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(01-03-2013 11:14 AM)Complacent Cajun Wrote:  
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(01-03-2013 07:33 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  How about this: Stop causing confusion on the CUSA board by referring to your school as the University of Louisville, or UL. If you people at ULL are so insecure about your school that you won't use its proper and legal name, why would CUSA want anything to do with it?

Yeah, really; and all those people at Nebraska-Lincoln need to do the same. Give Nebraska-Omaha its due. It's just pathetic.

Nebraska-Lincoln was founded as the "University of Nebraska" before Omaha existed. Lincoln is the Flagship school in Nebraska. ULL and ULM were given their names together with the agreement they would use the L and M or the Lafayette and Monroe. There is no flagship of the UL system but one school is going back on their agreement trying to make themselves sound as if they are.
Agree 100%. I have the same problem with Southwest Texas State. Be proud of who you are instead of pretending to be something you are not.

I'm not ashamed of my school. I have tons of USL gear that I hang proudly. My degree says University of Louisiana at Lafayette - and I'm also proud of that. I think our city is one of the finest in the state, and I display it in extra large font size on my resume. It's just second nature for us to refer to ourselves as UL and is basically verbal short hand.

I'm not just going to start calling ourselves ULL and Louisiana Lafayette in everyday conversations because people are worried about us having some agenda of being the de facto flagship university of the UL system. Now, as far as branding our athletics teams as Louisiana - that is legal and I support it 100%.

The only way you're going to get us to refer to ourselves as ULL is to inject about 200,000 people into Lafayette with the sole purpose of saying ULL in every conversation for the next 10-15 years. It's ingrained into our culture, I'm evidence of that.


Does the Lafayette message board still auto correct ULL to UL and Louisiana-Lafayette to Louisiana?
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(01-03-2013 11:28 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 11:14 AM)Complacent Cajun Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 10:49 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 10:13 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 09:57 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Yeah, really; and all those people at Nebraska-Lincoln need to do the same. Give Nebraska-Omaha its due. It's just pathetic.

Nebraska-Lincoln was founded as the "University of Nebraska" before Omaha existed. Lincoln is the Flagship school in Nebraska. ULL and ULM were given their names together with the agreement they would use the L and M or the Lafayette and Monroe. There is no flagship of the UL system but one school is going back on their agreement trying to make themselves sound as if they are.
Agree 100%. I have the same problem with Southwest Texas State. Be proud of who you are instead of pretending to be something you are not.

I'm not ashamed of my school. I have tons of USL gear that I hang proudly. My degree says University of Louisiana at Lafayette - and I'm also proud of that. I think our city is one of the finest in the state, and I display it in extra large font size on my resume. It's just second nature for us to refer to ourselves as UL and is basically verbal short hand.

I'm not just going to start calling ourselves ULL and Louisiana Lafayette in everyday conversations because people are worried about us having some agenda of being the de facto flagship university of the UL system. Now, as far as branding our athletics teams as Louisiana - that is legal and I support it 100%.

The only way you're going to get us to refer to ourselves as ULL is to inject about 200,000 people into Lafayette with the sole purpose of saying ULL in every conversation for the next 10-15 years. It's ingrained into our culture, I'm evidence of that.


Does the Louisiana message board still auto correct UL to UL and Louisiana to Louisiana?

What do you mean?
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(01-03-2013 10:14 AM)Complacent Cajun Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 07:33 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 01:15 AM)Ragin Cajun 2012 Wrote:  The SugarBowl only had 6k more in attendance - what more do you want from us CUSA?
How about this: Stop causing confusion on the CUSA board by referring to your school as the University of Louisville, or UL. If you people at ULL are so insecure about your school that you won't use its proper and legal name, why would CUSA want anything to do with it?

