UC TE Travis Kelce, DL Walter Stewart, WR Kenbrell Thompkins and RB George Winn have received invitations to the 2013 NFL Combine, Feb. 20-26 in Indianapolis.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/uc/2013/02/0...l-combine/

Kelce's injury? KT?? what's he done?
Walter Stewart going for it?

Very interesting. Surprised to see KT invited but I heard he showed well in one of the post-season all star games he played in. Glad to see Winn get the invite. I'll be curious to see how he does there. If he runs well he may have a shot at the next level. He's got the frame to be an NFL RB. Still no clue what's going on with Walt and his condition.

Just blew a good 30 mins going through this list.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prosp...gs/2013/TE

Check it out. 1st off, they have Kelce as a 2nd rounder (3rd best TE this year.) Winn and a few other Bearcats are in there as well. What's REALLY fascinating is that they have G. Blair as the 3rd best ILB for next year. You can see projections out for the next few years.




mc

Winn has a legit shot at getting a few years in the league. Probably as a UFA or late round pick, but I think he is as good as most of the RBs that have played for the Packers in the last 5 years. He stays low, has decent speed, doesn't fumble much, and blocks well.

If I was him though, not sure I would want to take that beating for a few years at league minimum, considering his stature and style of play.

KT has the talent to make an NFL roster. But he was just so inconsistent here at UC.

Measurement from the combine

Travis Kelce 6'4 7/8 255 lbs. 33 3/4 inch arms

(02-07-2013 08:47 PM)Mopper Wrote:  KT has the talent to make an NFL roster. But he was just so inconsistent here at UC.

We've really suffered with bad throwing QBs the last couple years with Zach and Munchie. Never saw much that made me believe in KT but for all of Kelces talent he didn't put up dominant stats either. Downside of run first QBS.

Didn't see this posted yet. Yesterday both George Winn and Kenbrell Thompkins competed at the combine.

George posted a 4.75 in the 40 which won't help him. That's in the lower quarter of all RBs. What I've seen is that people still think he can be a late-round pick that will contribute right away on special teams

Thompkins had a respectable showing, notching a 4.54 in the 40

While I wish him all the best, I can't say that I see Winn making it in the NFL. He runs far too upright, no shiftiness and too slow. Perhaps he could bulk up to make it as a FB?




mc

(02-25-2013 10:41 AM)marcuscan Wrote:  While I wish him all the best, I can't say that I see Winn making it in the NFL. He runs far too upright, no shiftiness and too slow. Perhaps he could bulk up to make it as a FB?


mc

A handful of offensive lineman had better 40 times than Winn...I was hoping he would run a 4.6 or better. 4.75 seems like a potential FB and special teams player that might make a team in free agency.

(02-21-2013 08:06 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:47 PM)Mopper Wrote:  KT has the talent to make an NFL roster. But he was just so inconsistent here at UC.

We've really suffered with bad throwing QBs the last couple years with Zach and Munchie. Never saw much that made me believe in KT but for all of Kelces talent he didn't put up dominant stats either. Downside of run first QBS.

You can thank Lyle for that crap!!! Kay got better with every snap this year after he got put in the Syracuse game as a result of Lyle being booed at Nippert for not pulling Munchie after INT. #3 or 5 ?

Any news on how Walter did?

(02-25-2013 04:09 PM)bctn8n Wrote:  Any news on how Walter did?

just read on twitter he wasnt aloud to participate.

(02-25-2013 03:59 PM)bearcat14 Wrote:  

(02-21-2013 08:06 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 08:47 PM)Mopper Wrote:  KT has the talent to make an NFL roster. But he was just so inconsistent here at UC.

We've really suffered with bad throwing QBs the last couple years with Zach and Munchie. Never saw much that made me believe in KT but for all of Kelces talent he didn't put up dominant stats either. Downside of run first QBS.

