UPDATE ON STADIUM CONSTRUCTION

Green Gang: A Bird's Eye View
Courtesy: University of North Texas
Release: 07/20/2010

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By Steven Bartolotta, July 20, 2010, 10:19 a.m.

If you have ever wanted to a get a sneak peek at what it might look like to sit in a club level seat here's your chance. Our latest round of pictures take us to the newest portion of the stadium that is being constructed, which is the lower level of the press box, suite level, and club level seats.

Some of these pictures are a few days old, which is a good thing because you get a good view of what the new pond will look like full, as it is here.

The time-lapse camera has shown the rakers nearing the finish line on the west side, while the field has been filled in with a product that will allow workers to stage equipment and materials for the east side of stadium.

On the east side the first columns are starting are going up. These columns will set the stage for rakers on the east side of the stadium as well.

In coming weeks watch for more progress on the west side tower. The club level will continue to work to the south end of the stadium.

(07-20-2010 11:57 AM)MG61 Wrote:  UPDATE ON STADIUM CONSTRUCTION

Green Gang: A Bird's Eye View
Courtesy: University of North Texas
Release: 07/20/2010

PHOTO Album http://www.meangreensports.com/PhotoAlbu...BID=378838

Courtesy: University of North Texas
http://www.meangreensports.com/

By Steven Bartolotta, July 20, 2010, 10:19 a.m.

If you have ever wanted to a get a sneak peek at what it might look like to sit in a club level seat here's your chance. Our latest round of pictures take us to the newest portion of the stadium that is being constructed, which is the lower level of the press box, suite level, and club level seats.

Some of these pictures are a few days old, which is a good thing because you get a good view of what the new pond will look like full, as it is here.

The time-lapse camera has shown the rakers nearing the finish line on the west side, while the field has been filled in with a product that will allow workers to stage equipment and materials for the east side of stadium.

On the east side the first columns are starting are going up. These columns will set the stage for rakers on the east side of the stadium as well.

In coming weeks watch for more progress on the west side tower. The club level will continue to work to the south end of the stadium.

I think that pretty much says it all. You folks in CUSA best recognize that UNT is 100% committed to being a player. We will add value to your conference. This isn't the same ole North Texas State. This is The University of North Texas. We can help you people as well as you can help us. It's a win/win situation for all of us and in this economy we all will need all the help we can get.

SMU will still blackball you.

I like North Texas, mainly those two brunette's on the right though

Yup, still don't care about this team

(07-20-2010 08:02 AM)Eagle Man Wrote:  

(07-20-2010 07:45 AM)canewton Wrote:  Yeah, and Tulane improved in attendance last year too.

Great! But what is the real potential for Tulane? They don't even have an on campus stadium. Neither does Rice, UAB and Memphis. Memphis gets a waiver because at least their attendance is respectable. CUSA needs to look to the future. Again, ECU, UCF, Memphis and UTEP and possilbly Southern Miss are the members who are holding CUSA up right now.

SMU and Houston have the potential to become major players because of location. So does UNT.

The landscape in college football is changing rapidly.

Success of every school will depend on their ablilty to finance their own way and that will be directly related to the revenue generated by fans in the stands.

Tulane probably averaged 8-10 thousand per game max. I don't believe that 18K figure for a moment.

To our fans posting about us passing by Houston....come on, please, these CUSA posters think low enough of us already.

Common sense says Houston is a lot better of an athletics programs than ours. Maybe that will change in the future but passing by? 5-31 in the last three seasons. Houston was 10-4, double our win total in one year versus three. They're going to humiliate us next season I don't see the home opener being very close.

The following information made me sad just to read it because I see us as a potential CUSA target hopefully, but just take a look at this.

UNT vs. CUSA teams this decade.

2001
TCU- L 5-19

2002
@ TCU- L 10-16
Cincinatti W 24-19

2003
Memphis-L 17-27

2004
USM- L 10-31

2005
Tulsa- L 54-2

2006
SMU- W 24-6
@ Tulsa- L 3-28

2007
@ SMU- L 31-45

2008
Tulsa- L 26-56
@ Rice- L 20-77

2009
None

2-9 this decade I don't even want to average those scores. Man why am I doing this, it's just more fodder for anti-UNT sentiment. I sure hope we can turn the corner this season. I feel like crying after going over those scores my god, somebody hold me.

