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(02-12-2013 12:35 PM)rebounder2u Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:42 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:41 AM)rebounder2u Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:16 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 11:14 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  sad situation.

And one that I couldn't care less about.

Back to the important topic of the day

Come on you must care about the youth of today, and a society where nothing is wrong or important.

There are plenty of OCS threads here, and this one was what you thought it was when you opened it.

I care about young people throwing their lives away, I care that my family or I may meet one of the young people who throw their lives away.

Its important that society, care about our youth, because if we dont pay attention we will pay now are later, for our disinterest.

Try not to take a post on an internet message board so seriously.

I usually don't, but I can't find humor in everything, kids robbing, killing, raping and pillaging the village just isn't funny to me.

I always make it personal, and say what if... and but by the grace of God...

There are plenty of funny things out there, but this is not funny to me... or the victim, and I believe the parents of the victim and the suspected players parents dont see humor in ruin lives...But to each his own.

Must've missed the part where they killed and raped someone.

Bammer isn't paying their players enough.


I do feel for their parents, though.

(02-12-2013 01:51 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  An important descriptive point is that all 4 were freshmen or RS freshmen - new guys to the program and perhaps the first in their families to go to college at all. It is sad that they have apparently squandered their opportunity to improve their lives through a college experience, but we have noted before, a large majority of those athletes who get into these troubles are freshmen or sophomores, almost never juniors or seniors who have internalized the advantages offered to them - in return for their good behavior. One has to wonder how many times their behavior was covered up in high school based on their athletic prowess and the hopes they would get college scholarships taking them away from their local influences. It should be noted that many more who come from such places don't get into these kinds of troubles than those who do. It indicates to me that the colleges need to make a greater effort to get all new students into counseling to hurry the internalization of understanding what good behavior at college can do for their future.

It begins the minute somebody identifies him as talented. F. Scott Fitzgerald said, "The rich are different." The same is true for the talented.

(02-12-2013 12:35 PM)rebounder2u Wrote:  I can't find humor in everything, kids robbing, killing, raping and pillaging the village just isn't funny to me.

Give me a break with the "kid" stuff. I didn't read anything about any "kids" in those articles. What I did read about was a big, strong, highly skilled athlete beating someone unconcsious and then robbing him while his buddies watched and did nothing to stop it. They don't sound like kids to me.

(02-12-2013 02:05 PM)BlazerGrad88 Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 12:35 PM)rebounder2u Wrote:  I can't find humor in everything, kids robbing, killing, raping and pillaging the village just isn't funny to me.

Give me a break with the "kid" stuff. I didn't read anything about any "kids" in those articles. What I did read about was a big, strong, highly skilled athlete beating someone unconcsious and then robbing him while his buddies watched and did nothing to stop it. They don't sound like kids to me.

Exactly. It's funny how they are "men" when we are recruiting them or cheering them on in athletics, but the minute they get in trouble, they become "kids" or even "children" as someone referred to college athletes in another thread"

How long until Troy and Jax St contact them about transferring?

(02-12-2013 02:23 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 02:05 PM)BlazerGrad88 Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 12:35 PM)rebounder2u Wrote:  I can't find humor in everything, kids robbing, killing, raping and pillaging the village just isn't funny to me.

Give me a break with the "kid" stuff. I didn't read anything about any "kids" in those articles. What I did read about was a big, strong, highly skilled athlete beating someone unconcsious and then robbing him while his buddies watched and did nothing to stop it. They don't sound like kids to me.

Exactly. It's funny how they are "men" when we are recruiting them or cheering them on in athletics, but the minute they get in trouble, they become "kids" or even "children" as someone referred to college athletes in another thread"

All 4 are someone's "children" or "kids" and those parents are perhaps very confused right now how their "children" came to behave in such ways. If the court decides to try them as adults, they will probably wind up in prison on those charges. (The state does not need 4 more convicts "doing time" in our understaffed prisons) One has a "prior" so he could be in REAL trouble.

Whether one calls them "kids" or "children" is not the important point. This is not the only case of its kind in colleges across America so it points to the need for all schools to question if their own programs of freshmen orientations and counseling are sufficient to their needs, particularly with athletes who are fawned over so much in our culture so they may get the idea that rules for others don't apply to them..

If the court decides to try them as adults? They ARE adults, not 14 year olds.

Beating someone unconsious, then taking the backpack with his laptop computer is not a childish "prank".

thoughts go out to the kid who got robbed and beaten up, obviously I wish we knew more on why the bama players attacked this kid but still my heart goes out to the victim......and I'm using kid as a general term don't get your panties in a bunch

(02-12-2013 02:55 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  If the court decides to try them as adults? They ARE adults, not 14 year olds.

