15+ Mil for each football school

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/101349094.html

(08-23-2010 11:01 PM)Orange Eagles Wrote:  15+ Mil for each football school

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/101349094.html

Great find. Let's do it!!!!

If that is in anyway accurate on the per school numbers which I doubt unless they're taking into account the traditional media rights deals for the big games, bowl revenue and NCAA revenue which is possible. If that's the case then we should see what those numbers look like with various configurations including the 4 usual non-BCS suspects, the usual ACC suspects (our 3 former colleagues, FSU, UMD), the Big 12 North schools and of course Penn State. It could be realistic to bring Miami, BC and/or Maryland (back) in to the fold especially BC.

(08-23-2010 11:17 PM)WacoBearcat Wrote:  

(08-23-2010 11:01 PM)Orange Eagles Wrote:  15+ Mil for each football school

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/101349094.html

Great find. Let's do it!!!!

+1....Of course it won't bring in the cash like the B10 network does, but it can be a revenue producer

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$80 million for a TV network? I'd like to see how they arrived at that number. I'm going to assume that the $80 million is after the network is fully developed. Although, I'm not sure how long that will take. In which TV markets and for how much? That $80 million is more than the Big 10 institutions received in the first few years of the BTN. I guess I'm skeptical about that much revenue in a TV network when the BE is constantly screwed for their TV contract. I don't have buck's analysis handy to see how close that is to the numbers he estimated.

Anyway, if we use the articles numbers as a basis for calculations:

$15.2 million/year * 8 FB schools = $121.6 million/year
$7.5 million/year * 8 'BB' schools = $60 million/year

Total = $181.6/year

So, if you subtract out the $80 million in the article for a BE conference network, that means the conference would need to come up with $100 million per year from ABC/ESPN and everything else (bowl games, NCAA and BE tourney, etc). Right now, all of the BE TV rights (including BB games on CBS) are worth ~ $25-$30 million/year, IIRC. I figure the Bowl games $20-$25 million and the BB credits+BE tourney is ~ $25 million.

$27.5 + $22.5 + $25 = $75 million. This means that there would need to be additional revenue of $25 from somewhere to make up the difference - assuming my estimates are correct. I'm not sure if that $25 million could come from the ABC/ESPN TV contracts considering that would double the current TV contract and the networks would be getting less content.

those #s just don't seem to add up. the 80 million divided by only the 8 football schools would be 10 mil per year. assuming that 30 mil of that would be non football related, you would have more like 50 mil divided 8 ways, which would be 6 mil for football, and another 1. 6 mil for other sports. not bad but you have to get tons from elswhere to even get close to 15 mil.

I'll go +1 as well on this one...

I'll also say if Marinatto doesn't pursue the network, we should fire him (using gasoline and matches) and get ourselves a new commish tuit suite. One who puts football interests where they belong, at the head of the list...

For those who question those numbers, the email address for the company that did the research is... info@navigatemarketing.com

I am not questioning the 80 mil. But that doesnt get 15 mil per fb team. Unless of course the BB schools get 0, and the new all sport members also get 0. 80 mil divided by 5 gets you 16. So congrats to the old BE schools, sorry newbies.

Whatever you question, email Navigate Marketing, stop the stupid speculations and ridiculous statements, and ask THEM...

Any chance the network can throw a few dollars (and some air time) to the Big East's two I-AA football teams? Getting these teams on a network a few times a year might help with boosting their revenue base as well.

(08-24-2010 08:58 AM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Any chance the network can throw a few dollars (and some air time) to the Big East's two I-AA football teams? Getting these teams on a network a few times a year might help with boosting their revenue base as well.

I suppose it would be up to the Patriot League when it comes to air time. Regarding kicking in extra money to Villanova and GT to make the jump to FBS status, I would say no if it was up to me. If you truly want to take the next step, then GT and Villanova should do it on their own dime.

I don't see why Georgetown or Villanova couldn't play a game or 2 on The BEast Network each year. All they'd need to do is schedule a game or 2 each year with one of the current BEast football schools. They'd could get a share of the proceeds from those games, which would be televised on the network. But as far as televising Patriot League conference games, forget that one...

(08-24-2010 08:42 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  I am not questioning the 80 mil. But that doesnt get 15 mil per fb team. Unless of course the BB schools get 0, and the new all sport members also get 0. 80 mil divided by 5 gets you 16. So congrats to the old BE schools, sorry newbies.

The difference would have to come from ABC/ESPN and CBS doubling the amount of money from the current TV contract while also receiving less content (assuming a BE network is created) since I am assuming that the other revenue outside of TV won't climb that much (ie bowl games and ncaa tourney credits) compared to TV.

Anyway, that would put the total value of TV rights in the area of $130 million ($50 million from ABC/ESPN/CBS) and $80 million from the TV network.

Keep in mind that the ACC is getting about $150-$160 million (IIRC) for their TV rights.

(08-24-2010 09:40 AM)Hoquista Wrote:  The difference would have to come from ABC/ESPN and CBS doubling the amount of money from the current TV contract while also receiving less content ..

.. and that sounds like wishful thinking.

Certainly, with the success the Big 10 has had with its network, it behooves us to be *seriously* looking in to the BE Network concept as an alternative to our current television arrangements (which frankly suck). But, we need to look before we leap ...

With the coverage we've gotten since the ACC raid, I'd say a BEast network is an imperative. The national bias is against The BEast. ESPN is one of the main proponents of this bias, in the face of all evidence to the contrary. Coverage like that we don't need. We need to hire our own reporters, who are actually interested in the product we put on the field, and can speak about it knowledgeably and professionally. If we depend on ESPN, all we'll hear is how we are the worst BCS conference, no matter what the actual statistics say, and how vulnerable we are as expansion candidates for richer and 'more deserving' conferences...

(08-23-2010 11:01 PM)Orange Eagles Wrote:  15+ Mil for each football school

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/101349094.html

Quote from article...

"Nelson pointed out that we're talking about revenue here, not profit. But given where college sports is headed, it's not out of the realm of possibility that the Big East Network is likely to happen in a few years."

"We think Big East schools that play football and basketball can generate around $15.2 million a year in revenue, while the schools that only play basketball can generate around $7.5 million in revenue," Nelson said.

He indicated that the schools could GENERATE $15.2 million each in REVENUE...not that they would GET $15.2 million in PROFIT. To us business types, that is a BIG difference. But its a smart move for the Big East...it would be a very nice card to hold when negotiations begin with ESPN/Fox/CBS et al in a few years.

Great find. Hmmm, split the revenue more to the football schools and less to the bb schools. Sounds a bit familiar to me-but that would never work. Also please notice ONLY Big East schools are involved....

Football schools would get the football revenue, and wouldn't have to share it with the basketball schools, since they had no part in generating that income. They would share the basketball revenue they helped generate. But if they want any football revenue, they need to step up and earn it...

Makes perfect sense to me, buck...

(08-24-2010 11:17 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Football schools would get the football revenue, and wouldn't have to share it with the basketball schools, since they had no part in generating that income.

Yes, no sense in giving non-football schools a free ride.

If they want to share in the football revenue, there is a simple solution. Upgrade the football program to FBS status, and help generate the income. If they aren't willing to generate any income in that arena, why should we give them any of it? Do you give away a portion of your pay check every payday? And I'm not talking about taxes, in case you were planning on being obtuse...