(12-31-2012 03:12 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 03:07 PM)pzz189 Wrote:  For real. The leftovers are going to be fat from exit fees

BSU is not going to pay any exit fees. The TV money would have had to have been more than the previous 3.5 million per year teams were getting......it's not going to be that. BSU/SDSU and the 2 texas schools have get out of jail free cards if the TV money is not enough.

Oh you'll pay $10 million and like it asshat

(12-31-2012 03:12 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 03:07 PM)pzz189 Wrote:  For real. The leftovers are going to be fat from exit fees

BSU is not going to pay any exit fees. The TV money would have had to have been more than the previous 3.5 million per year teams were getting......it's not going to be that. BSU/SDSU and the 2 texas schools have get out of jail free cards if the TV money is not enough.

"Although Boise State never spent a day in the Big East, the Broncos still must pay a $10 million exit fee to the Big East. The Mountain West is expected to help pay that fee, sources said."

suck on that

(12-31-2012 03:12 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 03:07 PM)pzz189 Wrote:  For real. The leftovers are going to be fat from exit fees

BSU is not going to pay any exit fees. The TV money would have had to have been more than the previous 3.5 million per year teams were getting......it's not going to be that. BSU/SDSU and the 2 texas schools have get out of jail free cards if the TV money is not enough.

At this point noone knows that, especially from a standpoint that would allow a team to get out of a contract. The FB tv contract is ggoing to be worth more than $3.5M anyway, so thats simply not in play.

(12-31-2012 02:58 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  Give up the ESPN conspiracy BS please. So weak.

You're not even bright enough to realize that your posts are part of the same "weak" narrative that plays out on these boards.

As for Boise, they may be gone. I'll wait until we hear an announcement though. The pundits have been throwing out unsourced innuendo for the last year. You'll have to excuse me for not jumping at every tweet like you guys.

I think this is bad news for SDSU....... they seemed to like joining the BE, but oh well...... time to confront burned bridges

(12-31-2012 02:41 PM)Bull Wrote:  BSU may well decide that running the table in a very weak MWC gets them to that BCS slot most of the time. It's decided on rankings... Much easier route there, than in the more competitive east. The trade in is their SOS will be week, so they may never get to compete for the national title.

I highly doubt it has anything to do with that. Rather, it's about an all-sports western division. Aresco has tried like hell but he just can't get the votes needed to create one and without that, Boise decided it wouldn't come after all.

I'd still like to see SDSU in the BE but the chances of that are now slim. So sorry, gents, I really wanted to see it happen but right now, your speculation is as good as mine as to which schools are manning the roadblock.

(12-31-2012 02:51 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  BE 2013 minus SDSU and BSU + Tulane and ECU

Yeah. Thats what everyone was really hoping for all along. Now if we can just get Idaho and N Mexico St and lock down 800K per team contract on Netflix we will have our dream confernece. Lets face it, this thing is dead dead dead.

(12-31-2012 03:08 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 02:57 PM)texasflood Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 02:52 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 02:47 PM)texasflood Wrote:  If true, very bad news for the nBE. But not at all unexpected.

Actually, it's bad for all the biggest programs not in the power 5, east or west. If those had joined, the result would have been reasonably close to the ACC. Now the MWC and BE will be fairly coequal, but both waaaay far from the power 5.

Seriously, the MWC will be Boise and everyone else. They think they will run the table there. It will be interesting to see where that ranks them each season.

I think Boise just made a mistake, but what do I know...

Disagree. While combining the best of the west schools with the nBE might have produced a decent conference on the field, the media/market value would still be too small to justify the big travel and logistical issues.

Separate east and west coast conferences makes more sense.

Makes more sense from a travel perspective, but that's about it. Media and markets? Take the biggest from both sides. Also spreads you out over the timezones, a very positive thing. But again, what do I know...

