(03-05-2010 08:12 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote:
(03-05-2010 01:48 AM)Dak10 Wrote:
(03-04-2010 11:53 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:
(03-04-2010 11:01 PM)Dak10 Wrote:
(03-04-2010 10:35 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote: OJ's Team record 32-30
Love's Team record 14-48
I can't stand this argument. Are you saying that if we had kept Love the records would have been reversed?
Well lets see we probably would not have signed Zach if we had Love. Love isnt going to take over and win a game like Zach can. So in reality you take O.J. and Zach off this team yeah we would be right around the 14 win mark if not worse.
...and instead of Thabeet we draft Evans making the record even better.
....and instead of Kobe and LeBron James........
I'm really getting tired of all these bull**** comments.
I'm pretty sure they started about three posts above mine. Glad you're playing along with Kobe and Lebron though.
(03-05-2010 08:12 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote:
(03-05-2010 01:48 AM)Dak10 Wrote:
(03-04-2010 11:53 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:
(03-04-2010 11:01 PM)Dak10 Wrote:
(03-04-2010 10:35 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote: OJ's Team record 32-30
Love's Team record 14-48
I can't stand this argument. Are you saying that if we had kept Love the records would have been reversed?
Well lets see we probably would not have signed Zach if we had Love. Love isnt going to take over and win a game like Zach can. So in reality you take O.J. and Zach off this team yeah we would be right around the 14 win mark if not worse.
...and instead of Thabeet we draft Evans making the record even better.
....and instead of Kobe and LeBron James........
I'm really getting tired of all these bull**** comments.
I'm pretty sure they started about three posts above mine. Glad you're playing along with Kobe and Lebron though.
No, your comments are the bull**** comments. Constantly bitching about who is not on the roster is boring and has been for a long time.
I would hope you would support who we are, not who we are not.
Oj just needs to get the ball more. When he is placed in the corner while Conley is pounding the ball he cant do anything. When they move the ball like they did in the 4th qtr they are effective.
(03-05-2010 11:07 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote:
(03-05-2010 09:16 AM)Dak10 Wrote:
(03-05-2010 08:12 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote:
(03-05-2010 01:48 AM)Dak10 Wrote:
(03-04-2010 11:53 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:
(03-04-2010 11:01 PM)Dak10 Wrote:
(03-04-2010 10:35 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote: OJ's Team record 32-30
Love's Team record 14-48
I can't stand this argument. Are you saying that if we had kept Love the records would have been reversed?
Well lets see we probably would not have signed Zach if we had Love. Love isnt going to take over and win a game like Zach can. So in reality you take O.J. and Zach off this team yeah we would be right around the 14 win mark if not worse.
...and instead of Thabeet we draft Evans making the record even better.
....and instead of Kobe and LeBron James........
I'm really getting tired of all these bull**** comments.
I'm pretty sure they started about three posts above mine. Glad you're playing along with Kobe and Lebron though.
No, your comments are the bull**** comments. Constantly bitching about who is not on the roster is boring and has been for a long time.
I would hope you would support who we are, not who we are not.
Try not to be such a PAB Greg. Our pick is tearing up the D-League in the great state of North Dakota while most rookies are providing help to their team. Many are starting. Fans have a right to be upset when the wrong choice is made.
(03-05-2010 11:22 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote: Oj just needs to get the ball more. When he is placed in the corner while Conley is pounding the ball he cant do anything. When they move the ball like they did in the 4th qtr they are effective.
Thank you!
How in the **** OJ doesn't have the ball more is beyond me. The Griz just need to throw him in the fire and let him play PG. When he has to guard the big SG's it seems to take a toll on him offensively. Hopefully when Brewer returns they will experiment with OJ running the point.
I will say Conley actually played decent again last night though. I just don't see him as the answer. It is obvious that he is the weak link in the starting lineup. Portland has continued to post him up and score at will on him. He just isn't big enough to guard the bigger pg's. It's time to move OJ to point and let him learn how to run it. I know I would feel more comfortable at the end of games with OJ having the ball in his hands.
