(12-28-2012 10:07 PM)Pelican Power Wrote:  The ULL guys writes:
I never said Louisiana (You are NOT Louisiana) is a Flagship university. But, at the same time, we are not at the same level as the other state schools you mentioned with the exception of LA Tech. You make us out to be some small, regional college that just happened to get lucky in football the last 2 seasons. That is a description of ULM, not Louisiana (You are NOT Louisiana). And, you are a private school so stick to your privates. And, nobody in New Orleans pays any attention to Tulane. You are a pimple on the ass of football and are only considered for conference affiliation because you are in New Orleans.

While this is not an academic board, I think it is time people understand just who Louisiana (You are NOT Louisiana) is. Some Tulane posters spew so much negative information about Louisiana (You are NOT Louisiana), I need to post the following to clear things up. Decisions on conference expansion will not be made on this board, thankfully. But, I do want people to know what is going on at Louisiana athletically and academically.

Our official name is the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, but it is now branding itself (legally) as Louisiana. Louisiana (You are NOT Louisiana) is the 2nd largest university in Louisiana, just spent $300M in on campus improvements and is about to announce a fully financed $100M Master Plan for athletics to improve all facilities and upgrade football to 52,000 seats. We sent 40,000 to the N. O. Bowl last year and were their first pick this year to return, with 45,000 Louisiana (You are NOT Louisiana) fans vs. E. Carolina. Oh yeah, we beat Big East invitees in both bowls, SDSU and ECU. BTW, ask any SDSU or ECU alum about our fans after having played us. Louisiana (You are NOT Louisiana) is a Top 377 university by Princeton Review with nationally ranked PhDs in Computer Science, Engineering, Business and Nursing. Louisiana is a Rockefeller Institute of Government Top 100 public research university. Louisiana (You are NOT Louisiana) is a Carnegie Nationally Ranked Research University with a RU/H (Research University /High Research activity) rating, similar to Ole Miss, Auburn, Baylor and Alabama. And, we are not that far from achieving true Tier 1 status. Louisiana's (You are NOT Louisiana) research level is over $65,000,000 and growing and is more than double all UL Systems schools combined (including ULM & LA Tech). Louisiana's (You are NOT Louisiana) endowment is over $145,000,000 and growing and is more than all other UL Systems schools combined (including ULM and LA Tech). Louisiana (You are NOT Louisiana) has over 17,000 students with projected enrollment to over 20,000 within 5 years. The combined statistical area per the 2010 US census has 560,000 people within 30 miles of Lafayette and over 800,000 within 50 miles of Lafayette (considered Acadiana) and doesn't include Lake Charles or Baton Rouge. Lafayette is considered the capital of Acadiana or French Louisiana.

We will be unveiling shortly an overall Master Plan for the university that will include a Master Plan for Athletics. We recently built an Indoor Practice Facility and a new Softball complex. Our Master Plan for athletics will include a complete renovation of our football stadium increasing capacity to over 50,000 with suites, a new weight room, meeting rooms, offices, merchandise store, and recruiting facility. Football has been voted the best tailgating of all non-BCS schools in the country. Additionally, a complete renovation of our baseball and T&F/Soccer facility. Baseball is already ranked in the top 15 in attendance nationally and in the Top 10 college baseball atmospheres in the country. Baseball has been to the CWS. Softball is a perennial Top 20 program and has been to the WCWS 5 times. Basketball is on the comeback and we play in a 12,500 seat Cajundome that is as nice as any in the nBE. All local bank presidents are UL(-L) alumni and former athletes and financing is in place. They already announced that all suites are sold or will be sold as soon as an announcement is made.

Louisiana (you are NOT Louisiana) has been under the rule of a dinosaur President that almost killed athletics. Our new President has changed all of that and created an Athletic Fund that is growing by leaps and bounds. We haven't scratched the potential at Louisiana (You are NOT Louisiana). Lafayette is a wealthy city. Moving to a better conference will open up the pocket books of our wealthy donors and this program will really take off.

