(12-06-2012 12:21 PM)Dukes09 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 12:15 PM)Chrono124 Wrote:  The midgets are fighting in the bar again, someone please escort them out.

have you seen that scene in ja.cka.ss 3? very funny stuff.

idunno if it qualifies as midgets though when some schools draw larger crowds than many others...

just poking you. :)

Lol you may draw more crowds or w/e, but we are still FBS and unfortunately that makes you guys the low men on the totem pole. I was just poking too, but really keep tye arguing on your boards. The OP only posted a simple question about attendance, there's no need to fight over who has more ppl or what the attendance "really" was.

(12-06-2012 12:04 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 07:03 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 01:19 AM)Chrono124 Wrote:  

(12-03-2012 01:02 AM)Dukes09 Wrote:  Ga state 12,309. I promise you, it was nowhere near that many butts in seats. Serious inflation going on at ga state.
Big markets FTW!

So you a JM fan went to every Ga. State game just to see how many butts were in the seats?? If you were a Ga. State fan I would call that dedication, but since your not I guess I would call that....idk stalkerish (and I am sure that's not a word, but you get the point.)

LOL

You have any idea what 12k looks like in a 75k stadium?

like this?

That view is of the blocked off end and the visiting team's seats. If you had a different angle, home side, you would see many more butts in seats. So this pic is just garbage. Not saying our end was packed. It was not or even close.

Still, I hear the attendance is really tickets sold plus band. Clearly season ticket holders were less impressed this year that in the prior two years where our stated attendance was in the 15,000 plus range.

Hopefully the new coach will get everything under control for us to be a competitive program which should result in increased attendance numbers and actual butts in seats.

Quote:Hopefully the new coach will get everything under control for us to be a competitive program which should result in increased attendance numbers and actual butts in seats.

It could take a couple of season to turn the ship around and it will be much harder to do especially with UGA playing() well and only an hour up the road.

Hell, we are 3 hours away and still deal with it that issue.

(12-06-2012 12:03 PM)Dukes09 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 11:37 AM)Glassonion Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 07:43 PM)panama Wrote:  Exactly. So how can anyone question our paltry attendance this year when they never attended a game much less all 6?

"The announced averaged during this season’s 1-10 season was 12,312. The actual number of bodies in seats were closer to between 5,000 to 8,000 (that’s being generous), and many left at halftime."

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...hultz_blog

That the evidence you wanted?

How dare you fact check panama! Lol

You cant fact check withh Jeff Schultz who to my knowledge has never attended a GSU event in any sport. LOL. Believe me we have tried to get him to even attend a basketball game. The media reaction is to be expected. Our MBB team ran off 11 straight wins in Dec and Jan last yearand the AJC and sports radio was still talking Jawga and Wreck. So not surprising Mr Schultz makes his damning comments from behind Dawg hedges. The 12k average included a couple crowds of 10k. 1/7 of anybody's stadium looks like that picture.

(12-06-2012 02:53 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 12:03 PM)Dukes09 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 11:37 AM)Glassonion Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 07:43 PM)panama Wrote:  Exactly. So how can anyone question our paltry attendance this year when they never attended a game much less all 6?

"The announced averaged during this season’s 1-10 season was 12,312. The actual number of bodies in seats were closer to between 5,000 to 8,000 (that’s being generous), and many left at halftime."

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...hultz_blog

That the evidence you wanted?

How dare you fact check panama! Lol

You cant fact check withh Jeff Schultz who to my knowledge has never attended a GSU event in any sport. .

Yes he has. I follow Jeff on Twitter and I specifically remember seeing him posting a picture mocking the 10 or so seats in the Press Box reserved for NFL Scouts during the game against SCSU.

Found the Picture: Jeff Shultz Mocking NFL Scout Seats

And below is his blog about the game.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...inue/?cp=2

"Here’s another problem: Attendance for the season opener was announced at only 18,921. Most of the student section behind one end zone was gone by midway through the third quarter. What does it say when a fan base is so quick to bolt?"

(12-06-2012 03:38 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 02:53 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 12:03 PM)Dukes09 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 11:37 AM)Glassonion Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 07:43 PM)panama Wrote:  Exactly. So how can anyone question our paltry attendance this year when they never attended a game much less all 6?