I may be down on our team but seriously, Houston would shred us to pieces, but like one Houston poster said, hell yeah, we would kill you in a jazz-off between bands. WHOO suck on that

And in 2008 Rice played nice on UNT. They could have put up an even higher total if they wanted.

(07-20-2010 10:12 PM)ntmeangreen11 Wrote:  To our fans posting about us passing by Houston....come on, please, these CUSA posters think low enough of us already.

Common sense says Houston is a lot better of an athletics programs than ours. Maybe that will change in the future but passing by? 5-31 in the last three seasons. Houston was 10-4, double our win total in one year versus three. They're going to humiliate us next season I don't see the home opener being very close.

The following information made me sad just to read it because I see us as a potential CUSA target hopefully, but just take a look at this.

UNT vs. CUSA teams this decade.

2001
TCU- L 5-19

2002
@ TCU- L 10-16
Cincinatti W 24-19

2003
Memphis-L 17-27

2004
USM- L 10-31

2005
Tulsa- L 54-2

2006
SMU- W 24-6
@ Tulsa- L 3-28

2007
@ SMU- L 31-45

2008
Tulsa- L 26-56
@ Rice- L 20-77

2009
None

2-9 this decade I don't even want to average those scores. Man why am I doing this, it's just more fodder for anti-UNT sentiment. I sure hope we can turn the corner this season. I feel like crying after going over those scores my god, somebody hold me.

I may be down on our team but seriously, Houston would shred us to pieces, but like one Houston poster said, hell yeah, we would kill you in a jazz-off between bands. WHOO suck on that

Traitor. Still wearing that UT Whorn ballcap?

(07-21-2010 10:58 AM)Green Menace Wrote:  

(07-20-2010 10:12 PM)ntmeangreen11 Wrote:  To our fans posting about us passing by Houston....come on, please, these CUSA posters think low enough of us already.

Common sense says Houston is a lot better of an athletics programs than ours. Maybe that will change in the future but passing by? 5-31 in the last three seasons. Houston was 10-4, double our win total in one year versus three. They're going to humiliate us next season I don't see the home opener being very close.

The following information made me sad just to read it because I see us as a potential CUSA target hopefully, but just take a look at this.

UNT vs. CUSA teams this decade.

2001
TCU- L 5-19

2002
@ TCU- L 10-16
Cincinatti W 24-19

2003
Memphis-L 17-27

2004
USM- L 10-31

2005
Tulsa- L 54-2

2006
SMU- W 24-6
@ Tulsa- L 3-28

2007
@ SMU- L 31-45

2008
Tulsa- L 26-56
@ Rice- L 20-77

2009
None

2-9 this decade I don't even want to average those scores. Man why am I doing this, it's just more fodder for anti-UNT sentiment. I sure hope we can turn the corner this season. I feel like crying after going over those scores my god, somebody hold me.

I may be down on our team but seriously, Houston would shred us to pieces, but like one Houston poster said, hell yeah, we would kill you in a jazz-off between bands. WHOO suck on that

Traitor. Still wearing that UT Whorn ballcap?

Reality sucks. At least one of you can see it.

(07-20-2010 11:32 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(07-20-2010 11:24 AM)PGPirate Wrote:  Mods can we please send this thread to the D-1aa or SBC or whatever conferences these people are from?

+1.

In regards to the last UNT post - I'm not sure (in regards to any quantitative measure) how UNT could be mistaken as "up and coming". Boise, TCU, Houston, SMU, ECU, UCF, etc. are up and coming, not UNT.

But best of luck to you. If there is an announcement of a UNT v. UH series, we'll be there. We usually bring ~3-5k to SMU.

Well, back when the last C-USA realignment took place, North Texas was looked at seriously for membership. The program has made dramatic improvements in multiple areas since then, so I would imagine we would be strongly considered should the league be seeking a new member. Apparently some of the decision makers realized UNT's potential as a program on the rise.

I see North Texas being a UCF clone program the upcoming 10 years.

On the rise with a large enrollment and lots of money (my cousin goes there and is in the color guard).

North Texas is a solid school.

But for the smack being thrown...all I can say when I watched North Texas play Rice in 2008...

