teams with no title game are better than 12 or 14 team leagues because they have an easier path to the title game than the bigger leagues do.

But NOW he turns around and says the Big 12 is a harder path than the SEC because we are a 14 team league.

Sure Deloss, keep trying to convince the folks of Texas you play in the tougher league than the SEC but that league shouldn't expand because its the easier path to the title than the SEC is....

Must have the washer set on "Extra High Spin Cycle"

I don't think it is that inconsistent. If you are undefeated regular season, it is an easier path to the championship game (or final four) since there is no league championship game to get derailed, but at the same time it is harder to go undefeated regular season since you play everyone and don't miss a potentially top opponent from the other division.

Some interesting comments from Dodds. Certainly puts to rest this rumor from yesterday that the Big-12 is going to be forced to go to 12.

An Alliance if both are sincere could serve both leagues very well...but it is extremely clear that Texas doesn't want to expand...

I think Texas and Dodds gets scapegoated a bit here. Sure they are looking out for #1 (like everyone is on some level), but I think there is more consensus amongst the Big 12 schools about expansion than the CW would indicate.

Fair enough...the schools that matter don't want to expand...can't really blame them because as of right now they are making a whole lotta chedda..$$$$

(03-19-2013 11:49 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 11:42 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 11:20 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 10:56 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(03-18-2013 05:01 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  I see commissioner Dodds is hitting all the standard talking points....poor little guys

But here's an interesting tidbit:

First he says that a league like the B12 with 10 teams with no title game are better than 12 or 14 team leagues because they have an easier path to the title game than the bigger leagues do.

But NOW he turns around and says the Big 12 is a harder path than the SEC because we are a 14 team league.

Sure Deloss, keep trying to convince the folks of Texas you play in the tougher league than the SEC but that league shouldn't expand because its the easier path to the title than the SEC is....

Must have the washer set on "Extra High Spin Cycle"

I don't think it is that inconsistent. If you are undefeated regular season, it is an easier path to the championship game (or final four) since there is no league championship game to get derailed, but at the same time it is harder to go undefeated regular season since you play everyone and don't miss a potentially top opponent from the other division.

Some interesting comments from Dodds. Certainly puts to rest this rumor from yesterday that the Big-12 is going to be forced to go to 12.

An Alliance if both are sincere could serve both leagues very well...but it is extremely clear that Texas doesn't want to expand...

I think Texas and Dodds gets scapegoated a bit here. Sure they are looking out for #1 (like everyone is on some level), but I think there is more consensus amongst the Big 12 schools about expansion than the CW would indicate.

Fair enough...the schools that matter don't want to expand...can't really blame them because as of right now they are making a whole lotta chedda..$$$$

Most people suggest the lower revenue schools are skeptical of expansion (Iowa St., Baylor). They're concerned about getting the maximum amount possible.

Baylor and ISU want whatever scenario keeps the only Power conference that will have them alive.

If that meant adding Eastern Washington and U of Monterey, they would go it without a seconds hesitation.

(03-19-2013 12:08 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Baylor and ISU want whatever scenario keeps the only Power conference that will have them alive.

If that meant adding Eastern Washington and U of Monterey, they would go it without a seconds hesitation.

About the only truthful thing you said on this board in awhile.

Did you go to a$m for a semester?

(03-19-2013 12:22 PM)YA! Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 12:08 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Baylor and ISU want whatever scenario keeps the only Power conference that will have them alive.

If that meant adding Eastern Washington and U of Monterey, they would go it without a seconds hesitation.

About the only truthful thing you said on this board in awhile.

Did you go to a$m for a semester?

You will learn to respect 10th Mountain's opinions.

(03-19-2013 12:57 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 12:22 PM)YA! Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 12:08 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Baylor and ISU want whatever scenario keeps the only Power conference that will have them alive.

If that meant adding Eastern Washington and U of Monterey, they would go it without a seconds hesitation.

About the only truthful thing you said on this board in awhile.

