(05-31-2012 06:05 AM)bladhmadh Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 05:34 PM)lmckay92 Wrote:  Oh and WV has a budget surplus.

http://www.wvpubcast.org/newsarticle.aspx?id=20914

Has for a while I believe.

It's easy to have a surplus if you don't spend money on things like education

Spending money on education does not fix it. Our country is broke because we think spending money on everything will fix it and it has not and will not. West Virginia is a great place to live it has it problems just like all states.

(05-30-2012 11:27 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 11:52 AM)herdfan2013 Wrote:  I'm surprised noone has brought up the fact that WV was born from a few counties of VA wanting to remain with the union.

Not true, WV was formed for lack of state representation in the Tide Water area. The Civil War was a way to get our own representation. It's basic Middle School WV History class.

WV history was a cool class back in the day. Yup, West Virginians just wanted to get away from those damn aristocrats on the Virginia coast; the war gave them the opportunity.

(05-30-2012 11:24 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 09:37 AM)MUTeke Wrote:  The 7th West Virginia Infantry was an infantry regiment that served in the Union Army for the entirety of the war. It is famed for a counter attack on Cemetary Ridge at Gettysburg that repelled an attack by Jubal Early and for a charge at the 'Sunken Road" at Antietam.

There were 22 infantry regiments, 7 cavalry regiments and 8 artillery regiments from West Virginia in the Union Army.

There were 18 infantry regiments, 26 cavalry regiments and 14 artillery regiments as well as a number of militia and guerilla units from West Virginia that fought for the Confederacy.

Basically the split is how you would imagine it to be... the counties from the north and western part of the state(along the borders of OH, PA & MD) were sympathetic to the Union and counties from the south and east(along the borders of KY & VA) were sympathetic to the south.

Really? How does that explain President Lincoln ordering Guyandotte (just outside of Huntington) burned to the ground. And don't forget General Stonewall Jackson.

Also check out this link from the WV State Archives. It's the story of Barboursville (named after Governor Barbour of Virginia). Scroll down to the bottom and notice the residents listed who fought for the North and the South... 60 were Confederate and only ONE was Union. For those that don't know Barboursville is only 12 miles to the East of Huntington. But to keep with the OP there is a McCoy listed as fought for the Confederates in the Barboursville list.

http://www.wvculture.org/history/agrext/barbours.html

How does it explain it? The WV 9th Infantry Regiment(Union), organized and garrisoned in Guyandotte, was attacked by a larger guerrilla unit of Confederate Rangers. They left with more than half of the garrison force as POWs. It was feared they would return to take stockpiles of goods from local businesses. The WV 5th Infantry Regiment (Union) and a group of militia from Procterville OH stationed in Ceredo burnt the town out of military necessity. I didn't say the line of delineation wasn't blurred or that there weren't exceptions(Stonewall Jackson). Centrally located counties, such as Cabell, were caught in the middle where loyalty to either side wasn't as cut and dried.

Battle of Guyandotte

I love how there are ODU fans and people from different states trying to tell us what's wrong with WV. First of all as has already been pointed out, our state is operating with a budget surplus. Look at it however you want, but a year or so ago we were 1 of only like 5 states who was operating in the black. Last time I checked even $.01 in the black is better than $1 million in the red.

Our state is growing and doing fairly well during a time when the rest of the country is more than struggling.

Now back the the OP. I am related to both the Hatfield's and Mccoy's. Hatfield's on my grandma's side and McCoy's on my grandpa's side. I'd grown up hearing stories about this feud. Pretty cool listening to the older people tell you about it as most of them heard it from the actual survivors of the feud. My granny (great great grandmother) is still alive and she remembers some of those who survived the feud.

(05-31-2012 09:02 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I love how there are ODU fans and people from different states trying to tell us what's wrong with WV. First of all as has already been pointed out, our state is operating with a budget surplus. Look at it however you want, but a year or so ago we were 1 of only like 5 states who was operating in the black. Last time I checked even $.01 in the black is better than $1 million in the red.

Our state is growing and doing fairly well during a time when the rest of the country is more than struggling.

Now back the the OP. I am related to both the Hatfield's and Mccoy's. Hatfield's on my grandma's side and McCoy's on my grandpa's side. I'd grown up hearing stories about this feud. Pretty cool listening to the older people tell you about it as most of them heard it from the actual survivors of the feud. My granny (great great grandmother) is still alive and she remembers some of those who survived the feud.

