Now before I get started I'm sure there are quite a few of you that read the title of this thread and said, "Who the **** cares what you think?"

Well, you can go away.

This is strictly from a Troy fan's perspective...

I am immensely disappointed in this team so far this year. In fact, I'll go on to say that even if we go through the conference undefeated (long shot) that this season will still be somewhat disappointing.

Now, granted, I never thought we were going to beat Oklahoma State...but we put ourselves into position to win that game a few times and each time...choked it away.

We should have destroyed UAB. Yet, due to piss poor coaching and sorry ass discipline we choked that game away as well. (Even though we really won the game, THANKS REFS!)

As for the one win of the year against BG...that was probably the most unimpressive win I've seen in a long while.

So, my point is this...

The game has passed Larry Blakeney by miles and miles. Say whatever you want about how he brought Troy up through the ranks and has won conference championships. To hell with that bull****.

I mean honestly, how many times do you have to watch the man throw away games. Throw away games late with the lead? How many times can he prove he can't coach worth a damn before you "Blakeney loyalists" open your eyes and become disgusted with the sorry results.

I'm not going to go through all of them but the worst being... LSU 08', last two bowl games against Southern Miss and Central Michigan, Oklahoma State and UAB this year. Florida State a few years back. etc...etc...


In most if not all of these type of games we had the lead late in the game and, due to poor coaching, choked it away hard. Miserably hard. Disgusting. I'm not satisfied with these results. So, please explain why you are...

Oh, and for anyone who is going to say, "Who would you replace him with?" or "How could Troy get better than Larry?"

How about anyone who had enough common ******* sense to run the *** **** ball with a lead late in the fourth. Which is about 90% of all 15 year old kids playing career mode in NCAA 11'.

I want to mention that while Paul is entitled to his opinion, his views do not represent the entire Trojan fanbase. I am in favor of keeping Larry and still believe he is a fine leader.

(09-20-2010 04:20 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  I want to mention that while Paul is entitled to his opinion, his views do not represent the entire Trojan fanbase. I am in favor of keeping Larry and still believe he is a fine leader.

Well, instead of posting something stupidly obvious why don't you explain the second part of your post. Exactly why is Larry such an amazing coach and "leader".

(09-20-2010 04:39 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  

(09-20-2010 04:20 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  I want to mention that while Paul is entitled to his opinion, his views do not represent the entire Trojan fanbase. I am in favor of keeping Larry and still believe he is a fine leader.

Well, instead of posting something stupidly obvious why don't you explain the second part of your post. Exactly why is Larry such an amazing coach and "leader".

No need to call my posts stupid Paul, I didn't say anything negative about yours. I have my reasons, and they are mine alone. I don't want to get in an argument on this board about Larry. I just didn't want everyone to think all Troy fans felt the same way as you.

I think Howard Schnellenberger may be looking for a position.....? Just a thought....

(09-20-2010 04:47 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(09-20-2010 04:39 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  

(09-20-2010 04:20 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  I want to mention that while Paul is entitled to his opinion, his views do not represent the entire Trojan fanbase. I am in favor of keeping Larry and still believe he is a fine leader.

Well, instead of posting something stupidly obvious why don't you explain the second part of your post. Exactly why is Larry such an amazing coach and "leader".

No need to call my posts stupid Paul, I didn't say anything negative about yours. I have my reasons, and they are mine alone. I don't want to get in an argument on this board about Larry. I just didn't want everyone to think all Troy fans felt the same way as you.

Way to add to the conversation.

So a couple years ago after the LSU game, the next morning on the plane back to Birmingham, my Dad mentioned that Troy needs to get rid of LB and find someone with some common sense to run the ball with such a huge lead in the 4th, on the road, against a top 20 ranked SEC opponent, which would have been a huge feather in the cap of a rising program. I had to disagree, and say that there's no way they'd be near what they are without him.

Two years has passed, and a handful of other sure wins have slipped away in the same manner, and I have to question the play-calling. At some point, a leader steps in, tells the OC if he calls another pass, he can find his own damn way home, because it will not be on the team bus/plane, and to clear out his office when he gets back to Troy. I don't care if Robinson had 400 yards passing, I don't care if it should have/would have been caught. There were 3 RB's averaging over 4 a carry. Run it twice with any one of them, reduce the game clock even more, then punt away. And what about a DB making sure that a pass is not caught on the final play, no matter what. Hit him early, hit him hard. Take the penalty. Interfere unless it is a bad throw. All it gives the opposition is another play. And how about rushing someone on the QB to get some pressure on him. I could chuck it 44 yards if I had all day.

