http://www.csnphilly.com/ncaa/news/Templ...feedID=704

Actually, reading all of the reports it seems like a decision may already have been made and things are in the hands of the lawyers to work out the details. The athletic committee call was cancelled but the BoT executive committee did meet with one of the topics being the review of contracts, costs, details, etc. Of course there was no elaboration as to the details. I have a feeling if this is going to happen a formal announcement will be next week when the BE presidents meet at the bball tournament

(03-01-2012 10:55 AM)TUJim Wrote:  Actually, reading all of the reports it seems like a decision may already have been made and things are in the hands of the lawyers to work out the details. The athletic committee call was cancelled but the BoT executive committee did meet with one of the topics being the review of contracts, costs, details, etc. Of course there was no elaboration as to the details. I have a feeling if this is going to happen a formal announcement will be next week when the BE presidents meet at the bball tournament

I hope so. Expediting this is good for everyone. I'd like to see everyone pull for a win-win with this.

(03-01-2012 10:55 AM)TUJim Wrote:  I have a feeling if this is going to happen a formal announcement will be next week when the BE presidents meet at the bball tournament

Well by all means, take your time. Maybe wait until football practice starts to let the rest of us know what you've decided. No rush.

Hey, I feel the same as everyone else here. Just make a decision one way or the other, announce it and let everybody get on with their business.

(03-01-2012 10:59 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 10:55 AM)TUJim Wrote:  I have a feeling if this is going to happen a formal announcement will be next week when the BE presidents meet at the bball tournament

Well by all means, take your time. Maybe wait until football practice starts to let the rest of us know what you've decided. No rush.

I feel like the longer they wait only adds strength to the MAC's position and $$$ demands at the negotiating table.

Basically, Temple has little choice but to pay whatever it is the MAC office asks of them. "No thanks" is not an option. If it were to go to the lawyers and judges, an injunction would leave the contract in force until an agreement is worked out and that is not in Temple's best interest. If the BE wants them now, they need to pay what is asked and move on. They gain very little, or maybe they lose out entirely, by dragging it out.

They go in, make their best argument, and if the MAC is willing to negotiate a little, fine. If not, you pay and go anyway. Temple doesn't have any leverage about the cost. I know the MAC well enough to know they are not going to ask for some crazy exit fee. Temple can pay or stay, and if the BE is calling, they would be stupid to stay. It's the cost of doing business. It pays off in the long term. Hell, it probably pays off in the short term.

(03-01-2012 10:59 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 10:55 AM)TUJim Wrote:  I have a feeling if this is going to happen a formal announcement will be next week when the BE presidents meet at the bball tournament

Well by all means, take your time. Maybe wait until football practice starts to let the rest of us know what you've decided. No rush.

The plan even before this Temple to the BE stuff started was that the full schedule was going to be released the first full week in March. This is not delaying anything. I doubt the 8 other MAC teams that Temple was slotted to play are spending one second worrying about the Owl's.

I suspect that Temple's most challenging negotiation is with the Big East not the MAC or A-10. I think Axme is correct that the MAC is unlikely to make unreasonable financial demands. OTOH, their negotiation with the BE is likely complicated by discussion about the BE paying some portion of Temple's exit fees and Villanova considerations. Villanova is going to be compensated somehow as part of Temple entering the BE. Just how remains to be seen. Also, I suspect that Temple would prefer to have all of its teams join the BE in the 2012-2013 academic year and I can easily imagine that Villanova would push to have all Temple sports other than football join at the latest possible date.

This process has moved expeditiously compared to the other full member entries to the BE, especially considering that there are three conferences involved and the complicating presence of Villanova. Temple didn't create the realignment mess and there isn't any evidence that they've done anything other than operate in good faith with the MAC and A-10. Hopefully this gets resolved next week and everyone can move on.

(03-01-2012 11:40 AM)axeme Wrote:  Basically, Temple has little choice but to pay whatever it is the MAC office asks of them. "No thanks" is not an option. If it were to go to the lawyers and judges, an injunction would leave the contract in force until an agreement is worked out and that is not in Temple's best interest. If the BE wants them now, they need to pay what is asked and move on. They gain very little, or maybe they lose out entirely, by dragging it out.