Living in NC, now VA, for the last 14 years or so, I have learned to disregard any comment about WV made by anyone native to VA or NC. I may try to refute now and then, but to no avail.

(05-30-2012 09:37 AM)MUTeke Wrote:  The 7th West Virginia Infantry was an infantry regiment that served in the Union Army for the entirety of the war. It is famed for a counter attack on Cemetary Ridge at Gettysburg that repelled an attack by Jubal Early and for a charge at the 'Sunken Road" at Antietam.

There were 22 infantry regiments, 7 cavalry regiments and 8 artillery regiments from West Virginia in the Union Army.

There were 18 infantry regiments, 26 cavalry regiments and 14 artillery regiments as well as a number of militia and guerilla units from West Virginia that fought for the Confederacy.

Basically the split is how you would imagine it to be... the counties from the north and western part of the state(along the borders of OH, PA & MD) were sympathetic to the Union and counties from the south and east(along the borders of KY & VA) were sympathetic to the south.

I think it's funny that I knew about this Jubal Early before the original

(05-30-2012 11:27 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(05-30-2012 11:52 AM)herdfan2013 Wrote:  I'm surprised noone has brought up the fact that WV was born from a few counties of VA wanting to remain with the union.

Not true, WV was formed for lack of state representation in the Tide Water area. The Civil War was a way to get our own representation. It's basic Middle School WV History class.

Its true to a point; Wheeling as well as many of the northern counties are/ were more closely tied to Penn. & Ohio rather than Richmond and the south. They voted for and pushed for remaining in the union and when they lost, worked to create a restored gov. of VA that originally met in Wheeling, but after statehood was granted, moved to Alexandria.

Much of what became WV was defined by Union lines. There were some counties that wanted to join that were left out because they were outside these lines, and there were some counties that wanted to remain in VA, but were forced in because of their location. the counties of the eastern panhandle did not want to remain in VA, nor did they want to join WV; they wanted to become a part of Maryland.

The southern counties were not really a significant area due to their relatively isolated nature and sparse populations. They may have identified with the southern states more than the northern states, but that identification was meaningless in the grand scheme of WV statehood.

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Besides, the north/south identifying marker is dying. Rising in its place is a urban/rural marker. People in Atlanta have more in common with people in New York, Philadelphia, and other major metros than they do with people in rural southern areas. And people in rural Pennsylvania have more in common with people in rural southern areas than they do with the average person in Philadelphia...

(05-31-2012 09:42 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  Besides, the north/south identifying marker is dying. Rising in its place is a urban/rural marker. People in Atlanta have more in common with people in New York, Philadelphia, and other major metros than they do with people in rural southern areas. And people in rural Pennsylvania have more in common with people in rural southern areas than they do with the average person in Philadelphia...

The man is right. My fiancee is a western PA girl. When I go there they are more like my hometown in South MS except they talk funny and they don't serve sweet tea. Same could be said for Oregon folks that shower and don't hug trees.

From my stint in NY I don't know if I could say if there were any resemblance to my hometown anywhere in that state.

(05-31-2012 12:57 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 09:42 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  Besides, the north/south identifying marker is dying. Rising in its place is a urban/rural marker. People in Atlanta have more in common with people in New York, Philadelphia, and other major metros than they do with people in rural southern areas. And people in rural Pennsylvania have more in common with people in rural southern areas than they do with the average person in Philadelphia...

The man is right. My fiancee is a western PA girl. When I go there they are more like my hometown in South MS except they talk funny and they don't serve sweet tea. Same could be said for Oregon folks that shower and don't hug trees.

From my stint in NY I don't know if I could say if there were any resemblance to my hometown anywhere in that state.

Other than the weather, accents, and political affiliations, it's really the little things that separate the South and the North like no sweet tea. When I went to Boston in 06' and asked for a sweet tea at a Chilli's, they looked at me crazy and offered me raspberry tea. WTF is a raspberry tea? They serve Pepsi and not Coke, call Cokes "sodas and pops", have White Castle instead of Krystals not that I recommend eating Krystal at all. There are nice people in the North but it's really like a backwards Bizzaro world up there. /RANTOFF

(05-31-2012 12:57 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 09:42 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  Besides, the north/south identifying marker is dying. Rising in its place is a urban/rural marker. People in Atlanta have more in common with people in New York, Philadelphia, and other major metros than they do with people in rural southern areas. And people in rural Pennsylvania have more in common with people in rural southern areas than they do with the average person in Philadelphia...