You can dismiss us if you like, but at least do so on an informed basis. Call us what you want, but the Cajun Nation is united in our quest to be known athletically as Louisiana (You are NOT Louisiana). Why that would matter to a school like Tulane or any school for that matter is beyond me. Very few schools, public or private, go by their complete official name. Stanford doesn't, LSU doesn't, Nevada doesn't, Fresno State doesn't, Texas doesn't. When the real facts are known, I hope that people are not swayed by negative posts by certain Tulane posters and form a more objective and informed opinion on Louisiana (You are NOT Louisiana).

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This guy is unbelievable! Reminds of the a guy who thinks if you tell the lie enough times....people will believe it! Why do you go to the Big East board to spread your false marketing and gloat about your wins under your false name is beyond me. Did you EVER hear the ESPN announcers refer to the Cajuns as "Louisiana"....no, because they know of its legal implications. Did you see the score listed as "Louisiana"....no! The team was only termed as ULL, Lafayette, or Louisiana Lafayette. Quit the name game with us!

The reason why the "Louisiana" label means something is because of its significance to Tulane (initially being University of Louisiana to Tulane University of Louisiana) and the pretending by UL-L to be a flagship school comparable with LSU. The UL-L folks don't seem to care that the term is offensive, because they hope the lie will eventually stick. That is why the Louisiana legislature passed a law forbidding the solo Louisiana name for the Lafayette school. I swear I cheer for the Cajuns (very impressive crowd, team... and I have dear friends in Lafayette), but this false marketing is making my friendly side go in another direction.

It is blitheringly obvious that UL-L is trying to create the false impression that it is the flagship institution.

(12-28-2012 10:15 PM)texasflood Wrote:  

(12-28-2012 10:07 PM)Pelican Power Wrote:  The reason why the "Louisiana" label means something is because of its significance to Tulane (initially being University of Louisiana to Tulane University of Louisiana) and the pretending by UL-L to be a flagship school comparable with LSU. The UL-L folks don't seem to care that the term is offensive, because they hope the lie will eventually stick. That is why the Louisiana legislature passed a law forbidding the solo Louisiana name for the Lafayette school. I swear I cheer for the Cajuns (very impressive crowd, team... and I have dear friends in Lafayette), but this false marketing is making my friendly side go in another direction.

It is blitheringly obvious that UL-L is trying to create the false impression that it is the flagship institution.

That sure seems to be the case. The argument basically seems to be "We're trying to brand athletics as Lousiana" despite the fact that he doesn't deny that the state legislature has forbidden the school from using that as their name.

(12-28-2012 11:08 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(12-28-2012 10:15 PM)texasflood Wrote:  

(12-28-2012 10:07 PM)Pelican Power Wrote:  The reason why the "Louisiana" label means something is because of its significance to Tulane (initially being University of Louisiana to Tulane University of Louisiana) and the pretending by UL-L to be a flagship school comparable with LSU. The UL-L folks don't seem to care that the term is offensive, because they hope the lie will eventually stick. That is why the Louisiana legislature passed a law forbidding the solo Louisiana name for the Lafayette school. I swear I cheer for the Cajuns (very impressive crowd, team... and I have dear friends in Lafayette), but this false marketing is making my friendly side go in another direction.

It is blitheringly obvious that UL-L is trying to create the false impression that it is the flagship institution.

That sure seems to be the case. The argument basically seems to be "We're trying to brand athletics as Lousiana" despite the fact that he doesn't deny that the state legislature has forbidden the school from using that as their name.