They go in, make their best argument, and if the MAC is willing to negotiate a little, fine. If not, you pay and go anyway. Temple doesn't have any leverage about the cost. I know the MAC well enough to know they are not going to ask for some crazy exit fee. Temple can pay or stay, and if the BE is calling, they would be stupid to stay. It's the cost of doing business. It pays off in the long term. Hell, it probably pays off in the short term.

They would not be "stupid to stay" as the MAC is a solid conference, and the new "Big East" is a mystery which is already at best known to be a watered down version of the original. Having said that, I'd rather have a 5 million dollar check right now then Temple, so cough it up buttercup....

(03-01-2012 01:11 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 11:40 AM)axeme Wrote:  Basically, Temple has little choice but to pay whatever it is the MAC office asks of them. "No thanks" is not an option. If it were to go to the lawyers and judges, an injunction would leave the contract in force until an agreement is worked out and that is not in Temple's best interest. If the BE wants them now, they need to pay what is asked and move on. They gain very little, or maybe they lose out entirely, by dragging it out.

They go in, make their best argument, and if the MAC is willing to negotiate a little, fine. If not, you pay and go anyway. Temple doesn't have any leverage about the cost. I know the MAC well enough to know they are not going to ask for some crazy exit fee. Temple can pay or stay, and if the BE is calling, they would be stupid to stay. It's the cost of doing business. It pays off in the long term. Hell, it probably pays off in the short term.

They would not be "stupid to stay" as the MAC is a solid conference, and the new "Big East" is a mystery which is already at best known to be a watered down version of the original. Having said that, I'd rather have a 5 million dollar check right now then Temple, so cough it up buttercup....

MAC TV contract gives Temple $100,000K a yr...Temple may be looking at 100X that at the top end of estimates... Even if it is $5M a year it is well worth it to go...

MAC may be a solid football conference but it doesn't provide $$$ and Temple has a chance to be on the "inside" of the college landscape... Not to mention Temple basketball takes a step up as well if this goes thru...

(03-01-2012 01:27 PM)templefan1 Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 01:11 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 11:40 AM)axeme Wrote:  Basically, Temple has little choice but to pay whatever it is the MAC office asks of them. "No thanks" is not an option. If it were to go to the lawyers and judges, an injunction would leave the contract in force until an agreement is worked out and that is not in Temple's best interest. If the BE wants them now, they need to pay what is asked and move on. They gain very little, or maybe they lose out entirely, by dragging it out.

They go in, make their best argument, and if the MAC is willing to negotiate a little, fine. If not, you pay and go anyway. Temple doesn't have any leverage about the cost. I know the MAC well enough to know they are not going to ask for some crazy exit fee. Temple can pay or stay, and if the BE is calling, they would be stupid to stay. It's the cost of doing business. It pays off in the long term. Hell, it probably pays off in the short term.

They would not be "stupid to stay" as the MAC is a solid conference, and the new "Big East" is a mystery which is already at best known to be a watered down version of the original. Having said that, I'd rather have a 5 million dollar check right now then Temple, so cough it up buttercup....

MAC TV contract gives Temple $100,000K a yr...Temple may be looking at 100X that at the top end of estimates... Even if it is $5M a year it is well worth it to go...

MAC may be a solid football conference but it doesn't provide $$$ and Temple has a chance to be on the "inside" of the college landscape... Not to mention Temple basketball takes a step up as well if this goes thru...

Agreed I think Temple is making the right choice, I just don't know what the MAC was thinking with Temple originally. A football only school (with no options at the time of entrance) who were looking to build their program up to eventually leave. It was a bad move to bring Temple in at the time. Temple OWES the MAC its actual survival. That being said Temple is making the right choice to go to the Big East now.

(03-01-2012 01:11 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 11:40 AM)axeme Wrote:  Basically, Temple has little choice but to pay whatever it is the MAC office asks of them. "No thanks" is not an option. If it were to go to the lawyers and judges, an injunction would leave the contract in force until an agreement is worked out and that is not in Temple's best interest. If the BE wants them now, they need to pay what is asked and move on. They gain very little, or maybe they lose out entirely, by dragging it out.

They go in, make their best argument, and if the MAC is willing to negotiate a little, fine. If not, you pay and go anyway. Temple doesn't have any leverage about the cost. I know the MAC well enough to know they are not going to ask for some crazy exit fee. Temple can pay or stay, and if the BE is calling, they would be stupid to stay. It's the cost of doing business. It pays off in the long term. Hell, it probably pays off in the short term.