I'm still a supporter of the team, the players, the coaches, etc. But at some point you notice a pattern.

I don't think there is any debate he has taken the program a long way. I don't think there is serious debate that he and his staff have done an outstanding job recruiting to what in many ways is one of the harder places to sell to recruits in the league.

But in this business, you either advance or fall, don't believe me? Ask Darrell Dickey.

Troy (like ASU, like La.Tech) isn't going to be considered for CUSA membership if in the future that remains desirable as an option because they don't fit the community model and the only way they've departed from it has been when programs draw large (by their standards) crowds and crack the rankings. While the lay down and die losers of the world who have the vision of a blind man say you can't BCS bust in the Sun Belt, the numbers say that argument is BS. The problem is two-fold: first reasonable scheduling (not Larry's fault) and the second is pulling out close games to be a consistent 9 and 10 game winner to prepare for the BCS busting 12-0 run. Is Larry getting you there? I know what the answer is at ASU and that's why I hold the opinion I have of Roberts.

(09-20-2010 04:47 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  I think Howard Schnellenberger may be looking for a position.....? Just a thought....

No, Howard has job security... he's an owl for life!!!!

I'm probably the last person whose opinion might interest you, but as a disinterested observer on Saturday, I'll share what I noticed.

Note that I offer the following not knowing a wit about your depth/experience situation:

1. I think your offense is just fine. That you can get that kind of QB play out of a freshman is very impressive.

2. I think your D looked lost most of the game. When we made the QB change, you appeared to have no answer.

3. I'll never understand your last possession. If you just run the ball (whether you get a first down or not) you force us to burn our last timeout earlier, and eat a lot more clock. And frankly, the way you were running, you'd have likely gotten the one additional first down you needed to put us away.

All of the above goes directly to coaching.

Now, a word on coaching (since you've read this far) the "who we gonna get?" isn't a good argument against making a move on a coach if he's not getting it done. There's always SOMEBODY.

Now, the question is, is Blakeney getting it done? I haven't watched you enough to know, other than what I saw Saturday. And "it" is also defined by more than just wins and losses. There's academics, "molding of young men" etc. Callaway has done a good job of getting that particular house in order, but I have some of the same questions about him. However, that's another thread, for another board.

Anywho, that's my two cents, worth exactly what you paid for it.

(09-20-2010 04:47 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(09-20-2010 04:39 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  

(09-20-2010 04:20 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  I want to mention that while Paul is entitled to his opinion, his views do not represent the entire Trojan fanbase. I am in favor of keeping Larry and still believe he is a fine leader.

Well, instead of posting something stupidly obvious why don't you explain the second part of your post. Exactly why is Larry such an amazing coach and "leader".

No need to call my posts stupid Paul, I didn't say anything negative about yours. I have my reasons, and they are mine alone. I don't want to get in an argument on this board about Larry. I just didn't want everyone to think all Troy fans felt the same way as you.

You know Greg, I was going to leave it alone. However, I want to know why you are satisfied with these results. I want to know why you are entrenched behind Larry. And I want to know why you are so afraid to let people know why. Did you have an intimate moment with him behind closed doors? I'm sorry, I just don't see this as something that you should be "hiding". It doesn't really make sense.

(09-21-2010 07:54 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  

(09-20-2010 04:47 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(09-20-2010 04:39 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  

(09-20-2010 04:20 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  I want to mention that while Paul is entitled to his opinion, his views do not represent the entire Trojan fanbase. I am in favor of keeping Larry and still believe he is a fine leader.

Well, instead of posting something stupidly obvious why don't you explain the second part of your post. Exactly why is Larry such an amazing coach and "leader".

No need to call my posts stupid Paul, I didn't say anything negative about yours. I have my reasons, and they are mine alone. I don't want to get in an argument on this board about Larry. I just didn't want everyone to think all Troy fans felt the same way as you.