I don't claim to know more than you. It is just my opinion that many around here have vastly overstated the value of media markets. It is the school that has value not the market. E.g., gainesville Florida is a small market while Houston is a huge one but Florida is a far more valuable media property than UH is.

Schools like UCF and Houston were not worth much to media when in CUSA yet many around here thought they would be worth $15 million per year just because they were now in the Big East. It never made any sense, and thus we could not give Boise the money they wanted.

(12-31-2012 02:43 PM)WaveDeez Wrote:  Kinda had a feeling this would happen lol..

I couldn't decide, so I will give you both of my responses:

1. ...and it was ALL Tulane's fault. (joking ...well kind of )

2. They were scared of Tulane's awesomeness, so they decided to cower in the MWC.

(12-31-2012 03:17 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 02:58 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  Give up the ESPN conspiracy BS please. So weak.

You're not even bright enough to realize that your posts are part of the same "weak" narrative that plays out on these boards.

As for Boise, they may be gone. I'll wait until we hear an announcement though. The pundits have been throwing out unsourced innuendo for the last year. You'll have to excuse me for not jumping at every tweet like you guys.

Uh oh! Looks like someone is going to have to change their signature again

(12-31-2012 03:17 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  I highly doubt it has anything to do with that. Rather, it's about an all-sports western division. Aresco has tried like hell but he just can't get the votes needed to create one and without that, Boise decided it wouldn't come after all.

I'd still like to see SDSU in the BE but the chances of that are now slim. So sorry, gents, I really wanted to see it happen but right now, your speculation is as good as mine as to which schools are manning the roadblock.

Or more likely the MWC western teams like fresno and UNLV said no over and over to the BE and then the MWC matched the upcoming BE TV deal and ended the whole thing for good

(12-31-2012 02:57 PM)texasflood Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 02:52 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 02:47 PM)texasflood Wrote:  If true, very bad news for the nBE. But not at all unexpected.

Actually, it's bad for all the biggest programs not in the power 5, east or west. If those had joined, the result would have been reasonably close to the ACC. Now the MWC and BE will be fairly coequal, but both waaaay far from the power 5.

Seriously, the MWC will be Boise and everyone else. They think they will run the table there. It will be interesting to see where that ranks them each season.

I think Boise just made a mistake, but what do I know...

Disagree. While combining the best of the west schools with the nBE might have produced a decent conference on the field, the media/market value would still be too small to justify the big travel and logistical issues.

Separate east and west coast conferences makes more sense.

Thats just a statement made from not paying attention to the details. Seperate all-sports divisions could have easily been formed that would have limited travel to what the western teams have been doing for years in the MW with only an 800K TV contract.

(12-31-2012 03:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 03:12 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 03:07 PM)pzz189 Wrote:  For real. The leftovers are going to be fat from exit fees

BSU is not going to pay any exit fees. The TV money would have had to have been more than the previous 3.5 million per year teams were getting......it's not going to be that. BSU/SDSU and the 2 texas schools have get out of jail free cards if the TV money is not enough.

At this point noone knows that, especially from a standpoint that would allow a team to get out of a contract. The FB tv contract is ggoing to be worth more than $3.5M anyway, so thats simply not in play.

Without BSU and SDSU this is CUSA + UCONN and Temple. Thats worth a 200% increase over the contract the same teams signed last year when they were called "CUSA"?

ODU, UMass, and the best potential MAC team + ECU, Tulane in 2014.

That makes UConn Temple UMass ODU Cinci Navy + MAC team then UCF USF SMU UH ECU Tulane Memphis

(12-31-2012 03:20 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 03:17 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 02:58 PM)Bearcat_Bounce Wrote:  Give up the ESPN conspiracy BS please. So weak.

You're not even bright enough to realize that your posts are part of the same "weak" narrative that plays out on these boards.

As for Boise, they may be gone. I'll wait until we hear an announcement though. The pundits have been throwing out unsourced innuendo for the last year. You'll have to excuse me for not jumping at every tweet like you guys.