I'm certainly not speaking for the university. I am just an alumnus. First of all, Tulane was originally Tulane University "of Louisiana, not Tulane "University of Louisiana". Secondly, the University of Louisiana name was legally given to then USL (University of Southwestern Louisiana) in 1984 and then UL (which was it's legal name at that time) had a graduating class with that same year. We obtained it legally just like every other university name change that had previously taken place prior to that. So, Tulane does not "own" the name. LSU challenged the process and we took the fight all the way to the LA Supreme Court and lost by 1 political vote changing the process for a name change from approval by a State Board to approval by the legislature. The state legislature, as you might guess, is controlled by LSU. It was not until 2000 that our name was changed to the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Northeast Louisiana agreed to change their name to the University of Louisiana at Monroe in exchange for our supporting their admittance to the Sunbelt Conference. This also brought about a change in the State Board to the University of Louisiana System. The law requires at least 2 universities to have the UL name with a city tag. Use of "University of" or "UL" requires the city tag. Those are the ONLY requirements. There is no reference to use of "Louisiana" only. We were grandfathered with the use of "Louisiana's Ragin Cajuns" which we use today. Perfectly legal. Use of simply "Louisiana" is NOT a violation of the law. And, no one outside of the university is legally obligated to follow the law, only the university. So, our local media in Lafayette call us Louisiana and UL. A first reference to University of Louisiana at Lafayette is given in all matters non-athletic. Use of Louisiana is used for athletics only. The name issue has not been pushed by the university, only by concerned alumni like me who have to deal with all of the false information that is perpetrated by people like this Tulane guy. Not one has been said about our logo which says "Louisiana's Ragin Cajuns" which we have been using for 12 years. Suddenly, the 's is dropped and it is mow a major issue with some people. Guven all of that, why would this matter to anyone outside of Louisiana? Within Louisiana, it is politics at its ugliest, presumably for fear of what we have accomplished despite the in-state difficulties and that we dare set our goals to a much higher level.

(12-29-2012 12:21 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  And, no one outside of the university is legally obligated to follow the law, only the university.

The name issue has not been pushed by the university, only by concerned alumni like me...

So it boils down to... Fans want people to call the school something it is not. And you wonder why others are annoyed?

(12-29-2012 12:21 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(12-28-2012 11:08 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(12-28-2012 10:15 PM)texasflood Wrote:  

(12-28-2012 10:07 PM)Pelican Power Wrote:  The reason why the "Louisiana" label means something is because of its significance to Tulane (initially being University of Louisiana to Tulane University of Louisiana) and the pretending by UL-L to be a flagship school comparable with LSU. The UL-L folks don't seem to care that the term is offensive, because they hope the lie will eventually stick. That is why the Louisiana legislature passed a law forbidding the solo Louisiana name for the Lafayette school. I swear I cheer for the Cajuns (very impressive crowd, team... and I have dear friends in Lafayette), but this false marketing is making my friendly side go in another direction.

It is blitheringly obvious that UL-L is trying to create the false impression that it is the flagship institution.

That sure seems to be the case. The argument basically seems to be "We're trying to brand athletics as Lousiana" despite the fact that he doesn't deny that the state legislature has forbidden the school from using that as their name.

I'm certainly not speaking for the university. I am just an alumnus. First of all, Tulane was originally Tulane University "of Louisiana, not Tulane "University of Louisiana". Secondly, the University of Louisiana name was legally given to then USL (University of Southwestern Louisiana) in 1984 and then UL (which was it's legal name at that time) had a graduating class with that same year. We obtained it legally just like every other university name change that had previously taken place prior to that. So, Tulane does not "own" the name. LSU challenged the process and we took the fight all the way to the LA Supreme Court and lost by 1 political vote changing the process for a name change from approval by a State Board to approval by the legislature. The state legislature, as you might guess, is controlled by LSU. It was not until 2000 that our name was changed to the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Northeast Louisiana agreed to change their name to the University of Louisiana at Monroe in exchange for our supporting their admittance to the Sunbelt Conference. This also brought about a change in the State Board to the University of Louisiana System. The law requires at least 2 universities to have the UL name with a city tag. Use of "University of" or "UL" requires the city tag. Those are the ONLY requirements. There is no reference to use of "Louisiana" only. We were grandfathered with the use of "Louisiana's Ragin Cajuns" which we use today. Perfectly legal. Use of simply "Louisiana" is NOT a violation of the law. And, no one outside of the university is legally obligated to follow the law, only the university. So, our local media in Lafayette call us Louisiana and UL. A first reference to University of Louisiana at Lafayette is given in all matters non-athletic. Use of Louisiana is used for athletics only. The name issue has not been pushed by the university, only by concerned alumni like me who have to deal with all of the false information that is perpetrated by people like this Tulane guy. Not one has been said about our logo which says "Louisiana's Ragin Cajuns" which we have been using for 12 years. Suddenly, the 's is dropped and it is mow a major issue with some people. Guven all of that, why would this matter to anyone outside of Louisiana? Within Louisiana, it is politics at its ugliest, presumably for fear of what we have accomplished despite the in-state difficulties and that we dare set our goals to a much higher level.