The man is right. My fiancee is a western PA girl. When I go there they are more like my hometown in South MS except they talk funny and they don't serve sweet tea. Same could be said for Oregon folks that shower and don't hug trees.

From my stint in NY I don't know if I could say if there were any resemblance to my hometown anywhere in that state.

You know what they say about pennsylvania Pittsburgh on one end. Philly on the other end and a whole lot of West Virginia in between

(05-31-2012 09:02 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I love how there are ODU fans and people from different states trying to tell us what's wrong with WV. First of all as has already been pointed out, our state is operating with a budget surplus. Look at it however you want, but a year or so ago we were 1 of only like 5 states who was operating in the black. Last time I checked even $.01 in the black is better than $1 million in the red.

Our state is growing and doing fairly well during a time when the rest of the country is more than struggling.

Your state almost had an inmate wins it's Democratic primary... is that because things are "doing fairly well"? Your coal mines & power plants are closing faster than stripclubs when the sun comes up. Half of your state is on foodstamps, drive cars that cost more than their mobile homes, and can't spell 8 letter words.

Does being an ODU fan exclude me from knowing anything of WV, since I spent half my childhood there and all? If I thought it was nice, I would have gone to Marshall or even better WVU.

Oh snap.

Q: What do West Virginians do on Halloween?
A: Pump kin!

Q: Did you hear that the governor's mansion in West Virginia burned down?
A: Almost took out the whole trailer park.

Q: What's the difference between Virginia and West Virginia?
A: In Virginia, Moosehead is a beer. In West Virginia it's a misdemeanor.

Q: Why do ducks fly over West Virginia upside down?
A: There's nothing worth craping on!

Q: Why couldn't the baby Jesus be born in West Virginia?
A: Because they couldn't find 3 wise men or a virgin.

Q. What's the difference between a Marshall University sorority sister and a scarecrow?
A. One lives in a field and is stuffed with hay. The other frightens birds and small animals.

Q: How do you know the toothbrush was invented in West Virginia?
A: If it was invented anywhere else, it would have been called a teethbrush.

Q: Why do Marshall grads keep their diplomas on their dashboards?
A: So they can park in handicap spaces.

(05-31-2012 01:34 PM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 09:02 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I love how there are ODU fans and people from different states trying to tell us what's wrong with WV. First of all as has already been pointed out, our state is operating with a budget surplus. Look at it however you want, but a year or so ago we were 1 of only like 5 states who was operating in the black. Last time I checked even $.01 in the black is better than $1 million in the red.

Our state is growing and doing fairly well during a time when the rest of the country is more than struggling.

Your state almost had an inmate wins it's Democratic primary... is that because things are "doing fairly well"? Your coal mines & power plants are closing faster than stripclubs when the sun comes up. Half of your state is on foodstamps, drive cars that cost more than their mobile homes, and can't spell 8 letter words.

Does being an ODU fan exclude me from knowing anything of WV, since I spent half my childhood there and all? If I thought it was nice, I would have gone to Marshall or even better WVU.

anybody would win the democratic nomiantion in WVA other than that socialist we have in the white house. And yes the power plants are closing and the mines because again of the socialist in the white house. And have you ever been to SW Virginia ? Just as bad or worse than WVA. And btw your a jacka$$

(05-31-2012 01:44 PM)goherd17 Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 01:34 PM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 09:02 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I love how there are ODU fans and people from different states trying to tell us what's wrong with WV. First of all as has already been pointed out, our state is operating with a budget surplus. Look at it however you want, but a year or so ago we were 1 of only like 5 states who was operating in the black. Last time I checked even $.01 in the black is better than $1 million in the red.

Our state is growing and doing fairly well during a time when the rest of the country is more than struggling.

Your state almost had an inmate wins it's Democratic primary... is that because things are "doing fairly well"? Your coal mines & power plants are closing faster than stripclubs when the sun comes up. Half of your state is on foodstamps, drive cars that cost more than their mobile homes, and can't spell 8 letter words.

Does being an ODU fan exclude me from knowing anything of WV, since I spent half my childhood there and all? If I thought it was nice, I would have gone to Marshall or even better WVU.

anybody would win the democratic nomiantion in WVA other than that socialist we have in the white house. And yes the power plants are closing and the mines because again of the socialist in the white house. And have you ever been to SW Virginia ? Just as bad or worse than WVA. And btw your a jacka$$

You guys don't happen to be named Hatfield and McCoy, do you?