I'm a younger Cajun fan, and grew up referring to the school as UL - as does everyone south of Alexandria. No one if trying to ruffle your feathers through the internet. My apologies for confusing so easily.
You are an idiot if you really believe that ULL is known as UL by everyone south of Alexandria, LA. I live in Baton Rouge, and my work takes me all across south Louisiana. I assure you that you are mistaken about this. The simple truth is, nobody outside of Acadiana gives a hoot what ULL calls itself. There is no flagship university in the University of Louisiana System of Higher Education because the State of Louisiana does not permit the U of L System to have one. If it did, chances are pretty good that it would be LA Tech, the one university in the U of L System that is a Tier I University. ULL is avery fitting name for you guys, as most of you seem to live in la la land.
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(01-03-2013 11:14 AM)Complacent Cajun Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 10:49 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 10:13 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 09:57 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 07:33 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  How about this: Stop causing confusion on the CUSA board by referring to your school as the University of Louisville, or UL. If you people at ULL are so insecure about your school that you won't use its proper and legal name, why would CUSA want anything to do with it?

Yeah, really; and all those people at Nebraska-Lincoln need to do the same. Give Nebraska-Omaha its due. It's just pathetic.

Nebraska-Lincoln was founded as the "University of Nebraska" before Omaha existed. Lincoln is the Flagship school in Nebraska. ULL and ULM were given their names together with the agreement they would use the L and M or the Lafayette and Monroe. There is no flagship of the UL system but one school is going back on their agreement trying to make themselves sound as if they are.
Agree 100%. I have the same problem with Southwest Texas State. Be proud of who you are instead of pretending to be something you are not.

I'm not ashamed of my school. I have tons of USL gear that I hang proudly. My degree says University of Louisiana at Lafayette - and I'm also proud of that. I think our city is one of the finest in the state, and I display it in extra large font size on my resume. It's just second nature for us to refer to ourselves as UL and is basically verbal short hand.

I'm not just going to start calling ourselves ULL and Louisiana Lafayette in everyday conversations because people are worried about us having some agenda of being the de facto flagship university of the UL system. Now, as far as branding our athletics teams as Louisiana - that is legal and I support it 100%.

The only way you're going to get us to refer to ourselves as ULL is to inject about 200,000 people into Lafayette with the sole purpose of saying ULL in every conversation for the next 10-15 years. It's ingrained into our culture, I'm evidence of that.

It was USL until just over ten years ago. I still refer to it that way sometimes. Hard to believe it's ingrained into a culture in such a short time.
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(01-03-2013 11:35 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 10:14 AM)Complacent Cajun Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 07:33 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 01:15 AM)Ragin Cajun 2012 Wrote:  The SugarBowl only had 6k more in attendance - what more do you want from us CUSA?
How about this: Stop causing confusion on the CUSA board by referring to your school as the University of Louisville, or UL. If you people at ULL are so insecure about your school that you won't use its proper and legal name, why would CUSA want anything to do with it?

I'm a younger Cajun fan, and grew up referring to the school as UL - as does everyone south of Alexandria. No one if trying to ruffle your feathers through the internet. My apologies for confusing so easily.
You are an idiot if you really believe that ULL is known as UL by everyone south of Alexandria, LA. I live in Baton Rouge, and my work takes me all across south Louisiana. I assure you that you are mistaken about this. The simple truth is, nobody outside of Acadiana gives a hoot what ULL calls itself. There is no flagship university in the University of Louisiana System of Higher Education because the State of Louisiana does not permit the U of L System to have one. If it did, chances are pretty good that it would be LA Tech, the one university in the U of L System that is a Tier I University. ULL is avery fitting name for you guys, as most of you seem to live in la la land.

I'm an idiot, yet your brain hurts when trying to differentiate between UL being either Louisville or Louisiana Lafayette. You must got into a coma when you see UT or USC abbreviated. Sorry again for making you think, that **** is hard to do.
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If y'all want to have a pissing contest about names, by all means start another thread. It's exhausting and you waste other people's time. Maybe I'll go to Ragin Pagin and ask which is more important: moving to what is perceived as a more influential conference or being known as UL. But until then, I don't care.