"The announced averaged during this season’s 1-10 season was 12,312. The actual number of bodies in seats were closer to between 5,000 to 8,000 (that’s being generous), and many left at halftime."

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...hultz_blog

That the evidence you wanted?

How dare you fact check panama! Lol

You cant fact check withh Jeff Schultz who to my knowledge has never attended a GSU event in any sport. .

Yes he has. I follow Jeff on Twitter and I specifically remember seeing him posting a picture mocking the 10 or so seats in the Press Box reserved for NFL Scouts during the game against SCSU.

And below is his blog about the game.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...inue/?cp=2

"Here’s another problem: Attendance for the season opener was announced at only 18,921. Most of the student section behind one end zone was gone by midway through the third quarter. What does it say when a fan base is so quick to bolt?"

I will take him seriously when he starts writing about Georgia's empty student section seats or the 20k to 25k empty seats at Tech games. Students leaving early is a problem even in the SEC. So what. We know whats up. We get it.Big boys dont want us around. Another news flash can read people dont go to losing teams games. Now it certainly does not help when the Athletic Department does none of the things that other startups (notably UTSA and ODU) have done to market their programs locally. Losing only compounds the program. The AJC has chosen as a narrative "Why is a commuter school starting football". Its the same narrative that SEC and ACC fans have used against all our programs. The real story should be "Why is an AD getting Paid Mad Money and Not Doing Everything to Make a Program a Success". But its about readership and click through rates and Jeff gets more UGA and Tech readers by saying we should not exist.

(12-06-2012 03:58 PM)panama Wrote:  The AJC has chosen as a narrative "Why is a commuter school starting football". Its the same narrative that SEC and ACC fans have used against all our programs. The real story should be "Why is an AD getting Paid Mad Money and Not Doing Everything to Make a Program a Success". But its about readership and click through rates and Jeff gets more UGA and Tech readers by saying we should not exist.

Thats the point. Commuter schools usually have a terrible time at program building and support. Always have the money, never the support. And Ga St is the mother of all commuter schools.

(12-06-2012 03:58 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 03:38 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 02:53 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 12:03 PM)Dukes09 Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 11:37 AM)Glassonion Wrote:  "The announced averaged during this season’s 1-10 season was 12,312. The actual number of bodies in seats were closer to between 5,000 to 8,000 (that’s being generous), and many left at halftime."

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...hultz_blog

That the evidence you wanted?

How dare you fact check panama! Lol

You cant fact check withh Jeff Schultz who to my knowledge has never attended a GSU event in any sport. .

Yes he has. I follow Jeff on Twitter and I specifically remember seeing him posting a picture mocking the 10 or so seats in the Press Box reserved for NFL Scouts during the game against SCSU.

And below is his blog about the game.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...inue/?cp=2

"Here’s another problem: Attendance for the season opener was announced at only 18,921. Most of the student section behind one end zone was gone by midway through the third quarter. What does it say when a fan base is so quick to bolt?"

I will take him seriously when he starts writing about Georgia's empty student section seats or the 20k to 25k empty seats at Tech games. Students leaving early is a problem even in the SEC. So what. We know whats up. We get it.Big boys dont want us around. Another news flash can read people dont go to losing teams games. Now it certainly does not help when the Athletic Department does none of the things that other startups (notably UTSA and ODU) have done to market their programs locally. Losing only compounds the program. The AJC has chosen as a narrative "Why is a commuter school starting football". Its the same narrative that SEC and ACC fans have used against all our programs. The real story should be "Why is an AD getting Paid Mad Money and Not Doing Everything to Make a Program a Success". But its about readership and click through rates and Jeff gets more UGA and Tech readers by saying we should not exist.

GT Empty Seats

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...or-future/

"The Jackets regularly played before thousands of empty seats at home games. The school also could not sell out its allotment of 8,000 tickets for Saturday’s game."

UGA Empty Seats by Junk Yard Dawg of AJC

http://blogs.ajc.com/junkyard-blawg/2012...yard_blawg

"The student section never reached capacity last season, the R&B report noted, with more than half the 18,000 student seats going unused at one game. But while it shouldn’t be that surprising to have 10,000 students deciding to ditch the Coastal Carolina game, it’s shocking to read that there were 3,000 empty student seats for Auburn."