(03-05-2010 11:07 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote:
(03-05-2010 09:16 AM)Dak10 Wrote:
(03-05-2010 08:12 AM)the other Greg Childers Wrote:
(03-05-2010 01:48 AM)Dak10 Wrote:
(03-04-2010 11:53 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:
(03-04-2010 11:01 PM)Dak10 Wrote:
(03-04-2010 10:35 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote: OJ's Team record 32-30
Love's Team record 14-48
I can't stand this argument. Are you saying that if we had kept Love the records would have been reversed?
Well lets see we probably would not have signed Zach if we had Love. Love isnt going to take over and win a game like Zach can. So in reality you take O.J. and Zach off this team yeah we would be right around the 14 win mark if not worse.
...and instead of Thabeet we draft Evans making the record even better.
....and instead of Kobe and LeBron James........
I'm really getting tired of all these bull**** comments.
I'm pretty sure they started about three posts above mine. Glad you're playing along with Kobe and Lebron though.
No, your comments are the bull**** comments. Constantly bitching about who is not on the roster is boring and has been for a long time.
I would hope you would support who we are, not who we are not.
Try not to be such a PAB Greg. Our pick is tearing up the D-League in the great state of North Dakota while most rookies are providing help to their team. Many are starting. Fans have a right to be upset when the wrong choice is made.
Yeah, but you're not a fan. You're some fool who doesn't know jack about basketball.
(03-05-2010 11:53 AM)Dak10 Wrote: Says the guy that thinks Tyreke would've come off the bench and isn't a PG. Also the guy that thinks Thabeet was a good pick.
Get over yourself pal. You aren't always right and in this case you aren't even in hand grenade range.
Tyreke would've come off the bench behind Conley and Mayo. His stats are gaudy playing for a 21-40 team where he can jack up as many shots as he wants because his teammates suck. He wouldn't have that luxury with five guys on the Grizzlies already averaging double figures.
And he's not a point guard. Never will be, regardless of where they have him on the court. You could put Marc Gasol at the one, but it wouldn't make him a point guard.
His ballhandling is average-to-mediocre, and his outside shooting is atrocious. If he were three inches taller, he could be the prototypical small forward but right now he's a 6'6" guard who gets the majority of his points posting up smaller players or driving to the hoop.
Thabeet was a good pick. The problem isn't him. It's Hollins. Hollins doesn't like any of his bench players and refuses to use any of them unless he absolutely has to.
(03-05-2010 12:06 PM)the other Greg Childers Wrote:
(03-05-2010 11:53 AM)Dak10 Wrote: Says the guy that thinks Tyreke would've come off the bench and isn't a PG. Also the guy that thinks Thabeet was a good pick.
Get over yourself pal. You aren't always right and in this case you aren't even in hand grenade range.
Tyreke would've come off the bench behind Conley and Mayo. His stats are gaudy playing for a 21-40 team where he can jack up as many shots as he wants because his teammates suck. He wouldn't have that luxury with five guys on the Grizzlies already averaging double figures.
And he's not a point guard. Never will be, regardless of where they have him on the court. You could put Marc Gasol at the one, but it wouldn't make him a point guard.
His ballhandling is average-to-mediocre, and his outside shooting is atrocious. If he were three inches taller, he could be the prototypical small forward but right now he's a 6'6" guard who gets the majority of his points posting up smaller players or driving to the hoop.
Thabeet was a good pick. The problem isn't him. It's Hollins. Hollins doesn't like any of his bench players and refuses to use any of them unless he absolutely has to.
If that's your honest opinion then you're a fool that doesn't know jack about basketball.
Im not taking sides, but...Thabeet was a horrible pick. ANYONE who supports that pick "doesn't know jack about basketball." Saying Tyreke can't handle the ball and wouldnt start over Conley also makes TOGC look foolish. Tyreke is a future star and our #2 BUST is being wavy like gravy in freakin' Dakota!
As far as the Oj vs Love argument, both are solid players, both will have good careers and both COULD one day be all-stars. HOWEVER both are very young and have holes in their games. With the team the Griz have now, I think everyone would agree that OJ fits better with Zach, and if we had kept Love and missed out on Z-Bo, I dont think we are in the PLAYOFF PICTURE at all.