Most of the feedback seems to be positive regarding perceptions of Louisiana-Lafayette. Makes me feel
Positive about our future.
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(01-03-2013 11:56 AM)KirkT Wrote:  If y'all want to have a pissing contest about names, by all means start another thread. It's exhausting and you waste other people's time. Maybe I'll go to Ragin Pagin and ask which is more important: moving to what is perceived as a more influential conference or being known as UL. But until then, I don't care.

Most of the feedback seems to be positive regarding perceptions of Louisiana-Lafayette. Makes me feel
Positive about our future.

ONLY LA Tech is arguing about our name. This is directed to the LA Tech poster who, on the one hand, says nobody cares about our name, then he is suicidal when we call ourselves Louisiana or UL. His insecurities are showing. The UL System does not have a Flagship university. Even though LSU is head of its own system and has nothing to do with the UL System, LSU is pretty much declared the only Flagship university of the entire state including both systems. So, not to worry LA Tech. Louisiana is not jockying for position to become a flagship. We just want our own identity. Louisiana Monroe has branded itself as ULM. Louisiana Lafayette has branded itself as Louisiana. Like Nevada Las Vegas is UNLV and Nevada Reno is Nevada. These name threads are rediculous and are perpetuated by people like you who make every effort to discredit us before other CUSA members in hope that Louisiana will be rejected by the conference. Fortunately, conference membership isn't decided by people on this board, but by the university Presidents. Look, the Cajun Nation is united in calling ourselves Louisiana. Fight it all you want, but it will not change what we call ourselves. Just let the other readers of this board have a little peace when discussing Louisiana athletics and don't make a name issue every time you post.
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(01-03-2013 12:24 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 11:56 AM)KirkT Wrote:  If y'all want to have a pissing contest about names, by all means start another thread. It's exhausting and you waste other people's time. Maybe I'll go to Ragin Pagin and ask which is more important: moving to what is perceived as a more influential conference or being known as UL. But until then, I don't care.

Most of the feedback seems to be positive regarding perceptions of Louisiana-Lafayette. Makes me feel
Positive about our future.

Like Nevada Las Vegas is UNLV and Nevada Reno is Nevada.

"When the University plays in sports against in-state rival, the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, the school's name is decided by the home team. When the game is held in Reno, it reads UNLV vs Nevada, however, if held in Las Vegas it reads, UNLV vs UNR. At the 2012 rivalry game at UNLV's Sam Boyd Stadium in Las Vegas, the score board read Rebels vs. Pack, completely avoiding the UNLV vs. Nevada (or UNR) debate."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Nevada,_Reno

At least UNR was around for almost 100 years before UNLV and UNLV was founded as an extension of UNR. It makes more sense with them.
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(01-03-2013 12:24 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 11:56 AM)KirkT Wrote:  If y'all want to have a pissing contest about names, by all means start another thread. It's exhausting and you waste other people's time. Maybe I'll go to Ragin Pagin and ask which is more important: moving to what is perceived as a more influential conference or being known as UL. But until then, I don't care.

Most of the feedback seems to be positive regarding perceptions of Louisiana-Lafayette. Makes me feel
Positive about our future.

ONLY LA Tech is arguing about our name. This is directed to the LA Tech poster who, on the one hand, says nobody cares about our name, then he is suicidal when we call ourselves Louisiana or UL. His insecurities are showing. The UL System does not have a Flagship university. Even though LSU is head of its own system and has nothing to do with the UL System, LSU is pretty much declared the only Flagship university of the entire state including both systems. So, not to worry LA Tech. Louisiana is not jockying for position to become a flagship. We just want our own identity. Louisiana Monroe has branded itself as ULM. Louisiana Lafayette has branded itself as Louisiana. Like Nevada Las Vegas is UNLV and Nevada Reno is Nevada. These name threads are rediculous and are perpetuated by people like you who make every effort to discredit us before other CUSA members in hope that Louisiana will be rejected by the conference. Fortunately, conference membership isn't decided by people on this board, but by the university Presidents. Look, the Cajun Nation is united in calling ourselves Louisiana. Fight it all you want, but it will not change what we call ourselves. Just let the other readers of this board have a little peace when discussing Louisiana athletics and don't make a name issue every time you post.

