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USM Tennis sanctions regrettable but accepted
It is sad to read about the illegal activities by tennis coaches at USM and to see that we were imposed punishment for them. What is good to see is the school did impose some sanctions on itself and that shows the schools doesn't endorse the activities that went on. I deeply regret that it happened and am sadden to find out about it, but also I believe such will not be allowed to happen again at Southern Miss.
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They get caught hittin deer antler too?
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http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/artic...USM-tennis

Quote:After a 30-month investigation into alleged improprieties in the men’s tennis program, the National Collegiate Athletic Association concluded that former head tennis coach Teddy Viator and assistant tennis coach Marc Lux had acted unethically and then failed to cooperate as required in the investigation.

The NCAA also determined that USM had failed to properly monitor the program, helping enable the wrongdoings that ensued.
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I honestly don't believe any college athletics program that self-imposes sanctions REALLY regrets the act...they regret being caught.

Same goes for UCF. We imposed the sanctions because we got caught, not because we regret cheating. No integrity in any level of athletics these days, if ever.
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It's tennis...if you aren't doing something to stroke someone, you get stroked...more to this than anyone will know

I would bet almost every school at the olympic level is doing similar things at various levels....the only way the NCAA finds out is when you have a whistle blower from your side...again, it's tennis.
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So we are selling a home football game to Nebraska & taking up murderer's row this year in football to make up for a shortfall in athletic budget and all this while we've been playing in international tennis tourneys and paying a player to play a non-revenue sport? Brilliant!

Thanks a lot, Richard Giannini for this tennis oversight, women's basketball Joye Lee debacle and of course the women's softball fiasco. All under your watch. You must be mister no-balls when it comes to managing women b/c the track record is really crappy there eunuch boy. You mumblemouth MF'er; glad you are history and wish you were far, far away from Hattiesburg. You should visit the Japanese Suicide Forest & take some notes.

Well, at least this reads better than being busted for giving a recruit a ham and a sweatshirt. If we are going to cheat, however - let's cheat in a men's sport that people actually care about and we may benefit from. I vote we cheat our ass off in baseball and basketball going forward...
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yall cheat at tennis? the croquet team better watch thier arses
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(01-31-2013 08:15 PM)shere khan Wrote:  yall cheat at tennis? the croquet team better watch thier arses

We must not cheat like those Tigers do in basketball...we suck in tennis!
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WOW, so they just don't bust Boise State.
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(01-31-2013 08:53 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(01-31-2013 08:15 PM)shere khan Wrote:  yall cheat at tennis? the croquet team better watch thier arses

We must not cheat like those Tigers do in basketball...we suck in tennis!

ah we only get caught every 20 years or so, its worth it
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(01-31-2013 08:10 PM)GatorEagle Wrote:  So we are selling a home football game to Nebraska & taking up murderer's row this year in football to make up for a shortfall in athletic budget and all this while we've been playing in international tennis tourneys and paying a player to play a non-revenue sport? Brilliant!

Thanks a lot, Richard Giannini for this tennis oversight, women's basketball Joye Lee debacle and of course the women's softball fiasco. All under your watch. You must be mister no-balls when it comes to managing women b/c the track record is really crappy there eunuch boy. You mumblemouth MF'er; glad you are history and wish you were far, far away from Hattiesburg. You should visit the Japanese Suicide Forest & take some notes.

Well, at least this reads better than being busted for giving a recruit a ham and a sweatshirt. If we are going to cheat, however - let's cheat in a men's sport that people actually care about and we may benefit from. I vote we cheat our ass off in baseball and basketball going forward...

What was the softball fiasco?
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I have never heard of a tennis team getting sanctioned before...
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What was the softball fiasco?
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http://www.conferenceusa.com/sports/w-so...00aaa.html

From what I understood, she wanted to stay but Mumble-no-nuts denied a $5K raise to her assistant and told her to hit the skids and go to UGA. Go ask our most famous player Courtney Blades how she feels about the situation. I'm sure there is more than meets the eye & made the press.

Meanwhile, we are paying Joye Lee Redneck way too much to TTT it in women's hoops. She should be endeared to Kay James' private parts in that regard, because she totally sucks it up as our coach and only got her chance due to Kay. We should have docked her pay & given it to Lu. Joye's mojo worked in Memphis and she probably should have stayed there, because she hasn't done a damn thing here except Brett Favre's laundry BITD.

