(12-15-2012 05:54 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  There is nothing in common with UCONN and C7. There is no chance UCONN would join with the C7. C7 should thank UCONN for millions of $$$$$ UCONN has earned for them over the years.

Husky, and don't take this as a flame, but there was little difference between UConn and those seven from an athletics standpoint as of 12 years ago, when you were like Villanova and Georgetown with a 1AA football program, including your school previously voting in line with those schools prior to moving your football program up.

Now in no way am I trying to lend credence to the tweets that are the topic of this thread, but let's get real. Remember a week or so ago when you were pissed at Wilkie for posting stuff, and you said he constantly trolls talking up UofL at the expense of other schools, and I said you did the same thing about UConn, and you denied it? Well here is your proof.

So since you liek to tell people to shut up for your definition of trolling,"and you have now been busted doing teh exact same thing, it's time for you to STFU.

(12-15-2012 06:35 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I think this would be the best case scenario for UC/Uconn until/unless they get a call from an autobid conference. Join the National, Best of the Rest conference for football and play olympic sports with the C7. I'm not saying happens, but I think that would be the UC/UConn preference in the split.

Not going to happen. You think the rest would want UC and UConn under those terms?

(12-15-2012 05:58 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  The Big East and Aresco are not stupid....

Well......


note that is not necessarily my opinion, that has just been the prevailing opinion around here for 8 years.

(12-15-2012 06:34 PM)SF Husky Wrote:  UCONN = state flagship
C7 = small private schools

We do have a ton of history together. We will continue to play some of those schools like GTOWN, SJU and Nova.

It's a shame that people need to bash others to try to justify their self-worth.

I hope UConn gets into the ACC. They truly deserve it!

unless they drop football UC and UCONN aren't joining a non football league. The scheduling for an indy is almost impossible unless you have "something" about your program....Catholics, Mormons, Service Academies.

(12-15-2012 06:51 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Ok lets stop the BS and stop posting idiotic tweets that make no sense. Where would UC and UConn play football if they did that? You really believe that the new football league would go for that crap?

Anyways UConn and UC are stuck with the others until thy get invited elsewhere. But the new catholic league will not be what they will be looking at.

1. It's not idiotic, UC/UConn are historic basketball programs that the C7 would love to keep if they could.
2. If the new league truly wants to be a "best of the rest" football conference to Maximize the potential dollars and build the best possible league for competing for a potential playoff spot, then it wants UC/Uconn involved.
3. The new football league does prefer UC/UConn as all sports members, but if their choice in Football only or not having them at all I think they could certainly "go for that crap."
4. There is a lot that is going to be talked about over the next couple of years. In the end I doubt it matter, because I think UC ends up somewhere else, but I would be shocked if, given the current circumstances, this is an option that UC and UConn are not pushing for.

(12-15-2012 06:35 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I think this would be the best case scenario for UC/Uconn until/unless they get a call from an autobid conference. Join the National, Best of the Rest conference for football and play olympic sports with the C7. I'm not saying happens, but I think that would be the UC/UConn preference in the split.

Won't happen. Hightly doubt the BE would let UConn/UC play in the C7 league and BE in football. They would need a home for their football or go independent. The MAC or CUSA might let them play football only but I don't think they would do that either. UC/UConn need to get comfortable. No ACC invite is forthcoming any time soon, without any changes to membership. Sadly this is true for USF also. The sooner we realize this the better.

(12-15-2012 05:45 PM)Maize Wrote:  He works for the Sports writer for the Newark Star-Ledger, covering college hoops, golf and baseball.

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Bottom line: Sounds like those hoops-only schools will be primary targets, but if Cincy/UConn want in, they won't be turned away at all.

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The Cincinnati/UConn angle is much more complex. It would require a lot of persuasion. But those hoops programs have enough sway to do it.

Brendan Prunty @BrendanPrunty
@rushthecourt Perhaps. UC and UConn coming aboard would require a lot of persuasion, mainly on the football end.