They would not be "stupid to stay" as the MAC is a solid conference, and the new "Big East" is a mystery which is already at best known to be a watered down version of the original. Having said that, I'd rather have a 5 million dollar check right now then Temple, so cough it up buttercup....

I think Temple would be stupid to stay in the MAC if they have an offer to play in the BE. It's a much better fit with the opportunity to have all-sports in one conference, upgrading the basketball conference at the same time as football. It's really a no-brainer.

For other teams not in an AQ conference now? Who wouldn't take the offer? There are no other MAC teams who would get an offer, so it's really a moot point.

http://www.csnphilly.com/ncaa/news/Templ...feedID=697

This article has been updated. Sounds like the MAC isn't happy.

(03-01-2012 12:01 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 10:59 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 10:55 AM)TUJim Wrote:  I have a feeling if this is going to happen a formal announcement will be next week when the BE presidents meet at the bball tournament

Well by all means, take your time. Maybe wait until football practice starts to let the rest of us know what you've decided. No rush.

The plan even before this Temple to the BE stuff started was that the full schedule was going to be released the first full week in March. This is not delaying anything. I doubt the 8 other MAC teams that Temple was slotted to play are spending one second worrying about the Owl's.

The MAC has our football schedule ready to go.

http://www.csnphilly.com/ncaa/news/Templ...feedID=697

(03-01-2012 12:01 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 10:59 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 10:55 AM)TUJim Wrote:  I have a feeling if this is going to happen a formal announcement will be next week when the BE presidents meet at the bball tournament

Well by all means, take your time. Maybe wait until football practice starts to let the rest of us know what you've decided. No rush.

The plan even before this Temple to the BE stuff started was that the full schedule was going to be released the first full week in March. This is not delaying anything. I doubt the 8 other MAC teams that Temple was slotted to play are spending one second worrying about the Owl's.

yea I mean I'm Psyched that UB may have to pay for another game! The two teams in the West that TU was supposed to play can just be given to a team in the East but two four MAC east teams will have to find another game.

Or the conference schedule has to be completely redone.

(03-01-2012 10:59 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 10:55 AM)TUJim Wrote:  I have a feeling if this is going to happen a formal announcement will be next week when the BE presidents meet at the bball tournament

Well by all means, take your time. Maybe wait until football practice starts to let the rest of us know what you've decided. No rush.

The thing is, right before the b-ball tournament might be a BAD time to announce publicly. THey would want the focus to be on the torunament not Temple. I would hope that they at least let the MAC know what is going on so the MAC can prepare for a possible change if they put the announcement off until after the tournament.

(03-01-2012 02:03 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 12:01 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 10:59 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 10:55 AM)TUJim Wrote:  I have a feeling if this is going to happen a formal announcement will be next week when the BE presidents meet at the bball tournament

Well by all means, take your time. Maybe wait until football practice starts to let the rest of us know what you've decided. No rush.

The plan even before this Temple to the BE stuff started was that the full schedule was going to be released the first full week in March. This is not delaying anything. I doubt the 8 other MAC teams that Temple was slotted to play are spending one second worrying about the Owl's.

yea I mean I'm Psyched that UB may have to pay for another game! The two teams in the West that TU was supposed to play can just be given to a team in the East but two four MAC east teams will have to find another game.

Or the conference schedule has to be completely redone.

Well at least in the latest article it sounds like the MAC is making a stand to make sure we are looked after.

I was just basing my guess on the fact that the Big East has a 72 hour notice before holding a meeting to take a vote.

(03-01-2012 02:05 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 10:59 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(03-01-2012 10:55 AM)TUJim Wrote:  I have a feeling if this is going to happen a formal announcement will be next week when the BE presidents meet at the bball tournament

Well by all means, take your time. Maybe wait until football practice starts to let the rest of us know what you've decided. No rush.

The thing is, right before the b-ball tournament might be a BAD time to announce publicly. THey would want the focus to be on the torunament not Temple. I would hope that they at least let the MAC know what is going on so the MAC can prepare for a possible change if they put the announcement off until after the tournament.

10Mil minimum. Pay up or enjoy the next two years here and your invite to the Big East will not happen.