Mention of empty seats by Jeff Shultz(in passing really)

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...eels-like/

"I don’t know how many empty seats there will be today. But I can report there was very little traffic driving to Athens and around the stadium today."

Just to name a few times AJC does it across the board. I'm sure I could dig up more.

(12-06-2012 04:02 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 03:58 PM)panama Wrote:  The AJC has chosen as a narrative "Why is a commuter school starting football". Its the same narrative that SEC and ACC fans have used against all our programs. The real story should be "Why is an AD getting Paid Mad Money and Not Doing Everything to Make a Program a Success". But its about readership and click through rates and Jeff gets more UGA and Tech readers by saying we should not exist.

Thats the point. Commuter schools usually have a terrible time at program building and support. Always have the money, never the support. And Ga St is the mother of all commuter schools.

I dont know where the line is drawn on commuter schools. We have better than 4000 students living on campus now. It was just announced that a company is building private dorms for another 725 students. So what makes you a commuter school? Less than 50% living on campus? Less than 25%? Less than 15%?

(12-06-2012 04:07 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 03:58 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 03:38 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 02:53 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 12:03 PM)Dukes09 Wrote:  How dare you fact check panama! Lol

You cant fact check withh Jeff Schultz who to my knowledge has never attended a GSU event in any sport. .

Yes he has. I follow Jeff on Twitter and I specifically remember seeing him posting a picture mocking the 10 or so seats in the Press Box reserved for NFL Scouts during the game against SCSU.

And below is his blog about the game.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...inue/?cp=2

"Here’s another problem: Attendance for the season opener was announced at only 18,921. Most of the student section behind one end zone was gone by midway through the third quarter. What does it say when a fan base is so quick to bolt?"

I will take him seriously when he starts writing about Georgia's empty student section seats or the 20k to 25k empty seats at Tech games. Students leaving early is a problem even in the SEC. So what. We know whats up. We get it.Big boys dont want us around. Another news flash can read people dont go to losing teams games. Now it certainly does not help when the Athletic Department does none of the things that other startups (notably UTSA and ODU) have done to market their programs locally. Losing only compounds the program. The AJC has chosen as a narrative "Why is a commuter school starting football". Its the same narrative that SEC and ACC fans have used against all our programs. The real story should be "Why is an AD getting Paid Mad Money and Not Doing Everything to Make a Program a Success". But its about readership and click through rates and Jeff gets more UGA and Tech readers by saying we should not exist.

GT Empty Seats

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...or-future/

"The Jackets regularly played before thousands of empty seats at home games. The school also could not sell out its allotment of 8,000 tickets for Saturday’s game."

UGA Empty Seats by Junk Yard Dawg of AJC

http://blogs.ajc.com/junkyard-blawg/2012...yard_blawg

"The student section never reached capacity last season, the R&B report noted, with more than half the 18,000 student seats going unused at one game. But while it shouldn’t be that surprising to have 10,000 students deciding to ditch the Coastal Carolina game, it’s shocking to read that there were 3,000 empty student seats for Auburn."

Mention of empty seats by Jeff Shultz(in passing really)

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...eels-like/

"I don’t know how many empty seats there will be today. But I can report there was very little traffic driving to Athens and around the stadium today."

Just to name a few times AJC does it across the board. I'm sure I could dig up more.

...and I am sure that if you did there is still higher percentage of negative stories about us in all sports as compared to GT and UGA, especially from Schultz and Bradley. Surely youre not saying that we get the same treatment from Atlanta media as GT and UGA? LOL

(12-06-2012 04:17 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 04:02 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 03:58 PM)panama Wrote:  The AJC has chosen as a narrative "Why is a commuter school starting football". Its the same narrative that SEC and ACC fans have used against all our programs. The real story should be "Why is an AD getting Paid Mad Money and Not Doing Everything to Make a Program a Success". But its about readership and click through rates and Jeff gets more UGA and Tech readers by saying we should not exist.

Thats the point. Commuter schools usually have a terrible time at program building and support. Always have the money, never the support. And Ga St is the mother of all commuter schools.

I dont know where the line is drawn on commuter schools. We have better than 4000 students living on campus now. It was just announced that a company is building private dorms for another 725 students. So what makes you a commuter school? Less than 50% living on campus? Less than 25%? Less than 15%?