I could be wrong - but #4 in the nation in anything is nothing to sneeze at. That is the softball snafu. Not that any of it is a revenue generating sport to begin with.
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What was the softball fiasco?
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http://www.conferenceusa.com/sports/w-so...00aaa.html

From what I understood, she wanted to stay but Mumble-no-nuts denied a $5K raise to her assistant and told her to hit the skids and go to UGA. Go ask our most famous player Courtney Blades how she feels about the situation. I'm sure there is more than meets the eye & made the press.

Meanwhile, we are paying Joye Lee Redneck way too much to TTT it in women's hoops. She should be endeared to Kay James' private parts in that regard, because she totally sucks it up as our coach and only got her chance due to Kay. We should have docked her pay & given it to Lu. Joye's mojo worked in Memphis and she probably should have stayed there, because she hasn't done a damn thing here except Brett Favre's laundry BITD.

I could be wrong - but #4 in the nation in anything is nothing to sneeze at. That is the softball snafu. Not that any of it is a revenue generating sport to begin with.
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You must be from Meridian. Only 2 meridian guys show that much venum for her on rivals. Either that or your kids played for thelocal "christian" school who have a clear and set agenda.

For the record, she has taken a pay cut and lost a chunk of her budget which both were already the lowest in the league. after winning 3 out of her last 4 with 2 of those away from home, and a likely wnit bid at the end of the year, the mojo just might still be there.

She didnt get her chance because of anyone other than herself and the players she signed as an assstant here and what she did at memphis. Im sure you would have bitched if she had taken one of the 2 cusa jobs she has gotten phone calls about in the recent past.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/southern-mi...--spt.html

Hey we made yahoo news with this! LOL
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I was a student when USM was being investigated and got hit with probation for football back in 1982. I don't know what happened in this case but I can tell you that it is tough to be able to regulate everything, and while that is no excuse nor is it meant to be, it does happen. The sad part us usually the ones who pay the price are the ones who had nothing to do with the problem, just like Bobby Collins caused some really good athletes at USM to miss bowl games because of the violations we were hit with. I can debate what went on then but like most things that are past, it is better to just take it and let it be what it was. I will say some of the violations we were guilty of and some maybe not. It is never great when you have someone break the rules and sadly it is done too much. At ASU the baseball program got hit thanks to some stupidity from the coach and some talented players got to miss the playoffs that had nothing to do with the situation. I wish there could be a more fair way and innocents don't have to pay and the guilty get off or not suffer from it very much.
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You must be from Meridian. Only 2 meridian guys show that much venum for her on rivals. Either that or your kids played for thelocal "christian" school who have a clear and set agenda.

For the record, she has taken a pay cut and lost a chunk of her budget which both were already the lowest in the league. after winning 3 out of her last 4 with 2 of those away from home, and a likely wnit bid at the end of the year, the mojo just might still be there.

She didnt get her chance because of anyone other than herself and the players she signed as an assstant here and what she did at memphis. Im sure you would have bitched if she had taken one of the 2 cusa jobs she has gotten phone calls about in the recent past.
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I'm originally from Memphis, a USM alumnus from '96. My wife and I have no children. We live in South Florida.

I see no progress in Joye's tenure here. Kay James worked with less and did more at USM during her tenure. Period. I'm sure Kay made less than Joye, even after any "pay cut."

Joye did great at UM. Honestly, she should have stayed there. She could have been arguing for the budget, recruiting, yada yada. No fault in that. She is stupid if she doesn't pursue other opportunities that pay more. You can't retire on goodwill, and unless she wants Strick's wings to subsidize retirement meals, then that is her own problem to deal with.

My point is that it doesn't matter; why spend any more money than we have to on a non-revenue sport at USM that doesn't produce? Women's basketball makes no money at the vast majority of universities. It doesn't count to the budget income line at all.
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You must be from Meridian. Only 2 meridian guys show that much venum for her on rivals. Either that or your kids played for thelocal "christian" school who have a clear and set agenda.

For the record, she has taken a pay cut and lost a chunk of her budget which both were already the lowest in the league. after winning 3 out of her last 4 with 2 of those away from home, and a likely wnit bid at the end of the year, the mojo just might still be there.