Beating someone unconsious, then taking the backpack with his laptop computer is not a childish "prank".

What they did was very serious, but the courts in Alabama don't just look at age to determine whether to try "as an adult" or something less damaging. The court can rule them to be less than adults if there are mitigating reasons. We shall see how this case plays out.

The players involved will remain on the team until Saban can figure out how to flip 4 more Auburn signees to replace them.

(02-12-2013 01:47 PM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:   How stupid can you be?

Well, there's stupid, and then there's Gump stupid...

(02-12-2013 02:50 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 02:23 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 02:05 PM)BlazerGrad88 Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 12:35 PM)rebounder2u Wrote:  I can't find humor in everything, kids robbing, killing, raping and pillaging the village just isn't funny to me.

Give me a break with the "kid" stuff. I didn't read anything about any "kids" in those articles. What I did read about was a big, strong, highly skilled athlete beating someone unconcsious and then robbing him while his buddies watched and did nothing to stop it. They don't sound like kids to me.

Exactly. It's funny how they are "men" when we are recruiting them or cheering them on in athletics, but the minute they get in trouble, they become "kids" or even "children" as someone referred to college athletes in another thread"

All 4 are someone's "children" or "kids" and those parents are perhaps very confused right now how their "children" came to behave in such ways. If the court decides to try them as adults, they will probably wind up in prison on those charges. (The state does not need 4 more convicts "doing time" in our understaffed prisons) One has a "prior" so he could be in REAL trouble.

Whether one calls them "kids" or "children" is not the important point. This is not the only case of its kind in colleges across America so it points to the need for all schools to question if their own programs of freshmen orientations and counseling are sufficient to their needs, particularly with athletes who are fawned over so much in our culture so they may get the idea that rules for others don't apply to them..

Or just stop fawning over them. What were you saying about their parents being confused right now?

(02-12-2013 02:50 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 02:23 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 02:05 PM)BlazerGrad88 Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 12:35 PM)rebounder2u Wrote:  I can't find humor in everything, kids robbing, killing, raping and pillaging the village just isn't funny to me.

Give me a break with the "kid" stuff. I didn't read anything about any "kids" in those articles. What I did read about was a big, strong, highly skilled athlete beating someone unconcsious and then robbing him while his buddies watched and did nothing to stop it. They don't sound like kids to me.

Exactly. It's funny how they are "men" when we are recruiting them or cheering them on in athletics, but the minute they get in trouble, they become "kids" or even "children" as someone referred to college athletes in another thread"

All 4 are someone's "children" or "kids" and those parents are perhaps very confused right now how their "children" came to behave in such ways. If the court decides to try them as adults, they will probably wind up in prison on those charges. (The state does not need 4 more convicts "doing time" in our understaffed prisons) One has a "prior" so he could be in REAL trouble.

Whether one calls them "kids" or "children" is not the important point. This is not the only case of its kind in colleges across America so it points to the need for all schools to question if their own programs of freshmen orientations and counseling are sufficient to their needs, particularly with athletes who are fawned over so much in our culture so they may get the idea that rules for others don't apply to them..

Sir, this isn't the flippin' precivil rights Abalama. Nowadays, suh, folks know what is right from wrong!

Beating the crap out of someone and robbing them isn't acceptable for ANY REASON. Are you seriously going to attempt to excuse this based on what you presuppose as "mitigating" circumstances from which this behavior resulted, i.e. low socioeconomic status, level of education, etc.? That would require a trip-and-fall of assumption. You would be assuming that people are doomed by "the system" and are not Innately intelligent and able to help themselves without a helping hand from the benevolent MAN. Shoot, a darned 5 year old knows right from wrong. SERIOUSLY??? If that is your take on everything, then you might as well believe that there is no such thing as right and wrong, only "circumstances" that dictate whether something is socially acceptable or unacceptable. Yeah... I'm sure a test followed by public-school counseling will certainly fix this absolute lack of parenting from which these "kids" are the product.

And let's NOT punish people for abhorrent behavior because of overcrowded prisons. That just might make prison a BAD place! GOOD FREAKIN GRIEF!!! Your broken-record reasoning keeps playing the same scratched song. It is well past time that you allow your mind to jump from the civil rights era Alabama to the new millennium... A time when you can believe that people do posses the intellect and reasoning that allows them to DEVELOP past the evils of earlier generations. But, I suppose giving them the benefit of the doubt must also entail giving them responsibility and accountability for THEIR OWN ACTIONS!!! That, ladies and gentleman, is the true liberal plantation. It's a state of mind that excuses and blames rather than EMPOWERS!!!
Total freakin' moral relativism... If you truly believe that, then it is the FIRST step in social unravelling with eventual societal collapse as the ultimate outcome. Typical.