I agree... it is bit odd. No real standard.

Perception is reality to most I guess.

The incessant bickering with Ga State people is annoying. Please stop. Hopefully, there will be plenty of opportunities to talk smack in the appropriate venue when our sports teams compete in the same conference.

(12-06-2012 04:22 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 04:17 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 04:02 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 03:58 PM)panama Wrote:  The AJC has chosen as a narrative "Why is a commuter school starting football". Its the same narrative that SEC and ACC fans have used against all our programs. The real story should be "Why is an AD getting Paid Mad Money and Not Doing Everything to Make a Program a Success". But its about readership and click through rates and Jeff gets more UGA and Tech readers by saying we should not exist.

Thats the point. Commuter schools usually have a terrible time at program building and support. Always have the money, never the support. And Ga St is the mother of all commuter schools.

I dont know where the line is drawn on commuter schools. We have better than 4000 students living on campus now. It was just announced that a company is building private dorms for another 725 students. So what makes you a commuter school? Less than 50% living on campus? Less than 25%? Less than 15%?

I agree... it is bit odd. No real standard.

Perception is reality to most I guess.

I think it is. People see big buildings and trains and think commuter. They see UGA's campus and dont think commuter. Yet they dont have that many more on campus students than us. Tech may have 50% to 60% in dorms but you still see a whole bunch of their students on the train.

(12-06-2012 04:27 PM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  The incessant bickering with Ga State people is annoying. Please stop. Hopefully, there will be plenty of opportunities to talk smack in the appropriate venue when our sports teams compete in the same conference.

ISWYDT

(12-06-2012 04:20 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 04:07 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 03:58 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 03:38 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 02:53 PM)panama Wrote:  You cant fact check withh Jeff Schultz who to my knowledge has never attended a GSU event in any sport. .

Yes he has. I follow Jeff on Twitter and I specifically remember seeing him posting a picture mocking the 10 or so seats in the Press Box reserved for NFL Scouts during the game against SCSU.

And below is his blog about the game.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...inue/?cp=2

"Here’s another problem: Attendance for the season opener was announced at only 18,921. Most of the student section behind one end zone was gone by midway through the third quarter. What does it say when a fan base is so quick to bolt?"

I will take him seriously when he starts writing about Georgia's empty student section seats or the 20k to 25k empty seats at Tech games. Students leaving early is a problem even in the SEC. So what. We know whats up. We get it.Big boys dont want us around. Another news flash can read people dont go to losing teams games. Now it certainly does not help when the Athletic Department does none of the things that other startups (notably UTSA and ODU) have done to market their programs locally. Losing only compounds the program. The AJC has chosen as a narrative "Why is a commuter school starting football". Its the same narrative that SEC and ACC fans have used against all our programs. The real story should be "Why is an AD getting Paid Mad Money and Not Doing Everything to Make a Program a Success". But its about readership and click through rates and Jeff gets more UGA and Tech readers by saying we should not exist.

GT Empty Seats

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...or-future/

"The Jackets regularly played before thousands of empty seats at home games. The school also could not sell out its allotment of 8,000 tickets for Saturday’s game."

UGA Empty Seats by Junk Yard Dawg of AJC

http://blogs.ajc.com/junkyard-blawg/2012...yard_blawg

"The student section never reached capacity last season, the R&B report noted, with more than half the 18,000 student seats going unused at one game. But while it shouldn’t be that surprising to have 10,000 students deciding to ditch the Coastal Carolina game, it’s shocking to read that there were 3,000 empty student seats for Auburn."

Mention of empty seats by Jeff Shultz(in passing really)

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2...eels-like/

"I don’t know how many empty seats there will be today. But I can report there was very little traffic driving to Athens and around the stadium today."

Just to name a few times AJC does it across the board. I'm sure I could dig up more.

...and I am sure that if you did there is still higher percentage of negative stories about us in all sports as compared to GT and UGA, especially from Schultz and Bradley. Surely youre not saying that we get the same treatment from Atlanta media as GT and UGA? LOL

In volume.. Tech and UGA get more negative press, and I agree they don't have high a "negative ratio" as State. Getting so few blogs from Shultz and Bradley about Georgia State during a rough 3 year start, I would say you get a higher "negative ratio". You are right, but being that you are so young, the "negative ratio" figures are going to be inflated.