(05-31-2012 01:45 PM)Jassbale Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 01:44 PM)goherd17 Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 01:34 PM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 09:02 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I love how there are ODU fans and people from different states trying to tell us what's wrong with WV. First of all as has already been pointed out, our state is operating with a budget surplus. Look at it however you want, but a year or so ago we were 1 of only like 5 states who was operating in the black. Last time I checked even $.01 in the black is better than $1 million in the red.

Our state is growing and doing fairly well during a time when the rest of the country is more than struggling.

Your state almost had an inmate wins it's Democratic primary... is that because things are "doing fairly well"? Your coal mines & power plants are closing faster than stripclubs when the sun comes up. Half of your state is on foodstamps, drive cars that cost more than their mobile homes, and can't spell 8 letter words.

Does being an ODU fan exclude me from knowing anything of WV, since I spent half my childhood there and all? If I thought it was nice, I would have gone to Marshall or even better WVU.

anybody would win the democratic nomiantion in WVA other than that socialist we have in the white house. And yes the power plants are closing and the mines because again of the socialist in the white house. And have you ever been to SW Virginia ? Just as bad or worse than WVA. And btw your a jacka$$

You guys don't happen to be named Hatfield and McCoy, do you?

and there are no redneck idiots in TN either uh?

(05-31-2012 01:47 PM)goherd17 Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 01:45 PM)Jassbale Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 01:44 PM)goherd17 Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 01:34 PM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 09:02 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  I love how there are ODU fans and people from different states trying to tell us what's wrong with WV. First of all as has already been pointed out, our state is operating with a budget surplus. Look at it however you want, but a year or so ago we were 1 of only like 5 states who was operating in the black. Last time I checked even $.01 in the black is better than $1 million in the red.

Our state is growing and doing fairly well during a time when the rest of the country is more than struggling.

Your state almost had an inmate wins it's Democratic primary... is that because things are "doing fairly well"? Your coal mines & power plants are closing faster than stripclubs when the sun comes up. Half of your state is on foodstamps, drive cars that cost more than their mobile homes, and can't spell 8 letter words.

Does being an ODU fan exclude me from knowing anything of WV, since I spent half my childhood there and all? If I thought it was nice, I would have gone to Marshall or even better WVU.

anybody would win the democratic nomiantion in WVA other than that socialist we have in the white house. And yes the power plants are closing and the mines because again of the socialist in the white house. And have you ever been to SW Virginia ? Just as bad or worse than WVA. And btw your a jacka$$

You guys don't happen to be named Hatfield and McCoy, do you?

and there are no redneck idiots in TN either uh?

Yeap. They're called Vols fans. -

I'd rather have a sister working in the whorehouse than be from Virginia.

(05-31-2012 01:53 PM)Jassbale Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 01:47 PM)goherd17 Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 01:45 PM)Jassbale Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 01:44 PM)goherd17 Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 01:34 PM)OLD DIRTY Wrote:  Your state almost had an inmate wins it's Democratic primary... is that because things are "doing fairly well"? Your coal mines & power plants are closing faster than stripclubs when the sun comes up. Half of your state is on foodstamps, drive cars that cost more than their mobile homes, and can't spell 8 letter words.

Does being an ODU fan exclude me from knowing anything of WV, since I spent half my childhood there and all? If I thought it was nice, I would have gone to Marshall or even better WVU.

anybody would win the democratic nomiantion in WVA other than that socialist we have in the white house. And yes the power plants are closing and the mines because again of the socialist in the white house. And have you ever been to SW Virginia ? Just as bad or worse than WVA. And btw your a jacka$$

You guys don't happen to be named Hatfield and McCoy, do you?

and there are no redneck idiots in TN either uh?

Yeap. They're called Vols fans. -

She's looking at the situation all wrong. That's a free, padded back and head rest.

(05-31-2012 12:57 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(05-31-2012 09:42 AM)mufanatehc Wrote:  Besides, the north/south identifying marker is dying. Rising in its place is a urban/rural marker. People in Atlanta have more in common with people in New York, Philadelphia, and other major metros than they do with people in rural southern areas. And people in rural Pennsylvania have more in common with people in rural southern areas than they do with the average person in Philadelphia...

The man is right. My fiancee is a western PA girl. When I go there they are more like my hometown in South MS except they talk funny and they don't serve sweet tea. Same could be said for Oregon folks that shower and don't hug trees.

From my stint in NY I don't know if I could say if there were any resemblance to my hometown anywhere in that state.

Did you try the Upstate area around places like Olean, Jasper, and Horseheads?