That's because dropping the S creates the false impression that you are the flagship. Which is why you dropped the S.

These ULL fans are as disingenuous as you can get. All you have to do is go to their board and you will see the motivation behind this name thing is to present themselves as something they are not - a state flagship school. The lie that they only want the name for athletics is easily shown in their practice of using UL for ALL aspects of their school. I have watched them bully their own conference mates into calling them Louisiana, and observe their efforts to do the same with the newspapers, sports networks, sports talk shows, etc. Outside of their immediate location they are not having any success, particularly in the state of Louisiana where people know better. The fan base of this school has the biggest inferiority complex I have EVER seen. They are desperate to be noticed, and would rather accomplish that with a lie rather than putting in the effort to build their school academically and athletically.

(12-26-2012 11:18 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(12-26-2012 09:41 AM)texasflood Wrote:  

(12-26-2012 01:03 AM)Pelican Power Wrote:  

(12-26-2012 12:18 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(12-23-2012 12:11 PM)k5james Wrote:  The Nola Bowl was a really fun bowl for us too, other than that effing kicker.

The ULL fans represented last year as well. I don't see how their home attendance isn't better.

Louisiana has hosted Alabama, Texas A&M, Kansas State, OK State, Minnesota, Houston, Tulane, Memphis, ECU, USM, UCF, and just about every non-AQ team in the country. We have wins against just about every non-AQ school plus Texas A&M and Kansas State. We averaged well over 30,000 in those games. Averaged almost 30,000 last year and had the #1 increase in attendance in the country. This year, we played our 2 opening games in monsoon like weather and a Tuesday night ESPN game, so attendance was down. Also, our fans don't get too excited over SBC games. The N. O. bowl over the last 2 games showed what our potential is. We are rolling out a Master Plan for athletics shortly that will increase our stadium capacity to over 50,000. BTW, in spring sports, UL baseball has been to the CWS and is in the top 20 in the country in attendance and top 10 in atmosphere. UL softball has been to the WCWS 6 times and is a perennial top 20 team. UL basketball is on the rebound and plays in a beautiful 12,500 seat Cajundome. Master Plan also includes new weight room, meeting rooms, suites (already sold), offices, etc., major renovations to baseball stadium to increase seating to over 10,000 and renovations to T&F facility. Just built a new softball facility (top 20 in the country) and we are among a handful of BCS schools in the South with an Indoor Practice Facility. Create a Southern Division of the Big East to include Houston, Tulane, Louisiana, USM, Memphis, UCF and USF.

Louisiana did not host anything. ULL hosted Alabama, Texas A&M,....silly for the UL Lafayette folks to think they are the Univ of Louisiana when you are not officially or unofficially.....but they insist on playing this name game. Did you EVER hear the announcers use the term "Louisiana".......NO! Did the ESPN television list the Cajuns as "Louisiana"....NO! Quit the game. I swear I cheer for the Cajuns nearly every time, but when I hear that Louisiana propaganda stuff, I get turned off.

Perhaps the only thing Tulane and LSU fans agree on is that UL-L is NOT the "University of Louisiana". For those not from the bayou the official name of UL-L has been a subject of political controversy in that state.

