So if Evans is such a star player then why haven't the Kings won more games?

(06-28-2012 02:59 PM)Rob Wrote:  So if Evans is such a star player then why haven't the Kings won more games?

It's a one on one league?

Weird.

The lakers were 34-48 a few years ago, if Kobe were so good...

Thunder were 23-59 with Durant.

The Grizz first three years with Rudy: 22, 22 and 24 wins.

Quit being foolish.

(06-28-2012 03:13 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 02:59 PM)Rob Wrote:  So if Evans is such a star player then why haven't the Kings won more games?

It's a one on one league.

Weird.

The lakers were 34-48 a few years ago, if Kobe were so good...

Thunder were 23-59 with Durant.

The Grizz first three years with Rudy: 22, 22 and 24 wins.

Quit being foolish.

Pointing out the one year the lakers struggled is not support. And durant, look how much the team has improved with durants improvement. It's not a one in one league but Evans is not making his team better. He's not a star player. Stephon Marbury had great stats too and he was terrible for the teams he was on. he has all the talent in the world but does not make his teammates better which is what a pg does.

(06-28-2012 03:23 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:13 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 02:59 PM)Rob Wrote:  So if Evans is such a star player then why haven't the Kings won more games?

It's a one on one league.

Weird.

The lakers were 34-48 a few years ago, if Kobe were so good...

Thunder were 23-59 with Durant.

The Grizz first three years with Rudy: 22, 22 and 24 wins.

Quit being foolish.

Pointing out the one year the lakers struggled is not support. And durant, look how much the team has improved with durants improvement. It's not a one in one league but Evans is not making his team better. He's not a star player. Stephon Marbury had great stats too and he was terrible for the teams he was on. he has all the talent in the world but does not make his teammates better which is what a pg does.

Yeah, I'm sure the addition of Westbrook and Harden wasn't beneficial to the improvement of the Thunder.

Why do you make it so easy to come back and counterpoint so easily?

The Heat were 15-67 a few years ago w/ Dewayne Wade dropping 24ppg. Was it because that Wade sucks and only when he has guys like O'Neal or Lebron around him his teams are good?

When you play with sh1tty players, it is hard for one person to make a team good. The talent on that team is marginal at best, the franchise is a mess. Six coaches over the last six years. Drafts are all over the place.

(06-28-2012 03:40 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:23 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:13 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 02:59 PM)Rob Wrote:  So if Evans is such a star player then why haven't the Kings won more games?

It's a one on one league.

Weird.

The lakers were 34-48 a few years ago, if Kobe were so good...

Thunder were 23-59 with Durant.

The Grizz first three years with Rudy: 22, 22 and 24 wins.

Quit being foolish.

Pointing out the one year the lakers struggled is not support. And durant, look how much the team has improved with durants improvement. It's not a one in one league but Evans is not making his team better. He's not a star player. Stephon Marbury had great stats too and he was terrible for the teams he was on. he has all the talent in the world but does not make his teammates better which is what a pg does.

Yeah, I'm sure the addition of Westbrook and Harden wasn't beneficial to the improvement of the Thunder.

Why do you make it so easy to come back and counterpoint so easily?

The Heat were 15-67 a few years ago w/ Dewayne Wade dropping 24ppg. Was it because that Wade sucks and only when he has guys like O'Neal or Lebron around him his teams are good?

When you play with sh1tty players, it is hard for one person to make a team good. The talent on that team is marginal at best, the franchise is a mess. Six coaches over the last six years. Drafts are all over the place.

I know you saw this.

Quote:The salary cap rules are different than in the 80s. How do you plan on having 4 or 5 All Stars under contract? We are struggling just to have 3 fringe all stars under contract and you want 1 or 2 more. That Rondo, Allen, Pierce, Kg team paid the luxury tax last year. Your the one thats always talking about salaries and not being able to go into luxury tax territory.

(06-28-2012 03:44 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:40 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:23 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:13 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 02:59 PM)Rob Wrote:  So if Evans is such a star player then why haven't the Kings won more games?

It's a one on one league.

Weird.

The lakers were 34-48 a few years ago, if Kobe were so good...

Thunder were 23-59 with Durant.

The Grizz first three years with Rudy: 22, 22 and 24 wins.

Quit being foolish.