ALSO, as a side note- can we please lay off Conley, he is not really all that bad. Yes, there are some better PG's in the league and he has some improving to do, but he's still very young and has a good work ethic. Just give him some time.
(This post was last modified: 03-05-2010 05:10 PM by TigerDJ.)
(03-05-2010 12:06 PM)the other Greg Childers Wrote: Tyreke would've come off the bench behind Conley and Mayo. His stats are gaudy playing for a 21-40 team where he can jack up as many shots as he wants because his teammates suck. He wouldn't have that luxury with five guys on the Grizzlies already averaging double figures.
And he's not a point guard. Never will be, regardless of where they have him on the court. You could put Marc Gasol at the one, but it wouldn't make him a point guard.
His ballhandling is average-to-mediocre, and his outside shooting is atrocious. If he were three inches taller, he could be the prototypical small forward but right now he's a 6'6" guard who gets the majority of his points posting up smaller players or driving to the hoop.
Thabeet was a good pick. The problem isn't him. It's Hollins. Hollins doesn't like any of his bench players and refuses to use any of them unless he absolutely has to.
If that's your honest opinion then you're a fool that doesn't know jack about basketball.
Get over yourself pal. You aren't always right and in this case you aren't even in hand grenade range.
(03-05-2010 11:22 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote: Oj just needs to get the ball more. When he is placed in the corner while Conley is pounding the ball he cant do anything. When they move the ball like they did in the 4th qtr they are effective.
Thank you!
How in the **** OJ doesn't have the ball more is beyond me. The Griz just need to throw him in the fire and let him play PG. When he has to guard the big SG's it seems to take a toll on him offensively. Hopefully when Brewer returns they will experiment with OJ running the point.
I will say Conley actually played decent again last night though. I just don't see him as the answer. It is obvious that he is the weak link in the starting lineup. Portland has continued to post him up and score at will on him. He just isn't big enough to guard the bigger pg's. It's time to move OJ to point and let him learn how to run it. I know I would feel more comfortable at the end of games with OJ having the ball in his hands.
I think Memphis Grizzlies guard OJ Mayo is a killer in the last couple of minutes, but I would rather throw in the post and let either Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol do their thing in the last couple of minutes to create the offense. Throwing the ball Inside-out is the best way to run any offense in the college or professional basketball IMHO. Early in the possesion throw the ball to them and if either of those players gets a double team, then you kick it out to Mayo for an open outside shot. That is how I would do it.
(This post was last modified: 03-06-2010 07:44 PM by BARTLETTTIGER.)
(03-05-2010 11:22 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote: Oj just needs to get the ball more. When he is placed in the corner while Conley is pounding the ball he cant do anything. When they move the ball like they did in the 4th qtr they are effective.
Thank you!
How in the **** OJ doesn't have the ball more is beyond me. The Griz just need to throw him in the fire and let him play PG. When he has to guard the big SG's it seems to take a toll on him offensively. Hopefully when Brewer returns they will experiment with OJ running the point.
I will say Conley actually played decent again last night though. I just don't see him as the answer. It is obvious that he is the weak link in the starting lineup. Portland has continued to post him up and score at will on him. He just isn't big enough to guard the bigger pg's. It's time to move OJ to point and let him learn how to run it. I know I would feel more comfortable at the end of games with OJ having the ball in his hands.
I think Memphis Grizzlies guard OJ Mayo is a killer in the last couple of minutes, but I would rather throw in the post and let either Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol do their thing in the last couple of minutes to create the offense. Throwing the ball Inside-out is the best way to run any offense in the college or professional basketball IMHO. Early in the possesion throw the ball to them and if the play gets a double team, kick it out to Mayo for an open outside shot. That is how I would do it.
I agree with that. I just think it should be OJ running the point and feeding the ball to Randolph/Gasol. If OJ's man helps on D he can make them pay. Now they just need a big 2 guard that can play D and hit the spot up 3.
Tyreke really isn't a natural PG. He's more suited to play the SG or SF positions. Much like his time at Memphis, he doesn't have a quality PG so he's forced to play that position. If you look at guys that we could've had, Tyreke is the most talented overall, but Curry is probably the best fit for this team.
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