You can thank Lyle for that crap!!! Kay got better with every snap this year after he got put in the Syracuse game as a result of Lyle being booed at Nippert for not pulling Munchie after INT. #3 or 5 ?

Regarding our WR play I don't know if it was the talent, the QB play or whether it was the coaching, but our WR play consistently got worse the past three years. Say what you want about the Qb's, but Thompkins seemingly slipped and fell every time he ran a route and McClung disappeared this past year (just as DJ Wodds disappeared in 2011).

(02-25-2013 04:09 PM)bctn8n Wrote:  Any news on how Walter did?

He wasn't cleared to participate. Not exactly a big surprise.

Bearcats' Walter Stewart not allowed to work out at NFL Combine
Feb. 25, 2013 5:31 PM


Walter Stewart was born without the posterior arch of his C1 vertebra, which was discovered after he suffered a neck injury in UC's Oct. 13 win against Fordham. / Enquirer file photo

Written by
Joe Reedy

Walter Stewart's hopes of working out and impressing NFL coaches and scouts at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis never got the chance to happen.

Keith Fields, who is Stewart's foster father, said that Stewart was informed around 2:30 a.m. Monday that he would not be allowed to take part in Monday's workouts for defensive linemen and that he was red flagged medically. Stewart was born without the posterior arch of his C1 vertebra, which was discovered after he suffered a neck injury in UC's Oct. 13 win against Fordham. Stewart though did take part in interviews with teams.

Fields did say that indications are he will be cleared to participate in UC's Pro Day on March 14. Stewart will also go through another round of tests in Indianapolis in early April.

Stewart spent all day Saturday with doctors, which many expected when he received a Combine invite. Red flags in medical testing also most times don't serve as a third strike on a draft prospect. Utah defensive tackle Star Lotulelei, who could go in the first round, was not cleared to take part in workouts after an echocardiogram detected a heart condition. Lotulelei is expected to see a specialist this week but could be cleared for Utah's Pro Day on March 20.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130...RONTPAGE|p

(02-25-2013 06:02 PM)ctipton Wrote:  Bearcats' Walter Stewart not allowed to work out at NFL Combine
Feb. 25, 2013 5:31 PM


Walter Stewart was born without the posterior arch of his C1 vertebra, which was discovered after he suffered a neck injury in UC's Oct. 13 win against Fordham. / Enquirer file photo

Written by
Joe Reedy

Walter Stewart's hopes of working out and impressing NFL coaches and scouts at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis never got the chance to happen.

Keith Fields, who is Stewart's foster father, said that Stewart was informed around 2:30 a.m. Monday that he would not be allowed to take part in Monday's workouts for defensive linemen and that he was red flagged medically. Stewart was born without the posterior arch of his C1 vertebra, which was discovered after he suffered a neck injury in UC's Oct. 13 win against Fordham. Stewart though did take part in interviews with teams.

Fields did say that indications are he will be cleared to participate in UC's Pro Day on March 14. Stewart will also go through another round of tests in Indianapolis in early April.

Stewart spent all day Saturday with doctors, which many expected when he received a Combine invite. Red flags in medical testing also most times don't serve as a third strike on a draft prospect. Utah defensive tackle Star Lotulelei, who could go in the first round, was not cleared to take part in workouts after an echocardiogram detected a heart condition. Lotulelei is expected to see a specialist this week but could be cleared for Utah's Pro Day on March 20.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130...RONTPAGE|p

It's been all up hill since UC balked on a waiver sought by Walt, and his dad.
I'am pretty sure they were able to get a few to sign off, but the overwhelming evidence still shows that the majority of teams, and the league are in agreements that it's to great of a liability....Sucks for Walt, And I know Keith just wants his son to get his opportunity....They will probably be cleared to participate in UC's pro day, but not unless they are willing to sign a complete waiver which will almost assuredly include a statute covering his entire career at UC.