Everyone can clearly see the pettiness in all of this by other schools in Louisiana. Like most schools that have the city tag in their official name, we chose to brand ourselves ATHLETICALLY as simply LOUISIANA. So, like Nevada Reno is Nevada or Nebraska Lincoln is Nebraska or Cal Berkeley is Cal or Texas Austin is Texas, Louisiana Lafayette is Louisiana. And, as other schools have done like Cal at Los Angeles is UCLA or Texas El Paso is UTEP or Nevada Las Vegas is UNLV, Louisiana Monroe has branded itself as ULM. So, there is no name conflict. It doesn't matter if a school is the flagship or not. LOUISIANA is perfectly legal and it is slowly taking root. You will see our university getting more aggressive in our branding campaign. Why other schools are so concerned about that is perplexing. It has no impact on a school like Tulane. But, some people seem to have a need to direct a personal campaign against it. I don't want to turn this into a name thread. Just had to clear up any misconceptions created by this Tulane guy. It will take care of itself in time. I see from other comments that most of you "get it". BTW, if we had to call every university by its legal name, we would all be surprised at what we find, i.e. Cal State Fresno chose to brand itself as Fresno State. No one calls them CSF. A school typically goes by its official name academically and an abbreviated name athletically, which we are doing.

Big difference - those are the flagship schools of the University system in that state, all others are offshoots from that.

(12-29-2012 01:26 PM)BuzDawg73 Wrote:  These ULL fans are as disingenuous as you can get. All you have to do is go to their board and you will see the motivation behind this name thing is to present themselves as something they are not - a state flagship school. The lie that they only want the name for athletics is easily shown in their practice of using UL for ALL aspects of their school. I have watched them bully their own conference mates into calling them Louisiana, and observe their efforts to do the same with the newspapers, sports networks, sports talk shows, etc. Outside of their immediate location they are not having any success, particularly in the state of Louisiana where people know better. The fan base of this school has the biggest inferiority complex I have EVER seen. They are desperate to be noticed, and would rather accomplish that with a lie rather than putting in the effort to build their school academically and athletically.

Your post obviously has a rival's tone to it, but the message seems geniune. It appears they want to give the appearance of not being part of the University of Louisiana system, which is the reality.

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ULL fan writes:
I'm certainly not speaking for the university. I am just an alumnus. First of all, Tulane was originally Tulane University "of Louisiana, not Tulane "University of Louisiana". WRONG: you do not know your history, Tulane was added to the University of Louisiana when Paul Tulane donated finances and real estate to the University of Louisiana. How is that so hard for you to understand? Secondly, the University of Louisiana name (WITH A REGIONAL DESIGNATION) was legally given to then USL (University of Southwestern Louisiana) in 1984 and then UL (which was it's legal name at that time) [b]WRONG AGAIN! as long as the name had a regional location[/b] had a graduating class with that same year. We obtained it legally just like every other university name change that had previously taken place prior to that. So, Tulane does not "own" the name. LSU (AND TULANE) challenged the process and we took the fight all the way to the LA Supreme Court and lost by 1 political vote changing the process for a name change from approval by a State Board to approval by the legislature. YOU LOST BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA! The state legislature, as you might guess, is controlled by LSU. It was not until 2000 that our name was changed to the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Northeast Louisiana agreed to change their name to the University of Louisiana at Monroe in exchange for our supporting their admittance to the Sunbelt Conference. This also brought about a change in the State Board to the University of Louisiana System. The law requires at least 2 universities to have the UL name with a city tag. Use of "University of" or "UL" requires the city tag. Those are the ONLY requirements. There is no reference to use of "Louisiana" only. We were grandfathered with the use of "Louisiana's Ragin Cajuns" which we use today. Perfectly legal. Use of simply "Louisiana" is NOT a violation of the law. And, no one outside of the university is legally obligated to follow the law, only the university. So, our local media in Lafayette call us Louisiana and UL. A first reference to University of Louisiana at Lafayette is given in all matters non-athletic. Use of Louisiana is used for athletics only. The name issue has not been pushed by the university, only by concerned alumni like me who have to deal with all of the false information that is perpetrated by people like this Tulane guy. (NOT FALSE, YOU WANT TO TELL A LIE!) Not one has been said about our logo which says "Louisiana's Ragin Cajuns" which we have been using for 12 years. (LOVE THE LOGO AND MOTTO, BUT YOU ARE PLAYING A GAME, YOU ARE NOT "LOUISIANA") Suddenly, the 's is dropped and it is mow a major issue with some people (YUP! YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE OFFENSIVE NATURE USING THAT NAME TO TULANE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA AND ITS HISTORY ALONG WITH LSU AS THE PUBLIC FLAGSHIP SCHOOL). Guven all of that, why would this matter to anyone outside of Louisiana? Within Louisiana, (PERCEPTION MY FRIEND....NOTE TULANE IS A NATIONAL UNIVERSITY IN ITS SCOPE AS THE OLDEST UNIVERSITY IN LOUISIANA, so it matters as Tulane represents Louisiana) it is politics at its ugliest (your politics to change HISTORY...expect a fight!), presumably for fear of what we have accomplished despite the in-state difficulties and that we dare set our goals to a much higher level.
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Final Note:
I really like ULL and I do agree good things are happening at ULL, but hearing the dialogue of one alumnus based on his insensitivity to Louisiana's other universities history has started to change my mind. I cannot imagine how Monroe thinks of your name game. If you want to internally chat the word Louisiana....fine, but if you chat to the word "Louisiana" externally in the real world, you will find yourself fully confronted for your name falsification game!