Pointing out the one year the lakers struggled is not support. And durant, look how much the team has improved with durants improvement. It's not a one in one league but Evans is not making his team better. He's not a star player. Stephon Marbury had great stats too and he was terrible for the teams he was on. he has all the talent in the world but does not make his teammates better which is what a pg does.

Yeah, I'm sure the addition of Westbrook and Harden wasn't beneficial to the improvement of the Thunder.

Why do you make it so easy to come back and counterpoint so easily?

The Heat were 15-67 a few years ago w/ Dewayne Wade dropping 24ppg. Was it because that Wade sucks and only when he has guys like O'Neal or Lebron around him his teams are good?

When you play with sh1tty players, it is hard for one person to make a team good. The talent on that team is marginal at best, the franchise is a mess. Six coaches over the last six years. Drafts are all over the place.

I know you saw this.

Quote:The salary cap rules are different than in the 80s. How do you plan on having 4 or 5 All Stars under contract? We are struggling just to have 3 fringe all stars under contract and you want 1 or 2 more. That Rondo, Allen, Pierce, Kg team paid the luxury tax last year. Your the one thats always talking about salaries and not being able to go into luxury tax territory.

Evans makes less than Conley, so techincally, the Grizz would BENEFIT financially from that trade.

So that would give you a Rookie of the Year, two All-Stars and a player that many Grizz fans believe WILL be an All-Star (Gay). Oh, and the fifth starter is all NBA Defensive team.

(06-28-2012 03:48 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:44 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:40 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:23 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:13 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  It's a one on one league.

Weird.

The lakers were 34-48 a few years ago, if Kobe were so good...

Thunder were 23-59 with Durant.

The Grizz first three years with Rudy: 22, 22 and 24 wins.

Quit being foolish.

Pointing out the one year the lakers struggled is not support. And durant, look how much the team has improved with durants improvement. It's not a one in one league but Evans is not making his team better. He's not a star player. Stephon Marbury had great stats too and he was terrible for the teams he was on. he has all the talent in the world but does not make his teammates better which is what a pg does.

Yeah, I'm sure the addition of Westbrook and Harden wasn't beneficial to the improvement of the Thunder.

Why do you make it so easy to come back and counterpoint so easily?

The Heat were 15-67 a few years ago w/ Dewayne Wade dropping 24ppg. Was it because that Wade sucks and only when he has guys like O'Neal or Lebron around him his teams are good?

When you play with sh1tty players, it is hard for one person to make a team good. The talent on that team is marginal at best, the franchise is a mess. Six coaches over the last six years. Drafts are all over the place.

I know you saw this.

Quote:The salary cap rules are different than in the 80s. How do you plan on having 4 or 5 All Stars under contract? We are struggling just to have 3 fringe all stars under contract and you want 1 or 2 more. That Rondo, Allen, Pierce, Kg team paid the luxury tax last year. Your the one thats always talking about salaries and not being able to go into luxury tax territory.

Evans makes less than Conley, so techincally, the Grizz would BENEFIT financially from that trade.

So that would give you a Rookie of the Year, two All-Stars and a player that many Grizz fans believe WILL be an All-Star (Gay). Oh, and the fifth starter is all NBA Defensive team.

Evans is up for a contract extension soon and if he is as good as your saying he is will command at least 12mil a year so thats

Evans 12mil
Rudy 16
Zach 16
Gasol 13

And Im still convince that a scoring Pg like Evans wouldnt work with Rudy, Zbo and Gasol

(06-28-2012 03:55 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:48 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:44 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:40 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:23 PM)Rob Wrote:  Pointing out the one year the lakers struggled is not support. And durant, look how much the team has improved with durants improvement. It's not a one in one league but Evans is not making his team better. He's not a star player. Stephon Marbury had great stats too and he was terrible for the teams he was on. he has all the talent in the world but does not make his teammates better which is what a pg does.

Yeah, I'm sure the addition of Westbrook and Harden wasn't beneficial to the improvement of the Thunder.

Why do you make it so easy to come back and counterpoint so easily?

The Heat were 15-67 a few years ago w/ Dewayne Wade dropping 24ppg. Was it because that Wade sucks and only when he has guys like O'Neal or Lebron around him his teams are good?

When you play with sh1tty players, it is hard for one person to make a team good. The talent on that team is marginal at best, the franchise is a mess. Six coaches over the last six years. Drafts are all over the place.