Did you go to a$m for a semester?

You will learn to respect 10th Mountain's opinions.

10th Mountain=Fort Drum, NY=Freezing...lol

Damn right is!

Fort Drum only has 2 seasons: winter and July!

And Froggy, that truth there that applies to ISU and BU applies to you too.

(03-19-2013 03:02 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Damn right is!

Fort Drum only has 2 seasons: winter and July!

And Froggy, that truth there that applies to ISU and BU applies to you too.

And that's that...

(03-18-2013 04:33 PM)Maize Wrote:  Interesting piece...one thing is certain...Texas doesn't want to go past 10 schools...

But they could use some inventory for the LHN. Since ESPN owns the content for the ACC and the LHN it is a marriage made in heaven.

(03-19-2013 06:02 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(03-18-2013 04:33 PM)Maize Wrote:  Interesting piece...one thing is certain...Texas doesn't want to go past 10 schools...

But they could use some inventory for the LHN. Since ESPN owns the content for the ACC and the LHN it is a marriage made in heaven.

It fits. And it fits better than a lot of the other scenarios. But, it can't be just an alliance. It needs to be a marriage.

(03-18-2013 04:35 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(03-18-2013 04:33 PM)Maize Wrote:  Interesting piece...one thing is certain...Texas doesn't want to go past 10 schools...

Nope and Deloss and Jack Swarbrick(ACC) are trying to kill all expansion.

I hope they fund a way to pull it off.

(03-19-2013 03:02 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Damn right is!

Fort Drum only has 2 seasons: winter and July!

And Froggy, that truth there that applies to ISU and BU applies to you too.

My summer cottage is about 25 mins from the main gate at Ft Drum...10th MTN is correct the area is the ice box of NY State. However it is awesome weather wise from mid April to mid October...I usually open my cottage in early/mid May and close it by Columbus Day weekend. Winter is another story. Some reason cold air can settle in there and can sometimes be 15-30 degrees colder at night than Syracuse 75 miles to the south.

But god bless the soldiers of Ft Drum...that post has more than paid its share in sacrifice for our country the last decade. When I'm out and about I try to thank the soldiers when I see them around the town.

(03-20-2013 08:19 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 03:02 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Damn right is!

Fort Drum only has 2 seasons: winter and July!

And Froggy, that truth there that applies to ISU and BU applies to you too.

My summer cottage is about 25 mins from the main gate at Ft Drum...10th MTN is correct the area is the ice box of NY State. However it is awesome weather wise from mid April to mid October...I usually open my cottage in early/mid May and close it by Columbus Day weekend. Winter is another story. Some reason cold air can settle in there and can sometimes be 15-30 degrees colder at night than Syracuse 75 miles to the south.

But god bless the soldiers of Ft Drum...that post has more than paid its share in sacrifice for our country the last decade. When I'm out and about I try to thank the soldiers when I see them around the town.

My friend is from Watertown. Needless to say, she now lives in Tampa...lol Awesome scenery though!

(03-19-2013 07:03 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 06:02 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(03-18-2013 04:33 PM)Maize Wrote:  Interesting piece...one thing is certain...Texas doesn't want to go past 10 schools...

But they could use some inventory for the LHN. Since ESPN owns the content for the ACC and the LHN it is a marriage made in heaven.

It fits. And it fits better than a lot of the other scenarios. But, it can't be just an alliance. It needs to be a marriage.

It will work because ESPN wants it to work.

(03-23-2013 10:41 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 07:03 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 06:02 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(03-18-2013 04:33 PM)Maize Wrote:  Interesting piece...one thing is certain...Texas doesn't want to go past 10 schools...

But they could use some inventory for the LHN. Since ESPN owns the content for the ACC and the LHN it is a marriage made in heaven.

It fits. And it fits better than a lot of the other scenarios. But, it can't be just an alliance. It needs to be a marriage.

It will work because ESPN wants it to work.

Why would they want to share their sole product with one that Fox has a large stake in?