I think the Ragin Cajuns are winning the argument here. People are getting their dander up, using bold font, laying out meticulous counter-points and just generally talking about it.

Way to go Louisiana Ragin Cajuns.

ULL fan writes:
I'm certainly not speaking for the university. I am just an alumnus. First of all, Tulane was originally Tulane University "of Louisiana, not Tulane "University of Louisiana". WRONG: you do not know your history, Tulane was added to the University of Louisiana when Paul Tulane donated finances and real estate to the University of Louisiana. How is that so hard for you to understand? Secondly, the University of Louisiana name (WITH A REGIONAL DESIGNATION) was legally given to then USL (University of Southwestern Louisiana) in 1984 and then UL (which was it's legal name at that time) [b]WRONG AGAIN! as long as the name had a regional location[/b] had a graduating class with that same year. We obtained it legally just like every other university name change that had previously taken place prior to that. So, Tulane does not "own" the name. LSU (AND TULANE) challenged the process and we took the fight all the way to the LA Supreme Court and lost by 1 political vote changing the process for a name change from approval by a State Board to approval by the legislature. YOU LOST BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA! The state legislature, as you might guess, is controlled by LSU. It was not until 2000 that our name was changed to the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Northeast Louisiana agreed to change their name to the University of Louisiana at Monroe in exchange for our supporting their admittance to the Sunbelt Conference. This also brought about a change in the State Board to the University of Louisiana System. The law requires at least 2 universities to have the UL name with a city tag. Use of "University of" or "UL" requires the city tag. Those are the ONLY requirements. There is no reference to use of "Louisiana" only. We were grandfathered with the use of "Louisiana's Ragin Cajuns" which we use today. Perfectly legal. Use of simply "Louisiana" is NOT a violation of the law. And, no one outside of the university is legally obligated to follow the law, only the university. So, our local media in Lafayette call us Louisiana and UL. A first reference to University of Louisiana at Lafayette is given in all matters non-athletic. Use of Louisiana is used for athletics only. The name issue has not been pushed by the university, only by concerned alumni like me who have to deal with all of the false information that is perpetrated by people like this Tulane guy. (NOT FALSE, YOU WANT TO TELL A LIE!) Not one has been said about our logo which says "Louisiana's Ragin Cajuns" which we have been using for 12 years. (LOVE THE LOGO AND MOTTO, BUT YOU ARE PLAYING A GAME, YOU ARE NOT "LOUISIANA") Suddenly, the 's is dropped and it is mow a major issue with some people (YUP! YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE OFFENSIVE NATURE USING THAT NAME TO TULANE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA AND ITS HISTORY ALONG WITH LSU AS THE PUBLIC FLAGSHIP SCHOOL). Guven all of that, why would this matter to anyone outside of Louisiana? Within Louisiana, (PERCEPTION MY FRIEND....NOTE TULANE IS A NATIONAL UNIVERSITY IN ITS SCOPE AS THE OLDEST UNIVERSITY IN LOUISIANA, so it matters as Tulane represents Louisiana) it is politics at its ugliest (your politics to change HISTORY...expect a fight!), presumably for fear of what we have accomplished despite the in-state difficulties and that we dare set our goals to a much higher level.