Is that you're still quite a way from being a "CUSA type team."

http://blogs.chron.com/owls/2008/09/rice...er_li.html

I'm not a fan of Dodge. I'm sure none of you are either. But North Texas vs Rice game was nowhere competitive and I saw him basically get outcoached MASSIVELY.

Maybe Dodge will be gone by 2011. Because right now UNT is ranked dead last out of all D1 schools (120th). Which is not saying much for the coach.


But UNT is a "sleeper" type program in Texas that will undoubtably grow. I look forward to that game. You'll break in our brand new QB Terrance Broadway.

(07-22-2010 11:32 AM)PerryGreen Wrote:  Well, back when the last C-USA realignment took place, North Texas was looked at seriously for membership. The program has made dramatic improvements in multiple areas since then, so I would imagine we would be strongly considered should the league be seeking a new member. Apparently some of the decision makers realized UNT's potential as a program on the rise.

But there's one major area that UNT hasn't made a big improvement since that time: on the field football. During the last CUSA re-alignment, UNT was in the middle of a run of multiple conference championships. The best teams in other conferences have to be considered, regardless of conference. Unfortunately, being in one of the worst teams in a lowly regarded conference makes it difficult to be considered unless you bring something else big to the table that no one else brings.

I'd love to see UNT succeed. I live just east of Denton and keep track of UNT athletics, more than many UNT alums I know (UH has plenty of those types also). I just don't think CUSA is the place for UNT to do it at this time.

(07-22-2010 01:01 PM)ShockerBob Wrote:  You'll break in our brand new QB Terrance Broadway.

Kohlhausen is coming in nearly as highly touted. Rivals currently has him as the 14th best pro-style QB in the country.

The QB battle is going to be insane next year. I can see any of 3 or 4 guys taking the job. Broadway, Kohlhausen, Piland, and don't forget Aaron Johnson. Check out the first play from scrimmage against Denton Guyer in 2008. That's 55 yards in the air, across his body. A little bit of Wildcat (Wildcoog?) with Darian Lazard could be in order, as well.

(07-20-2010 11:24 AM)PGPirate Wrote:  Mods can we please send this thread to the D-1aa or SBC or whatever conferences these people are from?

It is quite funny when CUSA people talk down to other conferences when their champion plays the 8th or 9th best SEC team in a bowl game and loses....

(07-22-2010 01:33 PM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(07-22-2010 11:32 AM)PerryGreen Wrote:  Well, back when the last C-USA realignment took place, North Texas was looked at seriously for membership. The program has made dramatic improvements in multiple areas since then, so I would imagine we would be strongly considered should the league be seeking a new member. Apparently some of the decision makers realized UNT's potential as a program on the rise.

But there's one major area that UNT hasn't made a big improvement since that time: on the field football. During the last CUSA re-alignment, UNT was in the middle of a run of multiple conference championships. The best teams in other conferences have to be considered, regardless of conference. Unfortunately, being in one of the worst teams in a lowly regarded conference makes it difficult to be considered unless you bring something else big to the table that no one else brings.

I'd love to see UNT succeed. I live just east of Denton and keep track of UNT athletics, more than many UNT alums I know (UH has plenty of those types also). I just don't think CUSA is the place for UNT to do it at this time.

Fair enough. It's not a real trade off, but our men's basketball team was towards the bottom of Division I at that time and has since gone to 2 NCAA tourney's.

Despite the terrible on field football performance, attendance has grown each year. As mentioned before, last year's team played in front of home crowds over 20,000 three times. Considering the lack of name recognition of the opponents, I'd list that as one of the signs of a growing fan base with tons of potential. What happens when North Texas has another 8 or 9 win season? What happens if the home game programs read "Houston," "SMU," "Southern Miss," "Tulsa," as opposed to "Florida Atlantic," "Louisiana-Lafayette," "Western Kentucky," and "Troy?"

I'm telling you, the experts and the people in charge of these types of situations realize what North Texas brings to the table.

(07-22-2010 01:33 PM)NTXCoog Wrote:  

(07-22-2010 11:32 AM)PerryGreen Wrote:  Well, back when the last C-USA realignment took place, North Texas was looked at seriously for membership. The program has made dramatic improvements in multiple areas since then, so I would imagine we would be strongly considered should the league be seeking a new member. Apparently some of the decision makers realized UNT's potential as a program on the rise.