Don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely down with the branding. I just wanted to avoid the inevitable UL/ULL squabble. That's why I titled the thread in the manner I did.

And not meaning to sound like a kiss-up, but you are without a doubt the best message board advocate I have seen for our Unuversity. I really learn from your posts and hope others do as well.
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Y'all both should of just stayed USL and NLU, life would've been much simpler.
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(01-03-2013 12:35 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  Y'all both should of just stayed USL and NLU, life would've been much simpler.

Those holidays sitting at home must have been nice for La Tech?

Also you guys are only Tier I in US News and Report, the SREB and Carnagie ranking in which the UL System actually cares about does not have you guys as Tier I.

I also understand why La Tech doesn't want Louisiana in the same conference as them. Ruston simply cannot compare to Lafayette or can La Tech provide the same type of college experience as Louisiana Lafayette.

You guys have done everything in your power to avoid the same conference affiliation for over a decade. You guys have kicked our ass in recruiting, aside from HUD's arrival, for the previous 10-15 years selling your opponents not on Ruston, but on the opportunity to play Boise St and Fresno St.

Your days are numbered and we will kick La Tech's ass in 2 years when we are a Senior laden team just like y'all were this year.
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(01-03-2013 12:47 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 12:35 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  Y'all both should of just stayed USL and NLU, life would've been much simpler.

Those holidays sitting at home must have been nice for La Tech?

Also you guys are only Tier I in US News and Report, the SREB and Carnagie ranking in which the UL System actually cares about does not have you guys as Tier I.

I also understand why La Tech doesn't want Louisiana in the same conference as them. Ruston simply cannot compare to Lafayette or can La Tech provide the same type of college experience as Louisiana Lafayette.

You guys have done everything in your power to avoid the same conference affiliation for over a decade. You guys have kicked our ass in recruiting, aside from HUD's arrival, for the previous 10-15 years selling your opponents not on Ruston, but on the opportunity to play Boise St and Fresno St.

Your days are numbered and we will kick La Tech's ass in 2 years when we are a Senior laden team just like y'all were this year.
Wow a "you didn't go to a bowl game slam" to start off your rebuttal! You ULL'ers are so original. I don't have anything against ULL, I'm sure it's a fine school and south Louisiana is all right too though I prefer north Louisiana. I'm just tired of hearing ULM complaining about how y'all are not using your legal name to refer to your university. And you're 100% right I don't want to be in a conference with y'all. I want my school to have Big 12 or SEC ambitions even if it's a pipe dream. Y'all have TWO bowl seasons and y'all are acting like Notre Dame.
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OMG,

A Louisianna name thread on the CUSA board. I thought I MIGHT of escaped these, but apparently not.
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(01-03-2013 01:05 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 12:47 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 12:35 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  Y'all both should of just stayed USL and NLU, life would've been much simpler.

Those holidays sitting at home must have been nice for La Tech?

Also you guys are only Tier I in US News and Report, the SREB and Carnagie ranking in which the UL System actually cares about does not have you guys as Tier I.

I also understand why La Tech doesn't want Louisiana in the same conference as them. Ruston simply cannot compare to Lafayette or can La Tech provide the same type of college experience as Louisiana Lafayette.

You guys have done everything in your power to avoid the same conference affiliation for over a decade. You guys have kicked our ass in recruiting, aside from HUD's arrival, for the previous 10-15 years selling your opponents not on Ruston, but on the opportunity to play Boise St and Fresno St.

Your days are numbered and we will kick La Tech's ass in 2 years when we are a Senior laden team just like y'all were this year.
Wow a "you didn't go to a bowl game slam" to start off your rebuttal! You ULL'ers are so original. I don't have anything against ULL, I'm sure it's a fine school and south Louisiana is all right too though I prefer north Louisiana. I'm just tired of hearing ULM complaining about how y'all are not using your legal name to refer to your university. And you're 100% right I don't want to be in a conference with y'all. I want my school to have Big 12 or SEC ambitions even if it's a pipe dream. Y'all have TWO bowl seasons and y'all are acting like Notre Dame.

