CMU should take a look at Alabama assistant Dan Hipsher.

Maybe it doesn't need to be said but not only has Zeigler been let go but all of his assistants as well. With a number of players also leaving this really fits the definition of a house cleaning in sports.

In the 1970's a Toledo guard by the name of Cooper switched to BGSU and a BGSU guard named Kindle transferred to Toledo. It happened in the same year. Very strange timing. Both sat out a redshirt year. I am sure the rules have changed since then.

Go for Gene Cross.

(03-14-2012 03:12 PM)mollautt Wrote:  =>He can transfer to another MAC school. I can name 3 situations where it has happened before:

1) Jason Grunkemeyer from Ohio to Miami.
2) Nate Schindewolf from Miami to Akron.
3) Roefiloe Lethunya from Marshall to Miami.

There may be a league rule that if the school does not release a kid, the kid may have to sit out 2 years. I know John Groce would not release Marquis Horne a few years ago when he wanted to come to Miami after signing with Ohio. But in the examples I gave above, the players only sat out one year.

To my knowledge, no Michigan MAC schools have ever had players transfer between schools. Can you imagine the repercussions when that player entered the arena? Instead of toilet paper, it would be beer bottles!

Ernie Zeiger was a joke! He had a rotten mouth with no class. I watched him yell and scream everytime the visiting team was shooting foul shots in the second half of games. Total clown. Losing Trey isn't that huge of a lose. Very over rated!

(03-14-2012 08:09 PM)OSUFALCON Wrote:  . Losing Trey isn't that huge of a lose. Very over rated!

what??? Just because he only had 3 points against BG in the tourney doesn't mean he isn't good... He was recruited by UNC for gosh sakes. He's a terrible FT shooter, but other than that he is a Big East Calliber STARTER... I honestly don't think he gave a damn playing at CMU. I think he can be a stud at another program if he transfers.
46% FG%, and averaged 15.8ppg.

(03-14-2012 03:15 PM)BullBoy Wrote:  The rule is that a player can transfer to another MAC school, but they can't use their redshirt year as the year they must sit out so in essence they lose a full year of eligibility. If Zeigler went to another MAC school he would only have one year of eligibility in 2013-14.

I don't think he will transfer to a MAC school, but I don't believe the above stated rule is correct......unless it is a new rule I have not heard about. It all depends on how CMU releases him from his scholarship. They could release him with no restrictions (he could transfer anywhere and use a redshirt year as his year to sit out) or they could put restrictions on his release. Those restrictions can be whatever CMU wants them to be.

(03-14-2012 09:05 PM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  

(03-14-2012 03:15 PM)BullBoy Wrote:  The rule is that a player can transfer to another MAC school, but they can't use their redshirt year as the year they must sit out so in essence they lose a full year of eligibility. If Zeigler went to another MAC school he would only have one year of eligibility in 2013-14.

I don't think he will transfer to a MAC school, but I don't believe the above stated rule is correct......unless it is a new rule I have not heard about. It all depends on how CMU releases him from his scholarship. They could release him with no restrictions (he could transfer anywhere and use a redshirt year as his year to sit out) or they could put restrictions on his release. Those restrictions can be whatever CMU wants them to be.

EXACTLY!

(03-14-2012 09:31 PM)CHIPPEWA ENEMA Wrote:  

(03-14-2012 09:05 PM)BrianNowicki Wrote:  

(03-14-2012 03:15 PM)BullBoy Wrote:  The rule is that a player can transfer to another MAC school, but they can't use their redshirt year as the year they must sit out so in essence they lose a full year of eligibility. If Zeigler went to another MAC school he would only have one year of eligibility in 2013-14.

I don't think he will transfer to a MAC school, but I don't believe the above stated rule is correct......unless it is a new rule I have not heard about. It all depends on how CMU releases him from his scholarship. They could release him with no restrictions (he could transfer anywhere and use a redshirt year as his year to sit out) or they could put restrictions on his release. Those restrictions can be whatever CMU wants them to be.

EXACTLY!

I think he will get offers from bigger schools. Unless he were to go somewhere with his dad.

(03-14-2012 06:27 PM)Rocket75 Wrote:  In the 1970's a Toledo guard by the name of Cooper switched to BGSU and a BGSU guard named Kindle transferred to Toledo. It happened in the same year. Very strange timing. Both sat out a redshirt year. I am sure the rules have changed since then.

That was not a transfer-we traded Cooper for Kindle straightup. No players to be named later. Let's see-how did that work out? Cooper did nothing for BG, Kindle (out of Bedford, Mi) was an excellent player for UT. Kindle lso had the longest hair ever seen on a Bobby Nichols player.

Hard call with CMU. They have a few nice pieces, but the track record of Ernie is not good. With Trey they should have been a better team by now.[/align]

(03-14-2012 11:08 PM)OhioBobcatJohn Wrote:  Hard call with CMU. They have a few nice pieces, but the track record of Ernie is not good. With Trey they should have been a better team by now.[/align]

Someone on our board suggested CMU take a look at Ricardo Patton. However, I think that is considered cruel and unusual punishment and I would not even wish that on CMU. Maybe Toledo if they were looking for a new coach but not CMU. :)

(03-14-2012 06:07 PM)uakronkid Wrote:  CMU should take a look at Alabama assistant Dan Hipsher.

Good one.

Also, losing Trey won't be a big loss. Yes, high-major talent. But a low-major IQ and a terrible attitude.

ziegler would do best at a big time school w a hard as$ coach, although i doubt that's how it will end up. he is good but needs plenty of improvement and more energy on both ends. when i saw him he was only going full speed when he had the ball.

gotta think that was a good fire, not that any firing is really good but when its a guy who makes a few hundred grand a yr theres some leeway. central was the most talented team in the west. ziegler was blue chip. mcbroom was solid. mbaigoto was a hidden gem. coimbra could have been a good mac 4 w the right coaching. jackson had game. ziegler always seemed to shuffle players in and out and never had a cohesive plan or identity to his teams.

Gene Cross is available. LOL

Cross, Patton, Thompson- one ruined program after another.

(03-15-2012 04:03 AM)pono Wrote:  ziegler would do best at a big time school w a hard as$ coach, although i doubt that's how it will end up. he is good but needs plenty of improvement and more energy on both ends. when i saw him he was only going full speed when he had the ball.

gotta think that was a good fire, not that any firing is really good but when its a guy who makes a few hundred grand a yr theres some leeway. central was the most talented team in the west. ziegler was blue chip. mcbroom was solid. mbaigoto was a hidden gem. coimbra could have been a good mac 4 w the right coaching. jackson had game. ziegler always seemed to shuffle players in and out and never had a cohesive plan or identity to his teams.

CMU was probably the least talented team in the West. I'd rank NIU ahead of them in regards to overall talent.

If we're talking about solid D1 players, then NIU has got to be in that talk for best in the West. CMU is probably a close second. Toledo and EMU round out the bottom of the division.

(03-15-2012 09:01 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  If we're talking about solid D1 players, then NIU has got to be in that talk for best in the West. CMU is probably a close second. Toledo and EMU round out the bottom of the division.

I agree about NIU. When discussing solid D1 players you must talk about NIU not having many. Arguably their best player didn't finish the season, was out of shape and never worked very hard. Their next best was a frosh who, in true Jake Barnett fashion, may have looked better than he is by comparison to the rest of the roster. To say that they have more solid D1 players than UT is very wrong in my opinion.