But there's one major area that UNT hasn't made a big improvement since that time: on the field football. During the last CUSA re-alignment, UNT was in the middle of a run of multiple conference championships. The best teams in other conferences have to be considered, regardless of conference. Unfortunately, being in one of the worst teams in a lowly regarded conference makes it difficult to be considered unless you bring something else big to the table that no one else brings.

I'd love to see UNT succeed. I live just east of Denton and keep track of UNT athletics, more than many UNT alums I know (UH has plenty of those types also). I just don't think CUSA is the place for UNT to do it at this time.

Slow down a minute. Yes, six years ago your Commissioner campaigned for UNT being admitted to CUSA and that was before UNT spent $100,000,000 on improvements to it's athletic facilities. He knew back then what most of you still don't recognize today.

If UNT isn't right, then neither is Tulane or UAB. Neither offer anything to the conference, neither one has potential to elevate the conference in prestige and neither one of them even has an "on campus" stadium. UNT is building a LEED Certified, one of only two college stadiums in the USA to make that claim, and it is a concrete structure, not aluminum, and YES, it's on our own campus. Go out to http://www.meangreensports and check out the construction camera and see the progress for yourselves.

No, what has happenen to most of you, except maybe Tallgrass, is that the congregation in Highland Park, Texas has done such on number on your head after they were admitted to the conference that you all totally and completely threw common sense and logic out the window. And it is all seeded in their fear of what UNT might become and they cleverly sold that fear to you folks and some of your schools administrators.

We will succeed and we will pass "many" of you by whether or not we ever become a member of CUSA.

And please, lets stop all this talk about performance on the field. Six years ago it was, "well UNT doesn't have the facilities" even though some of your members never have! And now that we will, it's, "oh your team isn't any good." Ya'll are scared just like SMU! And rightly so.

If you're not scared, prove it! Beat us on the playing field year in and year out.

(07-17-2010 08:34 PM)Observer Wrote:  

(07-17-2010 06:19 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  

(07-17-2010 06:13 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(07-17-2010 06:07 PM)Observer Wrote:  If you schedule teams like La Tech and UNT you will have a chance to go 13 - 0, and go to a major bowl. If you schedule the LSU's of the world you will not go 13 - 0, and will have no chance of a BCS bowl.

If we went 13-0 with an OOC schedule like the one in my previous post, the BCS would laugh in our face.

You have the possibility of going to a major bowl and getting your a/ss whipped. See Hawaii.

Firstly, a BCS bowl berth is the next step in the process. And I think if you were to check the schedules of Boise State and Utah, you will find that they were not overloaded with top heavy competition. Win, and win consistently, and you get recognized. Lose and you get stigmatized.

No. The next step is a couple of CUSA titles and Liberty Bowl wins. Lets not get ahead of ourselves here.

(07-22-2010 02:06 PM)glick Wrote:  

(07-20-2010 11:24 AM)PGPirate Wrote:  Mods can we please send this thread to the D-1aa or SBC or whatever conferences these people are from?

It is quite funny when CUSA people talk down to other conferences when their champion plays the 8th or 9th best SEC team in a bowl game and loses....

Exactly. No one in CUSA is better than anyone else. I think North Texas would be a good addition to CUSA or to any conference that may be created in the future by schools in this region. Louisiana Tech as well. Quit hating. That new stadium looks awesome and it's only going to help their program.

(07-22-2010 03:56 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  

(07-17-2010 08:34 PM)Observer Wrote:  

(07-17-2010 06:19 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  

(07-17-2010 06:13 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(07-17-2010 06:07 PM)Observer Wrote:  If you schedule teams like La Tech and UNT you will have a chance to go 13 - 0, and go to a major bowl. If you schedule the LSU's of the world you will not go 13 - 0, and will have no chance of a BCS bowl.

If we went 13-0 with an OOC schedule like the one in my previous post, the BCS would laugh in our face.

You have the possibility of going to a major bowl and getting your a/ss whipped. See Hawaii.

Firstly, a BCS bowl berth is the next step in the process. And I think if you were to check the schedules of Boise State and Utah, you will find that they were not overloaded with top heavy competition. Win, and win consistently, and you get recognized. Lose and you get stigmatized.

No. The next step is a couple of CUSA titles and Liberty Bowl wins. Lets not get ahead of ourselves here.

I see you missed the point. But that's OK.