She didnt get her chance because of anyone other than herself and the players she signed as an assstant here and what she did at memphis. Im sure you would have bitched if she had taken one of the 2 cusa jobs she has gotten phone calls about in the recent past.
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I'm originally from Memphis, an alumnus from '96. My wife and I have no children. We live in South Florida.

I see no progress in Joye's tenure here. Kay James worked with less and did more at USM during her tenure. Period. I'm sure Kay made less than Joye, even after any "pay cut."

Joye did great at UM. Honestly, she should have stayed there. She could have been arguing for the budget, recruiting, yada yada. No fault in that. She is stupid if she doesn't pursue other opportunities that pay more. You can't retire on goodwill, and unless she wants Strick's wings to subsidize retirement meals, then that is her own problem to deal with.

My point is that it doesn't matter; why spend any more money than we have to on a non-revenue sport at USM that doesn't produce? Women's basketball makes no money at the vast majority of universities. It doesn't count to the budget income line at all.
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In a sports world where money is everything its funny to see why she decided to come here. Her parents were driving from picayune to memphis for every home game at an advanced age. She wanted her children to grow up closer to them, so she and her husband took a huge cut in pay to come back tohattiesburg. Its funny because a guy named John calaperri talked a mutual booster of um and usm into dropping a large chunk of cash in hattiesburg to make her deal work so she could be hired.

The womens game has changed a great deal since Kay was here. There wasnt womens games on tv 3 nights a week. Title 9 hadnt taken full effect so othe schools hae to put more money into womens sports. The perception of what conference your in and your facilities didnt exist then. It effects womens bb just as much if not more than it does in football.

When the events that lead to the stark lawsuit happened. GJH wanted all ath dept employees to join the eagle club. Only 3 were at the time. JLM was one of those 3 and had been yealy since she was an assistant.

Its sad that folks who dont support the program constantly ***** about it while the person they ***** about is more loyal than the bitchers. While you were ranting about what you "think" she did. Her team was winning its 2nd conf road game of the year over uab who has a win over our ncaa team UTEP.
Last week the cusa player of the week was Jamerria Faulkner who is to 10 in the nation in assists and steals. By the way shes from Florida as is 3 of our signin class for next year. One is a espn top 100.

Study a little before you start bitching

PS UT and UCONN lose over a million a year on womens hoops. But to play d1 football, you gotta have it.
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Its funny because a guy named John calaperri talked a mutual booster of um and usm into dropping a large chunk of cash in hattiesburg to make her deal work so she could be hired.

Quote:AWESOME! You know Mr. Carlisle then. I understand. He is a great USM'er. Nice spelling of Calipari BTW-


The womens game has changed a great deal since Kay was here. There wasnt womens games on tv 3 nights a week. Title 9 hadnt taken full effect so othe schools hae to put more money into womens sports.


Quote:Yes, and that is a mistake in my opinion. Sorry, but just my lone opinion.



When the events that lead to the stark lawsuit happened. GJH wanted all ath dept employees to join the eagle club. Only 3 were at the time. JLM was one of those 3 and had been yealy since she was an assistant.


Quote:Stark is a whore *****. She can die an early death with a quickness.


Its sad that folks who dont support the program constantly ***** about it while the person they ***** about is more loyal than the bitchers. While you were ranting about what you "think" she did.


Study a little before you start bitching

Quote:I'm not bitching, my point is I don't care. Sorry that me and 100 million other people don't follow women's hoops. It's a fact. Same thing why we're not in a major conference in football. Sucks, but it's reality.


PS UT and UCONN lose over a million a year on womens hoops. But to play d1 football, you gotta have it.


Quote:**** UT and UConn. UT has an old ass coach with alzheimers that is suing the university and UConn - well, we'll see how that goes. They are leaving the Big East soon anyway.
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(01-31-2013 04:15 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  I honestly don't believe any college athletics program that self-imposes sanctions REALLY regrets the act...they regret being caught.

Same goes for UCF. We imposed the sanctions because we got caught, not because we regret cheating. No integrity in any level of athletics these days, if ever.

USM didn't get caught. They discovered and reported the violations without any outside investigation.

I've been wondering what the overall, non-tennis implications of this are.
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