Uh oh! Looks like someone is going to have to change their signature again

That may be... But your team is in the same boat, genius.

ROFL, what a stooge.

(12-31-2012 03:19 PM)texasflood Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 03:08 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 02:57 PM)texasflood Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 02:52 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 02:47 PM)texasflood Wrote:  If true, very bad news for the nBE. But not at all unexpected.

Actually, it's bad for all the biggest programs not in the power 5, east or west. If those had joined, the result would have been reasonably close to the ACC. Now the MWC and BE will be fairly coequal, but both waaaay far from the power 5.

Seriously, the MWC will be Boise and everyone else. They think they will run the table there. It will be interesting to see where that ranks them each season.

I think Boise just made a mistake, but what do I know...

Disagree. While combining the best of the west schools with the nBE might have produced a decent conference on the field, the media/market value would still be too small to justify the big travel and logistical issues.

Separate east and west coast conferences makes more sense.

Makes more sense from a travel perspective, but that's about it. Media and markets? Take the biggest from both sides. Also spreads you out over the timezones, a very positive thing. But again, what do I know...

I don't claim to know more than you. It is just my opinion that many around here have vastly overstated the value of media markets. It is the school that has value not the market. E.g., gainesville Florida is a small market while Houston is a huge one but Florida is a far more valuable media property than UH is.

Schools like UCF and Houston were not worth much to media when in CUSA yet many around here thought they would be worth $15 million per year just because they were now in the Big East. It never made any sense, and thus we could not give Boise the money they wanted.

Please explain Rutgers and Maryland to the B1G then. It has everything to do with tv markets.

(12-31-2012 02:58 PM)monty Wrote:  So what happens on June 30th, 2013?

The Big East either dies or becomes a southeastern mini-MAC. Theres alot of negotiation to do now to save the conference. Theres no reason what so ever for a single incoming team to pay a single dime in entry fees for what remains. Hell, the way this has been handled, the existing teams should be paying the new teams just to show up and pull thier fat from the fire. Between ignoring requests for western membership, failing to create a western all-sports divisions, and publiclly campaigning for invitations for other conferences--the existing membership is very much to blame for much of the current situation. Im not sure this mess is salvagable at his point.

(12-31-2012 03:01 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  The Big East is going to be so rich off exit fees that they/we can buy a major conference and force them to take all of us.

I highly doubt SDSU is going to pay anything. In fact, I think the BE might end up paying us. IIRC, the BE owes SDSU $2M if the offer to join is rescinded. So I can see SDSU just sitting back and saying we're joining unless the BE tells us we aren't. And maybe the BE won't.

Regardless, I'm now officially sick of this crap. Whatever happens, happens and I'm fully prepared to deal with it.

(12-31-2012 03:12 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 03:07 PM)pzz189 Wrote:  For real. The leftovers are going to be fat from exit fees

BSU is not going to pay any exit fees. The TV money would have had to have been more than the previous 3.5 million per year teams were getting......it's not going to be that. BSU/SDSU and the 2 texas schools have get out of jail free cards if the TV money is not enough.

I don't think it was structured as paying nothing if certain conditions happened. I think the buyout became very minimal, along the lines of $1 million or something to back out.

(12-31-2012 03:22 PM)SleepingGiantsFan Wrote:  

(12-31-2012 03:01 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  The Big East is going to be so rich off exit fees that they/we can buy a major conference and force them to take all of us.

I highly doubt SDSU is going to pay anything. In fact, I think the BE might end up paying us. IIRC, the BE owes SDSU $2M if the offer to join is rescinded. So I can see SDSU just sitting back and saying we're joining unless the BE tells us we aren't. And maybe the BE won't.

Regardless, I'm now officially sick of this crap. Whatever happens, happens and I'm fully prepared to deal with it.

I'm with you, my bro. None of us have a say, so there's no point in getting worked up. Whatever happens, happens.