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(12-03-2009 04:55 PM)huskiehog64 Wrote:  Why wouldnt Temple want DC, it would almost be a home game for them.
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NIU vs ND in Detoilet would vindicate what I suggested in other posts about the value of personal connections when making business decisions.

When movers and shaklers look for win -win situations and bowl committees look for attendance and matchups, I would think CMU is looking for a new destination other than Det-riots. Playing in same stadium as MACC game seems kinda lame for a bowl game.

I would think ND would look for a matchup they could likely win - as in NIU.

It's beginning to make some sense.
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The talk on the MAC board is that ND would say yes to a match-up with Temple in the GMAC bowl. I guess they are trying to play the MAC team with the greatest national name recognition.
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(12-03-2009 05:32 PM)cyberdawg Wrote:  NIU vs ND in Detoilet would vindicate what I suggested in other posts about the value of personal connections when making business decisions.

When movers and shaklers look for win -win situations and bowl committees look for attendance and matchups, I would think CMU is looking for a new destination other than Det-riots. Playing in same stadium as MACC game seems kinda lame for a bowl game.

I would think ND would look for a matchup they could likely win - as in NIU.

It's beginning to make some sense.
It wouldn't vindicate you at all, you have no proof at all that Jim Phillips had anything to do with that. Correlation does not equal causation.
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(12-03-2009 11:45 AM)gcd Wrote:  71 bowl eligible teams with 68 slots

This post just sums up to me why people do not care about any of the bowl games, 71 teams 68 slots..wow. I mean that is just plain silly. That is like allowing 30 out of the 32 teams professional teams to make the playoffs. Each year the significance of bowls is diminished. To be quite honest, I would not care either way if NIU goes bowling. I mean I'll watch if they play, but it is not something I'm eagerly waiting an announcement for. Bowl games just do not have the same meaning anymore.
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(12-03-2009 07:37 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 11:45 AM)gcd Wrote:  71 bowl eligible teams with 68 slots

This post just sums up to me why people do not care about any of the bowl games, 71 teams 68 slots..wow. I mean that is just plain silly. That is like allowing 30 out of the 32 teams professional teams to make the playoffs. Each year the significance of bowls is diminished. To be quite honest, I would not care either way if NIU goes bowling. I mean I'll watch if they play, but it is not something I'm eagerly waiting an announcement for. Bowl games just do not have the same meaning anymore.
While landing a Bowl game is much easier than before, I still prefer it this way to be able to see the Huskies play a game around the holidays. Even the small Bowls are exciting to watch for me. Bowls still legitimize the program to some extent.
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(12-03-2009 08:00 PM)ChicagoHuskie Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 07:37 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 11:45 AM)gcd Wrote:  71 bowl eligible teams with 68 slots

This post just sums up to me why people do not care about any of the bowl games, 71 teams 68 slots..wow. I mean that is just plain silly. That is like allowing 30 out of the 32 teams professional teams to make the playoffs. Each year the significance of bowls is diminished. To be quite honest, I would not care either way if NIU goes bowling. I mean I'll watch if they play, but it is not something I'm eagerly waiting an announcement for. Bowl games just do not have the same meaning anymore.
While landing a Bowl game is much easier than before, I still prefer it this way to be able to see the Huskies play a game around the holidays. Even the small Bowls are exciting to watch for me. Bowls still legitimize the program to some extent.

I agree it is nice to have a game around the holiday times to see your team play once more, but that is all it has become just something to burn some time if your team is on TV, I certainly would not be motivated to pay big money to go to one. I disagree it legitimizes your program, bowls are selected not based on performance, so how could that legitimize your program. Case in point, some of the higher profile bowl games Big 10 teams will be involved in, that conference is absolutely dreadful this year and any bowls those teams played in were achieved through strict inheritance, and not on quality of teams. Therein lies the problem why noone cares about bowls.
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(12-03-2009 08:05 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 08:00 PM)ChicagoHuskie Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 07:37 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 11:45 AM)gcd Wrote:  71 bowl eligible teams with 68 slots

This post just sums up to me why people do not care about any of the bowl games, 71 teams 68 slots..wow. I mean that is just plain silly. That is like allowing 30 out of the 32 teams professional teams to make the playoffs. Each year the significance of bowls is diminished. To be quite honest, I would not care either way if NIU goes bowling. I mean I'll watch if they play, but it is not something I'm eagerly waiting an announcement for. Bowl games just do not have the same meaning anymore.
While landing a Bowl game is much easier than before, I still prefer it this way to be able to see the Huskies play a game around the holidays. Even the small Bowls are exciting to watch for me. Bowls still legitimize the program to some extent.