You know Greg, I was going to leave it alone. However, I want to know why you are satisfied with these results. I want to know why you are entrenched behind Larry. And I want to know why you are so afraid to let people know why. Did you have an intimate moment with him behind closed doors? I'm sorry, I just don't see this as something that you should be "hiding". It doesn't really make sense.

Not a Troy fan but IMO you are way out of line with your responce to his post and you need to take this to the Troy message board.

(09-21-2010 07:54 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  You know Greg, I was going to leave it alone. However, I want to know why you are satisfied with these results. I want to know why you are entrenched behind Larry. And I want to know why you are so afraid to let people know why. Did you have an intimate moment with him behind closed doors? I'm sorry, I just don't see this as something that you should be "hiding". It doesn't really make sense.

I don't have to tell you anything Paul. I don't want air our dirty laundry here on the Belt bbs board and I'm not going to do it. I made the previous post because I wanted everyone to know your opinion was not the only opinion among our fanbase, nothing more. You need to back off me, Seminole Indian is right.

(09-21-2010 08:10 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(09-21-2010 07:54 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  

(09-20-2010 04:47 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(09-20-2010 04:39 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  

(09-20-2010 04:20 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  I want to mention that while Paul is entitled to his opinion, his views do not represent the entire Trojan fanbase. I am in favor of keeping Larry and still believe he is a fine leader.

Well, instead of posting something stupidly obvious why don't you explain the second part of your post. Exactly why is Larry such an amazing coach and "leader".

No need to call my posts stupid Paul, I didn't say anything negative about yours. I have my reasons, and they are mine alone. I don't want to get in an argument on this board about Larry. I just didn't want everyone to think all Troy fans felt the same way as you.

You know Greg, I was going to leave it alone. However, I want to know why you are satisfied with these results. I want to know why you are entrenched behind Larry. And I want to know why you are so afraid to let people know why. Did you have an intimate moment with him behind closed doors? I'm sorry, I just don't see this as something that you should be "hiding". It doesn't really make sense.

Not a Troy fan but IMO you are way out of line with your responce to his post and you need to take this to the Troy message board.

First of all this is a SBC message board, so this thread is fine where it is.

I am sorry if I have a problem with people who tell me I'm wrong and then don't have the balls to say as to why they think that way.

Just add as well, Indian...if you don't like it then refer back to my original post. Preferably the part where I state that you can go away.

(09-21-2010 10:04 AM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(09-21-2010 07:54 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  You know Greg, I was going to leave it alone. However, I want to know why you are satisfied with these results. I want to know why you are entrenched behind Larry. And I want to know why you are so afraid to let people know why. Did you have an intimate moment with him behind closed doors? I'm sorry, I just don't see this as something that you should be "hiding". It doesn't really make sense.

I don't have to tell you anything Paul. I don't want air our dirty laundry here on the Belt bbs board and I'm not going to do it. I made the previous post because I wanted everyone to know your opinion was not the only opinion among our fanbase, nothing more. You need to back off me, Seminole Indian is right.

Okay fine. Hide behind your little buddies so you don't have to be a man and explain your opinions. Just scream them from the mountain top and duck into your hole.

(09-21-2010 10:54 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  

(09-21-2010 10:04 AM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(09-21-2010 07:54 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  You know Greg, I was going to leave it alone. However, I want to know why you are satisfied with these results. I want to know why you are entrenched behind Larry. And I want to know why you are so afraid to let people know why. Did you have an intimate moment with him behind closed doors? I'm sorry, I just don't see this as something that you should be "hiding". It doesn't really make sense.

I don't have to tell you anything Paul. I don't want air our dirty laundry here on the Belt bbs board and I'm not going to do it. I made the previous post because I wanted everyone to know your opinion was not the only opinion among our fanbase, nothing more. You need to back off me, Seminole Indian is right.

Okay fine. Hide behind your little buddies so you don't have to be a man and explain your opinions. Just scream them from the mountain top and duck into your hole.

You really need to leave the guy alone. He doesn't have to explain anything to you. This is the same problem we have on the other board. No one can voice their opinion without someone getting upset.

Explaining your posts on a message board doesn't define you as a man. I'm sure both of you are in your own respects, but men are not defined by what happens on a message board. He did you no wrong - if your ego is hurt, that's your problem, he (nor I) owes you any kind of response.

