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RE: CUSA Departure
Big East is barely clinging to life....the departure of UConn and Cincy is just a matter of time. ACC has thrown academics out the window by admitting Louisville, so expect them to go to 14 with the 2 UC's above.

The Basketball schools will pull away, and the environment will be ripe for a new East Coast conference for schools with football. The remainders of the Big East, CUSA, and possibly some of the bigger FCS schools.
11-28-2012 09:13 AM
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RE: CUSA Departure
Terry Holland is the puppet master and his new east coast conference plan is unfolding perfectly.
11-28-2012 09:52 AM
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RE: CUSA Departure
I'd like to see Delaware. I would not be surprised to see them in CUSA sometime in the future.
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RE: CUSA Departure
(11-28-2012 10:12 AM)monarchman Wrote:  I'd like to see Delaware. I would not be surprised to see them in CUSA sometime in the future.

The only way I see Delaware moving up is if this oft-rumored east coast conference becomes a reality.
11-28-2012 10:38 AM
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RE: CUSA Departure
(11-28-2012 09:52 AM)Cr8n Wrote:  Terry Holland is the puppet master and his new east coast conference plan is unfolding perfectly.

As I have stated elsewhere, I considered this sort of speculation silly...until now.

Consider this:

UConn is almost certainly gone, and Cincy is likely to follow.
That leaves only Temple and USF as remaining Big East football members, and potentially Navy.
Houston, UCF, Memphis and SMU are still committed, and now add Tulane and ECU. I think that the likelyhood of SDSU and Boise now going to the Big East is remote.

There are rumblings from UCF, SMU and Houston, but assuming they remain committed to the BE, that still leaves only an 8 or 9 team football conference.

That is certainly not sustainable in today's landscape.

Additionally, I suspect that the BE basketball schools break away, and take Temple with them. Temple football might stay, or could move to somewhere like the MAC.

So.
The BE MUST add at least 2 football schools right now, even if BSU and SDSU remain; which again I think is unlikely. 4 schools if they don't come.
(BYU is still an unknown, but has a great brand and a great market.)

I would not be surprised to see Holland push for ODU, UNCC, Marshall, and Delaware as regional adds.

ODU, UNCC and UD bring the markets. Marshall is in the 65th TV market, but at least it's top 100 and they have a brand.
(JMU and App are longshots because of TV market, but are more FBS ready than UD at this point.)

If UCF, Houston and SMU decide not to go to the BE; along with BSU and SDSU, then Big East football becomes unrecoverable. Poof.
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RE: CUSA Departure
That'd be a really nice division. ECU, UNC-C, ODU, Delaware, Temple, and Navy... It'd almost be as regional as the CAA...

Unfortunately, it is unlikely to happen. Only way I see it happening is if SMU and Houston join SDSU and Boise in going to the MWC. No idea if Tulane would want to stay in that or not.
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RE: CUSA Departure
Per: Harry Minium ‏@Harry_MiniumVP
Middle Tenn State to C-USA

http://hamptonroads.com/2012/11/sources-...ssee-state
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(11-28-2012 11:44 AM)Tribrocavs Wrote:  Per: Harry Minium ‏@Harry_MiniumVP
Middle Tenn State to C-USA

No surprise there. MT was the other choice besides ODU.

More interesting to me is why MTSU would jump on the CUSA bandwagon at this point in time; given the current circumstances.
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Good move. They add quite a bit more than what Tulane brought.
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RE: CUSA Departure
(11-28-2012 11:49 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-28-2012 11:44 AM)Tribrocavs Wrote:  Per: Harry Minium ‏@Harry_MiniumVP
Middle Tenn State to C-USA

No surprise there. MT was the other choice besides ODU.

More interesting to me is why MTSU would jump on the CUSA bandwagon at this point in time; given the current circumstances.

CUSA is still a good league. One team does not a conference make.
11-28-2012 11:51 AM
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RE: CUSA Departure
(11-28-2012 11:49 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-28-2012 11:44 AM)Tribrocavs Wrote:  Per: Harry Minium ‏@Harry_MiniumVP
Middle Tenn State to C-USA

No surprise there. MT was the other choice besides ODU.

More interesting to me is why MTSU would jump on the CUSA bandwagon at this point in time; given the current circumstances.