I agree it is nice to have a game around the holiday times to see your team play once more, but that is all it has become just something to burn some time if your team is on TV, I certainly would not be motivated to pay big money to go to one. I disagree it legitimizes your program, bowls are selected not based on performance, so how could that legitimize your program. Case in point, some of the higher profile bowl games Big 10 teams will be involved in, that conference is absolutely dreadful this year and any bowls those teams played in were achieved through strict inheritance, and not on quality of teams. Therein lies the problem why noone cares about bowls.
To the layman and peripheral sports fan a Bowl game does legitimize your team IMO. The sound bite to fellow employees at work that NIU is in a Bowl game does reasonate.
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RE: Bowl Odds
(12-03-2009 08:09 PM)ChicagoHuskie Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 08:05 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 08:00 PM)ChicagoHuskie Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 07:37 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 11:45 AM)gcd Wrote:  71 bowl eligible teams with 68 slots

This post just sums up to me why people do not care about any of the bowl games, 71 teams 68 slots..wow. I mean that is just plain silly. That is like allowing 30 out of the 32 teams professional teams to make the playoffs. Each year the significance of bowls is diminished. To be quite honest, I would not care either way if NIU goes bowling. I mean I'll watch if they play, but it is not something I'm eagerly waiting an announcement for. Bowl games just do not have the same meaning anymore.
While landing a Bowl game is much easier than before, I still prefer it this way to be able to see the Huskies play a game around the holidays. Even the small Bowls are exciting to watch for me. Bowls still legitimize the program to some extent.

I agree it is nice to have a game around the holiday times to see your team play once more, but that is all it has become just something to burn some time if your team is on TV, I certainly would not be motivated to pay big money to go to one. I disagree it legitimizes your program, bowls are selected not based on performance, so how could that legitimize your program. Case in point, some of the higher profile bowl games Big 10 teams will be involved in, that conference is absolutely dreadful this year and any bowls those teams played in were achieved through strict inheritance, and not on quality of teams. Therein lies the problem why noone cares about bowls.
To the layman and peripheral sports fan a Bowl game does legitimize your team IMO. The sound bite to fellow employees at work that NIU is in a Bowl game does reasonate.

I think it used to, but now when there are potentially more invites than teams eligible, that is just is insane and proves the bowls have become insignificant.
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RE: Bowl Odds
(12-03-2009 08:00 PM)ChicagoHuskie Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 07:37 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 11:45 AM)gcd Wrote:  71 bowl eligible teams with 68 slots

This post just sums up to me why people do not care about any of the bowl games, 71 teams 68 slots..wow. I mean that is just plain silly. That is like allowing 30 out of the 32 teams professional teams to make the playoffs. Each year the significance of bowls is diminished. To be quite honest, I would not care either way if NIU goes bowling. I mean I'll watch if they play, but it is not something I'm eagerly waiting an announcement for. Bowl games just do not have the same meaning anymore.
While landing a Bowl game is much easier than before, I still prefer it this way to be able to see the Huskies play a game around the holidays. Even the small Bowls are exciting to watch for me. Bowls still legitimize the program to some extent.

especially if you're SMU and haven't seen your team play in the post-season in 25 years....quite frankly I don't know why people here are starting to complain about bowl games. Maybe the fact that we've been to three in the last 5 years has made some people spoiled. Lest we forget we weren't too far away from SMU's situation six years ago.
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(12-03-2009 08:14 PM)NIUHuskie4life Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 08:00 PM)ChicagoHuskie Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 07:37 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 11:45 AM)gcd Wrote:  71 bowl eligible teams with 68 slots

This post just sums up to me why people do not care about any of the bowl games, 71 teams 68 slots..wow. I mean that is just plain silly. That is like allowing 30 out of the 32 teams professional teams to make the playoffs. Each year the significance of bowls is diminished. To be quite honest, I would not care either way if NIU goes bowling. I mean I'll watch if they play, but it is not something I'm eagerly waiting an announcement for. Bowl games just do not have the same meaning anymore.
While landing a Bowl game is much easier than before, I still prefer it this way to be able to see the Huskies play a game around the holidays. Even the small Bowls are exciting to watch for me. Bowls still legitimize the program to some extent.

especially if you're SMU and haven't seen your team play in the post-season in 25 years....quite frankly I don't know why people here are starting to complain about bowl games. Maybe the fact that we've been to three in the last 5 years has made some people spoiled. Lest we forget we weren't too far away from SMU's situation six years ago.

