(06-08-2012 11:44 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 11:32 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 11:26 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(06-08-2012 11:15 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  13 out of how many?

just wow

does that ******* matter?

what do you think happens when those illegal voters vote????

answer that question honestly

Does that ******* matter? Of course it does, read the article. He wants to summarily dismiss 2,700 'potential noncitizens', they want to review them closer and make sure they're not taking away any American citizens right to vote, the single most important civil liberty granted to us.

It is pertinent because if they found 13 people out of 100 they wanted to purge summarily, then the list is f*cking bullsh*t and clearly far to invasive. If it's 13 out of 14, then I would strongly support the review of these lists to purge non-citizens from them.

I'm not nearly as worried about a few illegal voters voting, I'm far more worried about us stripping away an american citizens most sacred and protected right, just because of a bureaucratic slip up.

insanity

so far 13 illegal voters have been removed. no legal voters have been removed (and to say thats what this will do is ******* insane)

if they check 1,000,000 voters and remove a single vote thats a victory for the single person who would have their vote cancelled out by that illegal vote. why cant leftists see this? errrrrrr nevermind, i know why.

Invalidation of legal white citizen votes is OK, Blacks, illegals another story. The DOJ has endorsed this policy. NBP

Quote:I vote for Candidate A... An Illegal votes for B.... What just happened to my vote?

Looking past the fact that you're assuming they'll vote opposite of you, nothing. You don't live in florida, and you certainly don't live in their congressional district; their vote does not in anyway directly count against yours. Can it swing and election, and cause problems? Absolutely. Should we be diligent in trying to limit it? Of course. But its not a 1 for 1 trade, not by any stretch of the imagination.

Quote:So if the slip up is clipping someone from the roles its the end of the world. If the slip up is allowing an illegal on and the nullify my vote... meh then it all depends on the numbers..

It always depends on the numbers you twat. What if for those 13 votes they would have purged 100 or even 1,000 legally registered voters? Is that ok? It is ok that the purge will unfairly discriminate against those with foreign names?

Quote:insanity

so far 13 illegal voters have been removed. no legal voters have been removed (and to say thats what this will do is ******* insane)

if they check 1,000,000 voters and remove a single vote thats a victory for the single person who would have their vote cancelled out by that illegal vote. why cant leftists see this? errrrrrr nevermind, i know why.

But, you don't know that. Like I said, what if they were going to purge 1,000 voters for those 13 they found? How can you be so blase about something as inherently important as someones right to vote?

(06-08-2012 12:30 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

Quote:I vote for Candidate A... An Illegal votes for B.... What just happened to my vote?

Looking past the fact that you're assuming they'll vote opposite of you, nothing. You don't live in florida, and you certainly don't live in their congressional district; their vote does not in anyway directly count against yours. Can it swing and election, and cause problems? Absolutely. Should we be diligent in trying to limit it? Of course. But its not a 1 for 1 trade, not by any stretch of the imagination.

Quote:So if the slip up is clipping someone from the roles its the end of the world. If the slip up is allowing an illegal on and the nullify my vote... meh then it all depends on the numbers..

It always depends on the numbers you twat. What if for those 13 votes they would have purged 100 or even 1,000 legally registered voters? Is that ok? It is ok that the purge will unfairly discriminate against those with foreign names?

Quote:insanity

so far 13 illegal voters have been removed. no legal voters have been removed (and to say thats what this will do is ******* insane)

if they check 1,000,000 voters and remove a single vote thats a victory for the single person who would have their vote cancelled out by that illegal vote. why cant leftists see this? errrrrrr nevermind, i know why.

But, you don't know that. Like I said, what if they were going to purge 1,000 voters for those 13 they found? How can you be so blase about something as inherently important as someones right to vote?

do even understand what is going on? i dont think you understand what a purge is.

I don't think you know what 'potential' means.

Potential means chocolate covered... if you don't think about it, it makes sense.

BY READING THIS POST YOU RECOGNIZE THAT IMATY IS THE LAST GREAT CRUSADER FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE SO HELP YOU GOD.

(06-08-2012 12:36 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I don't think you know what 'potential' means.

you obviously dont understand what is going on with this

UCF just dismisses the obvious.