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I really like ULL and I do agree good things are happening at ULL, but hearing the dialogue of one alumnus based on his insensitivity to Louisiana's other universities history has started to change my mind. I cannot imagine how Monroe thinks of your name game. If you want to internally chat the word Louisiana....fine, but if you chat to the word "Louisiana" externally in the real world, you will find yourself fully confronted for your name falsification game!

Dude, PLEASE learn how to quote.

ULL fan writes:
I'm certainly not speaking for the university. I am just an alumnus. First of all, Tulane was originally Tulane University "of Louisiana, not Tulane "University of Louisiana". WRONG: you do not know your history, Tulane was added to the University of Louisiana when Paul Tulane donated finances and real estate to the University of Louisiana. How is that so hard for you to understand? Secondly, the University of Louisiana name (WITH A REGIONAL DESIGNATION) was legally given to then USL (University of Southwestern Louisiana) in 1984 and then UL (which was it's legal name at that time) [b]WRONG AGAIN! as long as the name had a regional location[/b] had a graduating class with that same year. We obtained it legally just like every other university name change that had previously taken place prior to that. So, Tulane does not "own" the name. LSU (AND TULANE) challenged the process and we took the fight all the way to the LA Supreme Court and lost by 1 political vote changing the process for a name change from approval by a State Board to approval by the legislature. YOU LOST BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA! The state legislature, as you might guess, is controlled by LSU. It was not until 2000 that our name was changed to the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Northeast Louisiana agreed to change their name to the University of Louisiana at Monroe in exchange for our supporting their admittance to the Sunbelt Conference. This also brought about a change in the State Board to the University of Louisiana System. The law requires at least 2 universities to have the UL name with a city tag. Use of "University of" or "UL" requires the city tag. Those are the ONLY requirements. There is no reference to use of "Louisiana" only. We were grandfathered with the use of "Louisiana's Ragin Cajuns" which we use today. Perfectly legal. Use of simply "Louisiana" is NOT a violation of the law. And, no one outside of the university is legally obligated to follow the law, only the university. So, our local media in Lafayette call us Louisiana and UL. A first reference to University of Louisiana at Lafayette is given in all matters non-athletic. Use of Louisiana is used for athletics only. The name issue has not been pushed by the university, only by concerned alumni like me who have to deal with all of the false information that is perpetrated by people like this Tulane guy. (NOT FALSE, YOU WANT TO TELL A LIE!) Not one has been said about our logo which says "Louisiana's Ragin Cajuns" which we have been using for 12 years. (LOVE THE LOGO AND MOTTO, BUT YOU ARE PLAYING A GAME, YOU ARE NOT "LOUISIANA") Suddenly, the 's is dropped and it is mow a major issue with some people (YUP! YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE OFFENSIVE NATURE USING THAT NAME TO TULANE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA AND ITS HISTORY ALONG WITH LSU AS THE PUBLIC FLAGSHIP SCHOOL). Guven all of that, why would this matter to anyone outside of Louisiana? Within Louisiana, (PERCEPTION MY FRIEND....NOTE TULANE IS A NATIONAL UNIVERSITY IN ITS SCOPE AS THE OLDEST UNIVERSITY IN LOUISIANA, so it matters as Tulane represents Louisiana) it is politics at its ugliest (your politics to change HISTORY...expect a fight!), presumably for fear of what we have accomplished despite the in-state difficulties and that we dare set our goals to a much higher level.
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Final Note:
I really like ULL and I do agree good things are happening at ULL, but hearing the dialogue of one alumnus based on his insensitivity to Louisiana's other universities history has started to change my mind. I cannot imagine how Monroe thinks of your name game. If you want to internally chat the word Louisiana....fine, but if you chat to the word "Louisiana" externally in the real world, you will find yourself fully confronted for your name falsification game!
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Look, your own website says "Tulane emerged as a private university in 1884 when the University of Louisiana was reorganized and named in honor of benefactor Paul Tulane ...". You are not now and never were the Tulane "University of Louisiana" and there is no reference to that in the "History of Tulane" on your website. You are simply Tulane University, a private school with no ties to a public university name or UL System. Adding the city tag was forced on us in 2000 as a compromise in our getting the University of Louisiana name. In 1984, we were approved by the State Board of Colleges and Universities as the University of Louisiana period. No city tag and no regional designation. We held the name for a semester and graduated a class under the University of Louisiana. To claim that Tulane still has a claim to that name is disingenuous. We are a public university and you are private. Quit tying yourself to LSU. Those days have sailed ever since your president in all his brilliance quit the SEC. Tulane has no control over a public university. Use of "Louisiana" is legal. You obviously don't like it, but it is a fact. There is no attempt to be the flagship. In fact, most people don't know this, but LSU is the flagship of the LSU System. And their official, legal name is the Louisiana State University Agricultural and Mechanical College at Baton Rouge. Technically, they are an A&M school, but chose not to go by that and just shortened it to LSU. LSU has nothing to do with the University of Louisiana System which has no flagship university. Tulane, as a private university, certainly has NO TIES to any UL System university or it's name. So, why are you here telling us what we can call ourselves? This is ludicrous. This is like Rice telling universities in Texas what they can name themselves.