I know you saw this.

Quote:The salary cap rules are different than in the 80s. How do you plan on having 4 or 5 All Stars under contract? We are struggling just to have 3 fringe all stars under contract and you want 1 or 2 more. That Rondo, Allen, Pierce, Kg team paid the luxury tax last year. Your the one thats always talking about salaries and not being able to go into luxury tax territory.

Evans makes less than Conley, so techincally, the Grizz would BENEFIT financially from that trade.

So that would give you a Rookie of the Year, two All-Stars and a player that many Grizz fans believe WILL be an All-Star (Gay). Oh, and the fifth starter is all NBA Defensive team.

Evans is up for a contract extension soon and if he is as good as your saying he is will command at least 12mil a year so thats

Evans 12mil
Rudy 16
Zach 16
Gasol 13

And Im still convince that a scoring Pg like Evans wouldnt work with Rudy, Zbo and Gasol

Extension in two years. Until then, he's still cheaper.

(06-28-2012 04:12 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:55 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:48 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:44 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:40 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yeah, I'm sure the addition of Westbrook and Harden wasn't beneficial to the improvement of the Thunder.

Why do you make it so easy to come back and counterpoint so easily?

The Heat were 15-67 a few years ago w/ Dewayne Wade dropping 24ppg. Was it because that Wade sucks and only when he has guys like O'Neal or Lebron around him his teams are good?

When you play with sh1tty players, it is hard for one person to make a team good. The talent on that team is marginal at best, the franchise is a mess. Six coaches over the last six years. Drafts are all over the place.

I know you saw this.

Quote:The salary cap rules are different than in the 80s. How do you plan on having 4 or 5 All Stars under contract? We are struggling just to have 3 fringe all stars under contract and you want 1 or 2 more. That Rondo, Allen, Pierce, Kg team paid the luxury tax last year. Your the one thats always talking about salaries and not being able to go into luxury tax territory.

Evans makes less than Conley, so techincally, the Grizz would BENEFIT financially from that trade.

So that would give you a Rookie of the Year, two All-Stars and a player that many Grizz fans believe WILL be an All-Star (Gay). Oh, and the fifth starter is all NBA Defensive team.

Evans is up for a contract extension soon and if he is as good as your saying he is will command at least 12mil a year so thats

Evans 12mil
Rudy 16
Zach 16
Gasol 13

And Im still convince that a scoring Pg like Evans wouldnt work with Rudy, Zbo and Gasol

Extension in two years. Until then, he's still cheaper.

Its after this upcoming season. So next year at this time we will be trying to trade Rudy, Zbo or Gasol because we cant afford to resign Evans without going over the cap. Cant have an all star team starting lineup dude. Need role players like Conley

(06-28-2012 03:40 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:23 PM)Rob Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 03:13 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(06-28-2012 02:59 PM)Rob Wrote:  So if Evans is such a star player then why haven't the Kings won more games?

It's a one on one league.

Weird.

The lakers were 34-48 a few years ago, if Kobe were so good...

Thunder were 23-59 with Durant.

The Grizz first three years with Rudy: 22, 22 and 24 wins.

Quit being foolish.

Pointing out the one year the lakers struggled is not support. And durant, look how much the team has improved with durants improvement. It's not a one in one league but Evans is not making his team better. He's not a star player. Stephon Marbury had great stats too and he was terrible for the teams he was on. he has all the talent in the world but does not make his teammates better which is what a pg does.

Yeah, I'm sure the addition of Westbrook and Harden wasn't beneficial to the improvement of the Thunder.

Why do you make it so easy to come back and counterpoint so easily?

The Heat were 15-67 a few years ago w/ Dewayne Wade dropping 24ppg. Was it because that Wade sucks and only when he has guys like O'Neal or Lebron around him his teams are good?

When you play with sh1tty players, it is hard for one person to make a team good. The talent on that team is marginal at best, the franchise is a mess. Six coaches over the last six years. Drafts are all over the place.

Look at that heat team again. It was terrible. That's the year they traded shaq and blew the team up, not to mention wade was hurt almost half the year. Evans is a good player, not a star. If he really committed himself I think he could be a very good player. I don't think he could be a good fit on this gem since we need outside shooting. It would be nice to have a big pg but one that can hit shots. If I'm giving up Conley I'd rather get Andre miller than Evans.