He wanted to trim the roster.

(02-12-2013 03:50 PM)USAFBlazerFan Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 02:50 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 02:23 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 02:05 PM)BlazerGrad88 Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 12:35 PM)rebounder2u Wrote:  I can't find humor in everything, kids robbing, killing, raping and pillaging the village just isn't funny to me.

Give me a break with the "kid" stuff. I didn't read anything about any "kids" in those articles. What I did read about was a big, strong, highly skilled athlete beating someone unconcsious and then robbing him while his buddies watched and did nothing to stop it. They don't sound like kids to me.

Exactly. It's funny how they are "men" when we are recruiting them or cheering them on in athletics, but the minute they get in trouble, they become "kids" or even "children" as someone referred to college athletes in another thread"

All 4 are someone's "children" or "kids" and those parents are perhaps very confused right now how their "children" came to behave in such ways. If the court decides to try them as adults, they will probably wind up in prison on those charges. (The state does not need 4 more convicts "doing time" in our understaffed prisons) One has a "prior" so he could be in REAL trouble.

Whether one calls them "kids" or "children" is not the important point. This is not the only case of its kind in colleges across America so it points to the need for all schools to question if their own programs of freshmen orientations and counseling are sufficient to their needs, particularly with athletes who are fawned over so much in our culture so they may get the idea that rules for others don't apply to them..

Sir, this isn't the flippin' precivil rights Abalama. Nowadays, suh, folks know what is right from wrong!

Beating the crap out of someone and robbing them isn't acceptable for ANY REASON. Are you seriously going to attempt to excuse this based on what you presuppose as "mitigating" circumstances from which this behavior resulted, i.e. low socioeconomic status, level of education, etc.? That would require a trip-and-fall of assumption. You would be assuming that people are doomed by "the system" and are not Innately intelligent and able to help themselves without a helping hand from the benevolent MAN. Shoot, a darned 5 year old knows right from wrong. SERIOUSLY??? If that is your take on everything, then you might as well believe that there is no such thing as right and wrong, only "circumstances" that dictate whether something is socially acceptable or unacceptable. Yeah... I'm sure a test followed by public-school counseling will certainly fix this absolute lack of parenting from which these "kids" are the product.

And let's NOT punish people for abhorrent behavior because of overcrowded prisons. That just might make prison a BAD place! GOOD FREAKIN GRIEF!!! Your broken-record reasoning keeps playing the same scratched song. It is well past time that you allow your mind to jump from the civil rights era Alabama to the new millennium... A time when you can believe that people do posses the intellect and reasoning that allows them to DEVELOP past the evils of earlier generations. But, I suppose giving them the benefit of the doubt must also entail giving them responsibility and accountability for THEIR OWN ACTIONS!!! That, ladies and gentleman, is the true liberal plantation. It's a state of mind that excuses and blames rather than EMPOWERS!!!
Total freakin' moral relativism... If you truly believe that, then it is the FIRST step in social unravelling with eventual societal collapse as the ultimate outcome. Typical.

You mean you still read what Bamanblazerfan writes?

Nope. Not anymore.

(02-12-2013 03:09 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  The players involved will remain on the team until Saban can figure out how to flip 4 more Auburn signees to replace them.

Does the light blue signify partial sarcasm?

(02-12-2013 03:07 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 02:55 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  If the court decides to try them as adults? They ARE adults, not 14 year olds.

Beating someone unconsious, then taking the backpack with his laptop computer is not a childish "prank".

What they did was very serious, but the courts in Alabama don't just look at age to determine whether to try "as an adult" or something less damaging. The court can rule them to be less than adults if there are mitigating reasons. We shall see how this case plays out.

When a 14 year old shoots someone to death, the court decides whether or not they should be tried as an adult.

I see no reason that the court consider for so much as a microsecond trying these bozos as anything other than what they are - young men, sophmores in college, who have such a sense of entitlement and privilege that they thought they could beat another student unconscious and steal his laptop with impunity ...because they play football for bammer.

It is a judge who will decide the fate of these four, not a raging person(s) who is not in the judge's position. What part of "We shall see how this case plays out" makes you uncomfortable with the process?