I apologize to those on this board for having to endure this. This was never intended to expand into a name thread. I think I've said all I need to. I hope you will respect our wish to be known athletically as Louisiana and can see thru the reduculous pettiness that we face on a daily basis.

Cannot respect your wish to be called University of Louisiana or Louisiana because ULL is respectfully not those schools, just Louisiana's Rajun Cajuns (which properly discribes ULL and is frankly a very cool phrase).

Now this particular ULL fan wants you to believe that Tulane does not cherish its original charter name nor does Tulane use its "University of Louisiana" original name. Below you will see the school's official name and please tell me where in the official Tulane seal where Tulane does NOT use the UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA. This ULL poster wants the world including Tulane and Lsu to respect their desire to call themselves something that Tulane and Lsu went to court and the legislature to stop and succeeded. What part of swallow your medicine does the ULL fan not understand?

Tulane University of Louisiana (tūlān', tyū'-), at New Orleans; coeducational; opened 1834, chartered 1835 as a state medical college. It became the Univ. of Louisiana in 1847 but was reorganized in 1884 when it was endowed by Paul Tulane. The college of arts and sciences is for men. The woman's division is Newcomb College (officially H. Sophie Newcomb Memorial College; chartered 1886, opened 1887 through a gift from Josephine L. Newcomb). Tulane's medical school has been noted since its beginning. Special research programs include the Middle American Research Institute, the Amistad Research Center, the Murphy Institute for Political Economy, the William Ransom Hogan Jazz Archive, the Newcomb College Center for Research on Women, and the International Center for Medical Research and Training.

Tulane University was the first university in the state of Louisiana. They took the color green from the colors of Mardi Gras which are Purple, Green, and Gold. They then added white as there second color. When LSU went to pick colors they chose the remaining two colors of Mardi Gras being Purple and Gold

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