More than likely it came down to better Tv = more $$$
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RE: CUSA Departure
(11-28-2012 11:51 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  
(11-28-2012 11:49 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-28-2012 11:44 AM)Tribrocavs Wrote:  Per: Harry Minium ‏@Harry_MiniumVP
Middle Tenn State to C-USA

No surprise there. MT was the other choice besides ODU.

More interesting to me is why MTSU would jump on the CUSA bandwagon at this point in time; given the current circumstances.

CUSA is still a good league. One team does not a conference make.

Well it's actually two (Tulane and ECU), and potentially ODU, UNCC, and Marshall depending on how this plays out.
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RE: CUSA Departure
MTSU:

Football: 8-3
Men's Basketball: 56 RPI
Women's Basketball: 37 RPI

Those are good RPI's for a Sunbelt team. I like this, and will look forward to trips to Nashville.
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RE: CUSA Departure
rumblings on the CUSA main board are FAU, New Mex St, maybe WKU are next. I'm not really interested in another Miami school, but FIU might be lobbying hard for them.
11-28-2012 12:09 PM
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(11-28-2012 11:58 AM)monarchman Wrote:  MTSU:

Football: 8-3
Men's Basketball: 56 RPI
Women's Basketball: 37 RPI

Those are good RPI's for a Sunbelt team. I like this, and will look forward to trips to Nashville.

MTSU MBB is 32 http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html
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RE: CUSA Departure
(11-28-2012 11:14 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-28-2012 09:52 AM)Cr8n Wrote:  Terry Holland is the puppet master and his new east coast conference plan is unfolding perfectly.

As I have stated elsewhere, I considered this sort of speculation silly...until now.

Consider this:

UConn is almost certainly gone, and Cincy is likely to follow.
That leaves only Temple and USF as remaining Big East football members, and potentially Navy.
Houston, UCF, Memphis and SMU are still committed, and now add Tulane and ECU. I think that the likelyhood of SDSU and Boise now going to the Big East is remote.

There are rumblings from UCF, SMU and Houston, but assuming they remain committed to the BE, that still leaves only an 8 or 9 team football conference.

That is certainly not sustainable in today's landscape.

Additionally, I suspect that the BE basketball schools break away, and take Temple with them. Temple football might stay, or could move to somewhere like the MAC.

So.
The BE MUST add at least 2 football schools right now, even if BSU and SDSU remain; which again I think is unlikely. 4 schools if they don't come.
(BYU is still an unknown, but has a great brand and a great market.)

I would not be surprised to see Holland push for ODU, UNCC, Marshall, and Delaware as regional adds.

ODU, UNCC and UD bring the markets. Marshall is in the 65th TV market, but at least it's top 100 and they have a brand.
(JMU and App are longshots because of TV market, but are more FBS ready than UD at this point.)
If UCF, Houston and SMU decide not to go to the BE; along with BSU and SDSU, then Big East football becomes unrecoverable. Poof.

I agree with this but you forgot about Memphis
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RE: CUSA Departure
(11-28-2012 01:02 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(11-28-2012 11:58 AM)monarchman Wrote:  MTSU:

Football: 8-3
Men's Basketball: 56 RPI
Women's Basketball: 37 RPI

Those are good RPI's for a Sunbelt team. I like this, and will look forward to trips to Nashville.

MTSU MBB is 32 http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html

I used last years numbers. Too early for '12-13' numbers to mean anything.
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Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN

Middle Tennessee & Florida Atlantic leaving Sun Belt for Conference USA
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(11-28-2012 01:46 PM)monarchman Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN

Middle Tennessee & Florida Atlantic leaving Sun Belt for Conference USA

It is a dark day in ODU history. We need somewhere else to go ASAP. Before all is said and done, we are in a conference full of third rail Texas and Florida schools along with a few Sunbelt retreads. I am sure after Tulsa and UTEP leave, they will be replaced with Texas State, TA&MCC, and Florida A&T. WTF?
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RE: CUSA Departure
(11-28-2012 01:51 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(11-28-2012 01:46 PM)monarchman Wrote:  Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN

Middle Tennessee & Florida Atlantic leaving Sun Belt for Conference USA

It is a dark day in ODU history. We need somewhere else to go ASAP. Before all is said and done, we are in a conference full of third rail Texas and Florida schools along with a few Sunbelt retreads. I am sure after Tulsa and UTEP leave, they will be replaced with Texas State, TA&MCC, and Florida A&T. WTF?

Well I guess ECU is in large part responsibly for you guys rushing your move up, but I am certain your AD was well aware how much we wanted out and understood it was possible we wouldn't be there.
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