Brendan Prunty @BrendanPrunty
Cincinnati and UConn also on the table as well, according to sources. Could work a deal for all sports and football elsewhere.

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(12-15-2012 06:57 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(12-15-2012 06:51 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Ok lets stop the BS and stop posting idiotic tweets that make no sense. Where would UC and UConn play football if they did that? You really believe that the new football league would go for that crap?

Anyways UConn and UC are stuck with the others until thy get invited elsewhere. But the new catholic league will not be what they will be looking at.

1. It's not idiotic, UC/UConn are historic basketball programs that the C7 would love to keep if they could.
2. If the new league truly wants to be a "best of the rest" football conference to Maximize the potential dollars and build the best possible league for competing for a potential playoff spot, then it wants UC/Uconn involved.
3. The new football league does prefer UC/UConn as all sports members, but if their choice in Football only or not having them at all I think they could certainly "go for that crap."
4. There is a lot that is going to be talked about over the next couple of years. In the end I doubt it matter, because I think UC ends up somewhere else, but I would be shocked if, given the current circumstances, this is an option that UC and UConn are not pushing for.

Hypothetically, would Cincy do this if it means being in a league with Xavier?

Yes. There is animosity between UC and XU fans, but the Universities work well together and have leadership with a mutual respect for the other. XU and UC being in the same conference would not make UC think twice.

In reality Cincinnati, UConn, Boise St, South Florida, and BYU can more or less dictate their own terms to the "best of the rest." If they wanted to do this, they could and there is little the "rest" could do about it. But it would undermine the league.

(12-15-2012 06:51 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Ok lets stop the BS and stop posting idiotic tweets that make no sense. Where would UC and UConn play football if they did that? You really believe that the new football league would go for that crap?

Anyways UConn and UC are stuck with the others until thy get invited elsewhere. But the new catholic league will not be what they will be looking at.

Well, forming a new conference spearheaded by those two is the stupidest thing I have heard in some time.

MAC with Temple is the best move if they don't want to sacrifice the Bball. I really don't see another realistic choice.

(12-15-2012 06:57 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(12-15-2012 06:51 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Ok lets stop the BS and stop posting idiotic tweets that make no sense. Where would UC and UConn play football if they did that? You really believe that the new football league would go for that crap?

Anyways UConn and UC are stuck with the others until thy get invited elsewhere. But the new catholic league will not be what they will be looking at.

1. It's not idiotic, UC/UConn are historic basketball programs that the C7 would love to keep if they could.
2. If the new league truly wants to be a "best of the rest" football conference to Maximize the potential dollars and build the best possible league for competing for a potential playoff spot, then it wants UC/Uconn involved.
3. The new football league does prefer UC/UConn as all sports members, but if their choice in Football only or not having them at all I think they could certainly "go for that crap." 4. There is a lot that is going to be talked about over the next couple of years. In the end I doubt it matter, because I think UC ends up somewhere else, but I would be shocked if, given the current circumstances, this is an option that UC and UConn are not pushing for.

UConn and UC don't hold the cards here. The BE does. If the BE doesn't want them as football only they have nowhere to go.

Again, UC/UConn (and USF) have no leverage here UNLESS they have an ACC/B12 invite in thier back pocket, and they don't otherwise they would be gone already.

(12-15-2012 06:57 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(12-15-2012 06:51 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Ok lets stop the BS and stop posting idiotic tweets that make no sense. Where would UC and UConn play football if they did that? You really believe that the new football league would go for that crap?

Anyways UConn and UC are stuck with the others until thy get invited elsewhere. But the new catholic league will not be what they will be looking at.

