The offensive play calling left something to be desired, but the defense just lacks talent. I thought the team was ready to play, they just couldn't keep up. I'll wait a season before I judge the coaching staff though, I think I, and probably a lot of others, underestimated just how much our losses on D would hurt us this year.

Crazy idea after just -3- games...We played a top 10 team that came to Chicago ready to play some football. We just can not hang in that stratosphere. We will struggle this year with that D of ours, but that should not be a surprise to anyone. We are looking @ 8-4 or 7-5.

here we go again this is every week thing what would you have done as over matched as we were? Get real!

I love how people keep trying to legitimize this loss. People are disappointed because we weren't even competitive and we should have been. We have no business losing to anyone by 42 points.

I have some news for you all. We played the #1 team in the nation in 2006 (Ohio State) and we were more competitive than we were against the so-called #7 team yesterday.

Wisconsin may be the top team in the Big Ten (still to be determined) but that conference is shaping up to have another bad year. I also highly doubt Wisconsin plays for or wins the national championship.

There are issues but my big concern is the STUPIDITY of the on-sides kick. You don't get it and have your piss poor D in a bad place.

i didnt mind the on-sides kick....almost worked but it seemed that when we did not get the ball, the coaches just gave up.....the team seemed to do nothing interesting after that.

(09-18-2011 04:06 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  I love how people keep trying to legitimize this loss. People are disappointed because we weren't even competitive and we should have been. We have no business losing to anyone by 42 points.

I have some news for you all. We played the #1 team in the nation in 2006 (Ohio State) and we were more competitive than we were against the so-called #7 team yesterday.

Wisconsin may be the top team in the Big Ten (still to be determined) but that conference is shaping up to have another bad year. I also highly doubt Wisconsin plays for or wins the national championship.

My only disappoint me is that I felt like the plan of attack was a little out of character, it seemed we almost wet the bed a little bit, and not quite ready for the moment and intiimidated, both players and coaches. I kind of agree with HuskieHussy in that I feel like NIU did not put up its best fight. I dont think we were any more competitive vs OSU. I really feel OSU could have put up as many points as they wanted in that game, and I never felt like NIU had a chance to move the ball.

(09-18-2011 04:14 PM)houstonhuskie Wrote:  i didnt mind the on-sides kick....almost worked but it seemed that when we did not get the ball, the coaches just gave up.....the team seemed to do nothing interesting after that.

Agreed, after that play it really seemed to go into, lets not embarass ourselves too badly and keep it safe.

(09-18-2011 04:18 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-18-2011 04:06 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  I love how people keep trying to legitimize this loss. People are disappointed because we weren't even competitive and we should have been. We have no business losing to anyone by 42 points.

I have some news for you all. We played the #1 team in the nation in 2006 (Ohio State) and we were more competitive than we were against the so-called #7 team yesterday.

Wisconsin may be the top team in the Big Ten (still to be determined) but that conference is shaping up to have another bad year. I also highly doubt Wisconsin plays for or wins the national championship.

My only disappoint me is that I felt like the plan of attack was a little out of character, it seemed we almost wet the bed a little bit, and not quite ready for the moment and intiimidated, both players and coaches. I kind of agree with HuskieHussy in that I feel like NIU did not put up its best fight. I dont think we were any more competitive vs OSU. I really feel OSU could have put up as many points as they wanted in that game, and I never felt like NIU had a chance to move the ball.

To say this game was a disappointment is an understatement. I think everyone felt we legitimately had a shot a keeping this one close.

My point was that we maybe overrated how good this team is.

We all knew our defense was bad. The offense seemed to move the ball at the beginning of the game, but when matched against one of the elite defenses in the nation, we were exposed. You won't see many teams scoring many points against the Badgers this year.

All I'm saying is let's calm down and see how this team does in the MAC before calling Doeren a bust.

I'm not happy with the timout usage the last couple of games but I'm hoping experience will iron that out.

It's not too early to complain or make suggestions, but it is waaaaaayyyy to early to hang Doeren. It sucks to lose, but get a grip on reality.

(09-18-2011 04:24 PM)niuliger09 Wrote:  

(09-18-2011 04:18 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-18-2011 04:06 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  I love how people keep trying to legitimize this loss. People are disappointed because we weren't even competitive and we should have been. We have no business losing to anyone by 42 points.

I have some news for you all. We played the #1 team in the nation in 2006 (Ohio State) and we were more competitive than we were against the so-called #7 team yesterday.

Wisconsin may be the top team in the Big Ten (still to be determined) but that conference is shaping up to have another bad year. I also highly doubt Wisconsin plays for or wins the national championship.

My only disappoint me is that I felt like the plan of attack was a little out of character, it seemed we almost wet the bed a little bit, and not quite ready for the moment and intiimidated, both players and coaches. I kind of agree with HuskieHussy in that I feel like NIU did not put up its best fight. I dont think we were any more competitive vs OSU. I really feel OSU could have put up as many points as they wanted in that game, and I never felt like NIU had a chance to move the ball.

To say this game was a disappointment is an understatement. I think everyone felt we legitimately had a shot a keeping this one close.

My point was that we maybe overrated how good this team is.