(09-21-2010 11:03 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(09-21-2010 10:54 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  

(09-21-2010 10:04 AM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(09-21-2010 07:54 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  You know Greg, I was going to leave it alone. However, I want to know why you are satisfied with these results. I want to know why you are entrenched behind Larry. And I want to know why you are so afraid to let people know why. Did you have an intimate moment with him behind closed doors? I'm sorry, I just don't see this as something that you should be "hiding". It doesn't really make sense.

I don't have to tell you anything Paul. I don't want air our dirty laundry here on the Belt bbs board and I'm not going to do it. I made the previous post because I wanted everyone to know your opinion was not the only opinion among our fanbase, nothing more. You need to back off me, Seminole Indian is right.

Okay fine. Hide behind your little buddies so you don't have to be a man and explain your opinions. Just scream them from the mountain top and duck into your hole.

You really need to leave the guy alone. He doesn't have to explain anything to you. This is the same problem we have on the other board. No one can voice their opinion without someone getting upset.

Explaining your posts on a message board doesn't define you as a man. I'm sure both of you are in your own respects, but men are not defined by what happens on a message board. He did you no wrong - if your ego is hurt, that's your problem, he (nor I) owes you any kind of response.

Whatever. You're reading comprehension needs some touch up work though. I never said anything about a message board action defining what a man is...

I implied that a man is someone who will stand by what they say and won't hide behind bull ****. Hence my, "scream from the mtn top/hide in hole"

I know all you Troy boys cling to each other pretty tight though, so I guess it is pointless to try to get any of you to explain the few thoughts that pass through your heads. My bad! I'm sorry if I like to have some substance in a conversation instead of just, "Nope, you're wrong. Bye!"

Edit: TroyFB05. If you are not a Troy boy, then I apologize. I should have said, "Then get your nose out of Ignorance's 'ass' and attempt to clarify bold, faceless statements. Otherwise, it adds nothing to conversation whatsoever."

Wait.

What was this thread about, again?

(09-21-2010 11:20 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  

(09-21-2010 11:03 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(09-21-2010 10:54 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  

(09-21-2010 10:04 AM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(09-21-2010 07:54 AM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  You know Greg, I was going to leave it alone. However, I want to know why you are satisfied with these results. I want to know why you are entrenched behind Larry. And I want to know why you are so afraid to let people know why. Did you have an intimate moment with him behind closed doors? I'm sorry, I just don't see this as something that you should be "hiding". It doesn't really make sense.

I don't have to tell you anything Paul. I don't want air our dirty laundry here on the Belt bbs board and I'm not going to do it. I made the previous post because I wanted everyone to know your opinion was not the only opinion among our fanbase, nothing more. You need to back off me, Seminole Indian is right.

Okay fine. Hide behind your little buddies so you don't have to be a man and explain your opinions. Just scream them from the mountain top and duck into your hole.

You really need to leave the guy alone. He doesn't have to explain anything to you. This is the same problem we have on the other board. No one can voice their opinion without someone getting upset.

Explaining your posts on a message board doesn't define you as a man. I'm sure both of you are in your own respects, but men are not defined by what happens on a message board. He did you no wrong - if your ego is hurt, that's your problem, he (nor I) owes you any kind of response.

Whatever. You're reading comprehension needs some touch up work though. I never said anything about a message board action defining what a man is...

I implied that a man is someone who will stand by what they say and won't hide behind bull ****. Hence my, "scream from the mtn top/hide in hole"

I know all you Troy boys cling to each other pretty tight though, so I guess it is pointless to try to get any of you to explain the few thoughts that pass through your heads. My bad! I'm sorry if I like to have some substance in a conversation instead of just, "Nope, you're wrong. Bye!"

I've explained myself many times on the other board. It's not the explaining part that makes me not want to respond. It's the nature in which you, and some on the troy board, converse with people. Myself, and BTH, would probably talk football with you if you weren't being a jerk about it. It's healthy to dicuss opinions, but I don't think it's healthy when everytime I want to talk Troy football, someone gets bent out of shape.

That's the main reason why I just don't want to talk about Troy Football or the UAB loss right now. Everyone's mad and they're taking out on eachother. I don't want to be a part of that.

(09-21-2010 11:21 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Wait.

What was this thread about, again?

Paul said....

Then BTH said....

Then Paul said...

etc etc etc...