La Tech has what 6 bowl games in your history, so do not act like the Bulldogs are some team that deserves to be in the Big 12 or SEC. You, and your fan base have been begging to get into CUSA since its inception so don't give me the crap about higher aspirations.

I applaud the effort the Dan Reneau and his buddy Davison for committing to athletics 15 years ago. Our president killed athletics, now we have a president who is not against athletics, although he is not a huge proponent of athletics either.

We will see what the next 10 years has in store for both programs, but I'd put my money on the Cajuns any day to have a much better overall athletic department than La Tech.
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(01-03-2013 12:32 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 12:24 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 11:56 AM)KirkT Wrote:  If y'all want to have a pissing contest about names, by all means start another thread. It's exhausting and you waste other people's time. Maybe I'll go to Ragin Pagin and ask which is more important: moving to what is perceived as a more influential conference or being known as UL. But until then, I don't care.

Most of the feedback seems to be positive regarding perceptions of Louisiana-Lafayette. Makes me feel
Positive about our future.

Like Nevada Las Vegas is UNLV and Nevada Reno is Nevada.

"When the University plays in sports against in-state rival, the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, the school's name is decided by the home team. When the game is held in Reno, it reads UNLV vs Nevada, however, if held in Las Vegas it reads, UNLV vs UNR. At the 2012 rivalry game at UNLV's Sam Boyd Stadium in Las Vegas, the score board read Rebels vs. Pack, completely avoiding the UNLV vs. Nevada (or UNR) debate."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Nevada,_Reno

At least UNR was around for almost 100 years before UNLV and UNLV was founded as an extension of UNR. It makes more sense with them.

And UL Lafayette was founded in 1898 while UL Monroe was founded in, I believe, 1935. Even Tech says ULM is just a notch above a junior college academically. It is only about branding athletically. It doesn't change our official name which our university uses in all official academic matters. Let it go. If we are fortunate to get into CUSA, Louisiana and LA Tech will co-exist as conference members. The Louisiana name will enhance CUSA moreso than Louisiana Lafayette. It helps our perception and will help CUSA as well.
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(01-03-2013 12:35 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  Y'all both should of just stayed USL and NLU, life would've been much simpler.

Yeah, and you could have stayed Louisiana Polytechnic Institute. You were using LA Tech even with that name instead of LPI. Why was that? No one from then USL disputed your using LA Tech back then and we approved your name change to LA Tech University. The same board and the same process that you used was used by us in 1984 when we were granted the University of Louisiana name, with no city tag. We had it for a semester and graduated a class with the UL name. Then, LSU reared it's ugly head and changed our university name changes occurred, despite Tech and UNO following the same process we did. Any school that is in a state where a university like LSU is the top dog and controls politics can understand, i.e. Arkansas (Ark State can attest to that). Heck, even Texas didn't inhibit SW Texas from changing it's name to Texas State. In a state with Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and Texas State, along with UTEP, names don't effect the other schools. It should not effect LA Tech either or any other school on this board that calls us ULaLa or other derogatory names instead of acknowledging our request to be called Louisiana.
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(01-03-2013 01:34 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 01:15 AM)Ragin Cajun 2012 Wrote:  The SugarBowl only had 6k more in attendance - what more do you want from us CUSA?

Back-to-back conference championships?

If CUSA loses UTEP and Tulsa to the MWC, I would hope that both stATe and Louisiana would be added as replacements.
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Im so confused. Louisia just LEFT Cusa FOr BE
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after all the only school to ever be called the University of Louisiana was Tulane
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(01-03-2013 02:05 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 01:34 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(01-03-2013 01:15 AM)Ragin Cajun 2012 Wrote:  The SugarBowl only had 6k more in attendance - what more do you want from us CUSA?

Back-to-back conference championships?

If CUSA loses UTEP and Tulsa to the MWC, I would hope that both stATe and Louisiana would be added as replacements.

There is also TxSt.
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