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Obama can go on and on about how CFB needs a playoff, but he never went to a D-I school so he doesn't know how much it means to the fans of schools to attend one.
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(12-03-2009 08:09 PM)ChicagoHuskie Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 08:05 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 08:00 PM)ChicagoHuskie Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 07:37 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-03-2009 11:45 AM)gcd Wrote:  71 bowl eligible teams with 68 slots

This post just sums up to me why people do not care about any of the bowl games, 71 teams 68 slots..wow. I mean that is just plain silly. That is like allowing 30 out of the 32 teams professional teams to make the playoffs. Each year the significance of bowls is diminished. To be quite honest, I would not care either way if NIU goes bowling. I mean I'll watch if they play, but it is not something I'm eagerly waiting an announcement for. Bowl games just do not have the same meaning anymore.
While landing a Bowl game is much easier than before, I still prefer it this way to be able to see the Huskies play a game around the holidays. Even the small Bowls are exciting to watch for me. Bowls still legitimize the program to some extent.

I agree it is nice to have a game around the holiday times to see your team play once more, but that is all it has become just something to burn some time if your team is on TV, I certainly would not be motivated to pay big money to go to one. I disagree it legitimizes your program, bowls are selected not based on performance, so how could that legitimize your program. Case in point, some of the higher profile bowl games Big 10 teams will be involved in, that conference is absolutely dreadful this year and any bowls those teams played in were achieved through strict inheritance, and not on quality of teams. Therein lies the problem why noone cares about bowls.
To the layman and peripheral sports fan a Bowl game does legitimize your team IMO. The sound bite to fellow employees at work that NIU is in a Bowl game does reasonate.

I agree....i have made it a practice to make those teachers around me know exactly when NIU plays on national tv and when we are going to a bowl....it also helps that the two teachers closest to me are from Purdue and Michigan. (I hung 7's signature on a sign on the door of the Purdue guy..hehehehehehehehe)

Bowls do legitimize a program so some degree....even the Texas AM goofs bring up NIU during bowl season to me.
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NIU will get a bowl berth. But who really care. The NIU atheltic department is going to lose money on the deal and a sum total of 5,000 people worldwide will tune into the game on TV and radio.
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Will you be going to the game?
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I agree with all of the above except the dipshit NIJ as usual -- dude is a douche. NIU going to bowl games goes a lonnnnnnnggg way towards notariety and prestige.

The folks that discredit any bowl are not "true" fans of college football, no matter how many bowl games are created. A few of my coworkers laugh at the smaller bowls b/c they are f'in morons.

They think NIU is podunk b/c we are not one of the 20 or so college teams they can name off the top of their head. They do not know college football exists beyond the highlights they see on Sportcenter.

Most wannabees do not even understand the classification system of the different levels of college football. D-1a, AA, 2....huh? Morons.

Still they say they are "big fans" because they watched a few games.

Let's face it.... there are many posers out there and college football fans are the worst. All we can do is keep winning and keep going to bowls ... we have come a lonnnggg way in the 20 or so years I have been on the NIU bandwagon and we can/need to take it to the next level.

I want the Little Caesars Pizza Bowl...will be there if it happens.
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Yea I agree with the LC bowl, I think we would travel well there as well as bring the band because the team would take buses and a much shorter trip. Also, if for some reason we do play ND I would believe we would make a profit for once on a bowl game.
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Reguardless of whether you think we should go bowling or not.
The extra practices we get for the bowl are extremely helpful for our program, it gives our coaching staff alot of extra time to spend with our younger players and see what they have for next season. It helps alot with recruiting, I remember Coach Novak talking about that a couple years back.

Go Huskies!
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/...breakdown/

Quote: “Bowl games are like ice cream, you know?” former Northern Illinois coach Joe Novak once said. “They're always good."
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Where should all the Naysayers convene to bemoan Huskie football and Kill while the rest of us enjoy attending or watching the bowl game on TV?
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