(02-26-2013 08:37 AM)bearcat14 Wrote:  

(02-25-2013 06:02 PM)ctipton Wrote:  Bearcats' Walter Stewart not allowed to work out at NFL Combine
Feb. 25, 2013 5:31 PM


Walter Stewart was born without the posterior arch of his C1 vertebra, which was discovered after he suffered a neck injury in UC's Oct. 13 win against Fordham. / Enquirer file photo

Written by
Joe Reedy

Walter Stewart's hopes of working out and impressing NFL coaches and scouts at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis never got the chance to happen.

Keith Fields, who is Stewart's foster father, said that Stewart was informed around 2:30 a.m. Monday that he would not be allowed to take part in Monday's workouts for defensive linemen and that he was red flagged medically. Stewart was born without the posterior arch of his C1 vertebra, which was discovered after he suffered a neck injury in UC's Oct. 13 win against Fordham. Stewart though did take part in interviews with teams.

Fields did say that indications are he will be cleared to participate in UC's Pro Day on March 14. Stewart will also go through another round of tests in Indianapolis in early April.

Stewart spent all day Saturday with doctors, which many expected when he received a Combine invite. Red flags in medical testing also most times don't serve as a third strike on a draft prospect. Utah defensive tackle Star Lotulelei, who could go in the first round, was not cleared to take part in workouts after an echocardiogram detected a heart condition. Lotulelei is expected to see a specialist this week but could be cleared for Utah's Pro Day on March 20.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130...RONTPAGE|p

It's been all up hill since UC balked on a waiver sought by Walt, and his dad.
I'am pretty sure they were able to get a few to sign off, but the overwhelming evidence still shows that the majority of teams, and the league are in agreements that it's to great of a liability....Sucks for Walt, And I know Keith just wants his son to get his opportunity....They will probably be cleared to participate in UC's pro day, but not unless they are willing to sign a complete waiver which will almost assuredly include a statute covering his entire career at UC.

Look, i'm know it's exceedingly easy for me to sit here and question the merit of continuing this pursuit. I get that. I haven't had that as my dream my entire life, yadda yadda yadda. I put that disclaimer out there just to say, I wonder if any of this is truly worth it considering the risk? Football is so violent. I'd just be extremely leery going in to a situation with such an injury/ birth defect.






mc

From a team standpoint (college and pro), I understand the liability concerns in these litigious times. Even a signed waiver from the athlete might not hold up in court. So even if a team's best opinion based upon their medical reports is that it isn't a serious problem, they still have to ask whether it's worth taking on the financial risk if something should happen.

But I don't especially get all the fans who think they know best that he shouldn't play. To me it's pretty clear he'll have a ton of expert opinions to help with his decision and clearly some highly rated doctors think it shouldn't prevent him from playing (despite the fact they are similarly incentivized to say he shouldn't play). As long as HE understands the potential risks, I support his decision either way. If his preference continues to be to play, I hope he gets the opportunity.

(02-26-2013 02:21 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  From a team standpoint (college and pro), I understand the liability concerns in these litigious times. Even a signed waiver from the athlete might not hold up in court. So even if a team's best opinion based upon their medical reports is that it isn't a serious problem, they still have to ask whether it's worth taking on the financial risk if something should happen.

But I don't especially get all the fans who think they know best that he shouldn't play. To me it's pretty clear he'll have a ton of expert opinions to help with his decision and clearly some highly rated doctors think it shouldn't prevent him from playing (despite the fact they are similarly incentivized to say he shouldn't play). As long as HE understands the potential risks, I support his decision either way. If his preference continues to be to play, I hope he gets the opportunity.

Well, I haven't heard the names of any physicians who think he can still safely play, so I'm not sure if they're highly rated or not. Besides the physicians at UC I also believe that James Andrews may have given the thumbs down on a second opinion during this past season. Plus, regardless of Walter understanding the risks, asking an organization to also take the risk of having a dead player on the field may be too much for most to bear with regards to potential liability, conscience, and bad pr.