Sorry... being an actuary.. I unfortunately get too technical.

Long day... need a beer.

(12-06-2012 04:17 PM)panama Wrote:  I dont know where the line is drawn on commuter schools. We have better than 4000 students living on campus now. It was just announced that a company is building private dorms for another 725 students. So what makes you a commuter school? Less than 50% living on campus? Less than 25%? Less than 15%?

I dont know where the line is drawn either, but perception has got to be part of it. I just read that 85% of students do not live on Ga St's campus. Thats 85% of the enrollment that are not immersed in Ga St. 24/7. In any real college town, you can live off campus, and still be sourrounded by the university. In Atlanta, you leave, and you may as well be 100 miles away. That has to be a HUGE drawback to getting people interested and devoted. Sports will help in the long run, but Im thinking decades to build up the infrastructure. That or some on field miracle.

(12-06-2012 04:31 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  

(12-06-2012 04:17 PM)panama Wrote:  I dont know where the line is drawn on commuter schools. We have better than 4000 students living on campus now. It was just announced that a company is building private dorms for another 725 students. So what makes you a commuter school? Less than 50% living on campus? Less than 25%? Less than 15%?

I dont know where the line is drawn either, but perception has got to be part of it. I just read that 85% of students do not live on Ga St's campus. Thats 85% of the enrollment that are not immersed in Ga St. 24/7. In any real college town, you can live off campus, and still be sourrounded by the university. In Atlanta, you leave, and you may as well be 100 miles away. That has to be a HUGE drawback to getting people interested and devoted. Sports will help in the long run, but Im thinking decades to build up the infrastructure. That or some on field miracle.

In that respect we're no different than ODU or Houston or UCF or UCLA for that matter. Huge public universities are not going to house 80% or even 50% of students on campus. There was a time when we were that commuter school that people perceive. We now have thousands of students living OFF campus in the neighborhoods surrounding our campus. They are immersed in college life. The campus is still jumping at 10 pm with people walking around.The other thing I mention to people is that our student section is 12k. You need more than just students. When we have gotten crowds of 30k or 26k we have gotten 12k students. That means there were another 14k to 18k non-students. You cant just be on autopilot to sell those tickets,especially in this town of short attention spans and way too much to do.

In Atlanta you have to win and be exciting doing it. If we ever get a hidden superstar like, an Armanti, Chris Johnson or even an Aplin or a Heineke, we will become hot over night. People in ATL are starving for an alternative to Tech who have a snobbish perception and who run an offense that most see as not made for D1A..with apologize to my Ga Southern brethren.

(12-02-2012 03:24 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  1. Arkansas State...26,398

2. Louisiana...22,865

3. TROY...20,952

4. ULM...19,359*

5. North Texas...18,927

6. MTSU...17,738

7. WKU...17,414

8. USA...16,793

9. FIU...13,634

10. FAU...13,459



* I left ULMs game with Arkansas out since it was not a "True" home game.

Sorry but I have to bring this up. "They" say App State is in too small of a market. "They" say App State is hard to get to. "They" say App State beings nothing to the conference. One thing "they" can not say is App State doesn't support the program.

2012: 27,965
2011: 28,031
2010: 29,449
2008: 28,727
2007: 27,140

(12-07-2012 04:47 PM)Wild Bill Kelso Wrote:  

(12-02-2012 03:24 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  1. Arkansas State...26,398

2. Louisiana...22,865

3. TROY...20,952

4. ULM...19,359*

5. North Texas...18,927

6. MTSU...17,738

7. WKU...17,414

8. USA...16,793

9. FIU...13,634

10. FAU...13,459



* I left ULMs game with Arkansas out since it was not a "True" home game.

Sorry but I have to bring this up. "They" say App State is in too small of a market. "They" say App State is hard to get to. "They" say App State beings nothing to the conference. One thing "they" can not say is App State doesn't support the program.

2012: 27,965
2011: 28,031
2010: 29,449
2008: 28,727
2007: 27,140

I don't know anyone on here that says app doesn't bring anything to the SBC. The city of Boone nc and the city of Troy are virtually the same size in population and Watauga County is only slightly larger than Pike county Alabama and yet both schools bring more people in the stadium than the city itself. Says something about our programs.