We all knew our defense was bad. The offense seemed to move the ball at the beginning of the game, but when matched against one of the elite defenses in the nation, we were exposed. You won't see many teams scoring many points against the Badgers this year.

All I'm saying is let's calm down and see how this team does in the MAC before calling Doeren a bust.

I think NIU did more to stop itself on offense than Wisconsin did though

(09-17-2011 11:46 PM)WhiskeyDick Wrote:  I could prepare myself 1000 percent to fight Mike Tyson. But fact is he'd still beat the living **** out of me within 2 minutes of the opening bell.

I'd pay to see that fight!

(09-18-2011 04:18 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-18-2011 04:06 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  I love how people keep trying to legitimize this loss. People are disappointed because we weren't even competitive and we should have been. We have no business losing to anyone by 42 points.

I have some news for you all. We played the #1 team in the nation in 2006 (Ohio State) and we were more competitive than we were against the so-called #7 team yesterday.

Wisconsin may be the top team in the Big Ten (still to be determined) but that conference is shaping up to have another bad year. I also highly doubt Wisconsin plays for or wins the national championship.

My only disappoint me is that I felt like the plan of attack was a little out of character, it seemed we almost wet the bed a little bit, and not quite ready for the moment and intiimidated, both players and coaches. I kind of agree with HuskieHussy in that I feel like NIU did not put up its best fight. I dont think we were any more competitive vs OSU. I really feel OSU could have put up as many points as they wanted in that game, and I never felt like NIU had a chance to move the ball.

If i recall correctly we got into the redzone at least three to four times against Ohio State. Our only offensive weapon that year was Garrett Wolfe.

We only got into the redzone once against Wisconsin. We have way more offensive firepower than that 2006 team had.

That Ohio State team played in the national championship game and was likely better than this Wisconsin team.

(09-17-2011 11:46 PM)WhiskeyDick Wrote:  I could prepare myself 1000 percent to fight Mike Tyson. But fact is he'd still beat the living **** out of me within 2 minutes of the opening bell.

I'd pay good money to see that...

Give DD at least a few MAC games before we run him out of town...Army is a wierd-a$$ team to prep for and he did well, KU was close and could have gone either way, and we had nothing yesterday, so in order he gets 'B', then a 'C', then a 'D' (or did not finish) grade so far. But if we do poorly against CMU and WMU, and I'll drive DD back home to Wisc or Kansas or wherever he's from, and then pick up PJ on the way back.

Who knows what the players are saying, or hinting, about what the new coaches are doing? Anyone hear any rumors?

Lastly, if WD does fight Tyson, can you quickly (before he swings) ask him why his voice is so effeminate?

I figured people would be calling for Doeren's firing after a couple of games, so we lasted longer than I thought.

Remember when Chandler first started and our entire playbook was runs? The only thing that Chandler did was designed runs. Everyone was calling for Kill's head. Then there was last season and look how good our offense was? Give this staff more than just 3 OOC games to prove itself. I know we have high expectations, but like coach says, their goals are all still attainable. And if we make it to Detroit this year and actually win, you'll forget all about the Wisconsin game!

(09-17-2011 09:40 PM)badmoonrising_13 Wrote:  I apologize... I'm just mad because when fans should have been upset after we lost a winnable game, people were posting that I was overreacting. We lost a game we should lose and people are calling for heads. I guess I'm just as irrational as anyone else.

I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but this is now 2 games in a row where the strategy and adjustments have failed.

(09-18-2011 05:47 PM)NIU84 Wrote:  Give DD at least a few MAC games before we run him out of town...Army is a wierd-a$$ team to prep for and he did well, KU was close and could have gone either way, and we had nothing yesterday, so in order he gets 'B', then a 'C', then a 'D' (or did not finish) grade so far. But if we do poorly against CMU and WMU, and I'll drive DD back home to Wisc or Kansas or wherever he's from, and then pick up PJ on the way back.

Who knows what the players are saying, or hinting, about what the new coaches are doing? Anyone hear any rumors?

Lastly, if WD does fight Tyson, can you quickly (before he swings) ask him why his voice is so effeminate?

My problem is not that we lost, it was the complete lack of competitiveness.

Army was great(although you had a long time to prepare for their wacky offense), and obviously Army is ok (they beat NU).

KU..we couldn't stop the run, were terrible on kickoff coverage, corners got torched etc,

WISC.. THEY HAD 620ish yards of offense...I understand we lost some players, that WISC has better players then we do....However most defenses are good because of the strategy or scheme. Jay Nieman is overmatched, DD needs to take control of the defense(and if he already has then this is worse then I thought).

Though maybe we should have seen this coming on offense. Canada got his rear handed to him when he call plays at IU last year too.

(09-18-2011 11:24 PM)Doeren Identity Wrote:  Remember when Chandler first started and our entire playbook was runs? The only thing that Chandler did was designed runs. Everyone was calling for Kill's head. Then there was last season and look how good our offense was? Give this staff more than just 3 OOC games to prove itself. I know we have high expectations, but like coach says, their goals are all still attainable. And if we make it to Detroit this year and actually win, you'll forget all about the Wisconsin game!

Yeah but if you watched the tapes from last year you know now how to use him effectively. And if this coaching staff doesn't know that, then shame on them.