(06-08-2012 12:30 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Looking past the fact that you're assuming they'll vote opposite of you

So if they vote with me and double my vote is that not wrong... Stop trying to minimize the impact of an illegal voting... they are nullifying *SOMEONES* vote. If you have to play games and act obtuse to avoid that it should tell you something about where you're standing.

Quote:You don't live in florida

My aunt does, as do several members of my family. But if this is where you want to set the bar for "you can only have an opinion if...." Then can we count on you to stay out of threads about recalls in other states?

Quote:Can it swing and election, and cause problems? Absolutely.

Yea... that was the point....

Quote:Should we be diligent in trying to limit it? Of course.

Except that even when they are being found they are being dismissed as "meh" no reason for rash action here...

Quote:But its not a 1 for 1 trade, not by any stretch of the imagination.

Floridian A votes for Romney, Illegal B votes for Obama... How is that not 1:1?

Quote:It always depends on the numbers you twat.

Nice mouth..

Quote:What if for those 13 votes they would have purged 100 or even 1,000 legally registered voters? Is that ok?

Can those 'purged voters' file a provisional ballot? can they re register? If so then yes it's ok...

Quote:It is ok that the purge will unfairly discriminate against those with foreign names?

LOL... and you're reduced to this...

(06-08-2012 12:47 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  UCF just dismisses the obvious.

That does seem to be his schtick lately...

Act annoyingly obtuse because it's easier to nit pick details of a hypothetical situation than to deal with the underlying issue.

Where have I said we don't need to deal with this issue? Please, point it out. Point out one place where I brushed this off as a non-issue. It never happened, so how about you actually read my posts before you comment on them because it's clear you haven't read a single of my posts in this thread (or, maybe, just didn't comprehend them)

(06-08-2012 01:03 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  Where have I said we don't need to deal with this issue? Please, point it out. Point out one place where I brushed this off as a non-issue. It never happened, so how about you actually read my posts before you comment on them because it's clear you haven't read a single of my posts in this thread (or, maybe, just didn't comprehend them)

disagreeing with every proposed solution is essentially not dealing with it.

How surprising that the cons love a voter purge that kicks a high proportion of legal voters off the rolls so long as those voters are mostly brown-skinned.

(06-08-2012 08:15 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  How surprising that the cons love a voter purge that kicks a high proportion of legal voters off the rolls so long as those voters are mostly brown-skinned.

F U

Under Florida Law an "illegal voter" is

1. Non US Citizen
2. Florida Resident on Felony Probation or Parole
3. Voter that doesn't meet residency rules.

It's real easy to screen these at the Polls. Run their name against convicted Felons on a State Database.

Anyone on Felony Probation or Parole that wants to vote you simply ask them for their documents that shows them off paper. Let them come back vote later.

(06-08-2012 09:37 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Under Florida Law an "illegal voter" is

1. Non US Citizen
2. Florida Resident on Felony Probation or Parole
3. Voter that doesn't meet residency rules.

It's real easy to screen these at the Polls. Run their name against convicted Felons on a State Database.

Anyone on Felony Probation or Parole that wants to vote you simply ask them for their documents that shows them off paper. Let them come back vote later.

under 18yo.

Nationwide database

Wow, another lie from UMGRAD

Suprised ? Hell no

(06-08-2012 08:15 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  How surprising that the cons love a voter purge that kicks a high proportion of legal voters off the rolls so long as those voters are mostly brown-skinned.

You're saying blacks and Hispanics (living) are too stupid to get ID's or ensure they're registered? Please, do tell lib. If you say "brown-skinned" people, one can only assume that you're saying white people are smarter. F'n racist.

(06-08-2012 09:37 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Under Florida Law an "illegal voter" is

1. Non US Citizen
2. Florida Resident on Felony Probation or Parole
3. Voter that doesn't meet residency rules.

It's real easy to screen these at the Polls. Run their name against convicted Felons on a State Database.

Anyone on Felony Probation or Parole that wants to vote you simply ask them for their documents that shows them off paper. Let them come back vote later.

Yea we can't get electronic voting right but we will put those records at every polling place... What could go wrong...

Tow words...

Provisional ballot

(06-08-2012 09:51 PM)maximus Wrote:  Wow, another lie from UMGRAD

Suprised ? Hell no

He didn't lie.

Show me where one legal voter has been kicked off the rolls


Hint: you cant