1. It's not idiotic, UC/UConn are historic basketball programs that the C7 would love to keep if they could.
2. If the new league truly wants to be a "best of the rest" football conference to Maximize the potential dollars and build the best possible league for competing for a potential playoff spot, then it wants UC/Uconn involved.
3. The new football league does prefer UC/UConn as all sports members, but if their choice in Football only or not having them at all I think they could certainly "go for that crap."
4. There is a lot that is going to be talked about over the next couple of years. In the end I doubt it matter, because I think UC ends up somewhere else, but I would be shocked if, given the current circumstances, this is an option that UC and UConn are not pushing for.

Dude. Don't flatter yourself UC and UConn in football only are not going to bring the league enough to keep them around, specially when everyone knows how both schools are waiting or their ACC invite. If you really believe that USF,UCF,Temple,Houston and SMU which are aboard for all sports would support that move, well then my friend I have swamp land to sell you.

(12-15-2012 07:01 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  In reality Cincinnati, UConn, Boise St, South Florida, and BYU can more or less dictate their own terms to the "best of the rest." If they wanted to do this, they could and there is little the "rest" could do about it. But it would undermine the league.

Agree.

(12-15-2012 07:02 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  

(12-15-2012 06:57 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(12-15-2012 06:51 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Ok lets stop the BS and stop posting idiotic tweets that make no sense. Where would UC and UConn play football if they did that? You really believe that the new football league would go for that crap?

Anyways UConn and UC are stuck with the others until thy get invited elsewhere. But the new catholic league will not be what they will be looking at.

1. It's not idiotic, UC/UConn are historic basketball programs that the C7 would love to keep if they could.
2. If the new league truly wants to be a "best of the rest" football conference to Maximize the potential dollars and build the best possible league for competing for a potential playoff spot, then it wants UC/Uconn involved.
3. The new football league does prefer UC/UConn as all sports members, but if their choice in Football only or not having them at all I think they could certainly "go for that crap."
4. There is a lot that is going to be talked about over the next couple of years. In the end I doubt it matter, because I think UC ends up somewhere else, but I would be shocked if, given the current circumstances, this is an option that UC and UConn are not pushing for.

Dude. Don't flatter yourself UC and UConn in football only are not going to bring the league enough to keep them around, specially when everyone knows how both schools are waiting or their ACC invite. If you really believe that USF,UCF,Temple,Houston and SMU which are aboard for all sports would support that move, well then my friend I have swamp land to sell you.

I don't know ultimately how it would play out, but give me a break, If you are trying to build a best of the rest football conference and don't include UC you are going to instantly lose credibility. All sides will look at the benefits and burdens involved, there will be discussions, but don't dismiss this on its face just because it is not ideal for you. To think that UC has no bargaining power in this is asinine.

And if the BE members say No, what' are UC and UConn going to do? You have no leverage. You want to go to the MAC? Or CUSA? That's even if they would take you guys.

This isn't remotely possible. For one thing, where would UC and UConn put football? The MAC? Besides, UConn and UC would be in a better basketball league with Memphis and Temple, along with UNLV, SDSU, New Mexico, etc than they would would the C7 who only have 2 or 3 real power programs as it is.

Name recognition doesn't hold weight like it used to. St. Johns isn't the same as they were back in their heyday. Neither is Villanova, Providence, or Depaul.

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I want all of the schools involved to get what they want out of this mess but it ain't going to happen. I think that the best case for UConn and UC is for further ACC-raiding by the SEC, B12 of B10 or that the B10 finally decides to grow... which until things change, they have no reason to do so.

I suppose that we will find out soon enough... but I predict that for the "Big 5", things are over for now.

(12-15-2012 07:01 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  In reality Cincinnati, UConn, Boise St, South Florida, and BYU can more or less dictate their own terms to the "best of the rest." If they wanted to do this, they could and there is little the "rest" could do about it. But it would undermine the league.

I'd say Temple and South Florida might have something to say about that. They are the only other voting members left. Once July comes, there is no way it happens. A eastern division with Memphis, Temple, and UConn with crossover games with UNLV and SDSU will do fine for a year or two (if they areound anywhere close to that long).