AP POLL

Rank Team Record Pts Last Week
1. Florida (54) 4-0 1486 1
2. Texas (1) 4-0 1416 2
3. Alabama (5) 5-0 1404 3
4. LSU 5-0 1290 4
5. Virginia Tech 4-1 1200 6
6. Boise St. 5-0 1185 5
7. USC 4-1 1108 7
8. Cincinnati 5-0 1004 10
9. Ohio St. 4-1 994 9
10. TCU 4-0 940 11
11. Miami (FL) 3-1 931 17
12. Iowa 5-0 823 13
13. Oregon 4-1 676 16
14. Penn St. 4-1 564 15
15. Oklahoma St. 3-1 563 14
16. Kansas 4-0 513 18
17. Auburn 5-0 428 NR
18. BYU 4-1 403 20
19. Oklahoma 2-2 370 8
20. Mississippi 3-1 357 21
21. Nebraska 3-1 333 23
22. Georgia Tech 4-1 311 25
23. South Florida 5-0 238 NR
24. Missouri 4-0 215 NR
25. South Carolina 4-1 200 NR

Others Receiving Votes:
Wisconsin 157, Houston 142, Georgia 115, Stanford 50, Utah 31, Michigan 25, Boston Coll. 12, Notre Dame 9, Pittsburgh 3, West Virginia 2, Arizona 2

COACHES POLL

Rank Team Record Pts Last Week
1. Florida (57) 4-0 1473 1
2. Texas (1) 4-0 1408 2
3. Alabama (1) 5-0 1366 3
4. LSU 5-0 1273 4
5. Virginia Tech 4-1 1141 6
6. Boise St. 5-0 1133 5
7. USC 4-1 1123 7
8. Ohio St. 4-1 1072 9
9. TCU 4-0 965 10
10. Cincinnati 5-0 937 11
11. Miami (FL) 3-1 750 21
12. Penn St. 4-1 713 13
13. Oklahoma St. 3-1 702 12
14. Iowa 5-0 655 17
15. Kansas 4-0 616 16
16. Mississippi 3-1 460 18
17. Oregon 4-1 433 25
18. Missouri 4-0 386 23
19. Auburn 5-0 369 NR
20. BYU 4-1 353 21
21. Oklahoma 2-2 346 8
22. Nebraska 3-1 329 24
23. Georgia Tech 4-1 278 NR
24. South Florida 5-0 220 NR
25. Wisconsin 5-0 156 NR

Others Receiving Votes:
Georgia 148, South Carolina 128, Notre Dame 57, Houston 52, Stanford 43, Michigan 33, Utah 31, Boston Coll. 15, Pittsburgh 6, Arizona 2, West Virginia 1, Arkansas 1, Cent. Michigan 1

HARRIS POLL

Rank Team Record Pts Last Week
1. Florida (97) 4-0 2818 1
2. Texas (12) 4-0 2705 2
3. Alabama (5) 5-0 2665 3
4. LSU 5-0 2469 4
5. Boise St. 5-0 2245 5
6. Virginia Tech 4-1 2187 6
7. USC 4-1 2173 7
8. Ohio St. 4-1 1980 8
9. Cincinnati 5-0 1866 10
10. TCU 4-0 1773 11
11. Iowa 5-0 1492 14
12. Miami (FL) 3-1 1471 22
13. Penn St. 4-1 1316 12
14. Oklahoma St. 3-1 1157 15
15. Oregon 4-1 1067 23
16. Kansas 4-0 1065 16
17. BYU 4-1 847 19
18. Mississippi 3-1 822 18
19. Auburn 5-0 801 NR
20. Oklahoma 2-2 695 9
21. Nebraska 3-1 509 24
22. Georgia Tech 4-1 505 NR
23. Missouri 4-0 476 25
24. South Florida 5-0 442 NR
25. Wisconsin 5-0 362 NR

Others Receiving Votes:
Houston 239, Georgia 221, South Carolina 211, Notre Dame 126, Stanford 101, Michigan 85, Utah 63, California 28, Pittsburgh 25, West Virginia 16, Boston Coll. 15, Arizona 10, Texas Tech 1, Rutgers 1

We're ranked ahead of Ohio State for the first time in our history. The Bearcats are making a lot of history the last 3 years!

I've got mixed feelings about USF's ranking. On one hand, it's great to be ranked, and we've earned it

On the other, getting ranked has been the Kiss of Death for USF in the past.

If UC goes undefeated, many are saying that they will still not play in the BCS NC game. No respect for the Big East, just no respect.

(10-04-2009 02:08 PM)CatsClaw Wrote:  We're ranked ahead of Ohio State for the first time in our history. The Bearcats are making a lot of history the last 3 years!

No, we were ranked above OSU in 1951. November 21, to be exact - we were #20 and the Buckeyes were unranked, according to C. Trent Rosecrans.

(10-04-2009 04:08 PM)CD11 Wrote:  

(10-04-2009 02:08 PM)CatsClaw Wrote:  We're ranked ahead of Ohio State for the first time in our history. The Bearcats are making a lot of history the last 3 years!

No, we were ranked above OSU in 1951. November 21, to be exact - we were #20 and the Buckeyes were unranked, according to C. Trent Rosecrans.

Nice! Thanks for the info!

(10-04-2009 04:06 PM)Sandiss Wrote:  If UC goes undefeated, many are saying that they will still not play in the BCS NC game. No respect for the Big East, just no respect.

If that's what happens, and it's not UF-Texas in the NCG, then I'm going to have an extremely hard time understanding why we're even in the BCS. I was under the impression that being in an AQ conference in the BCS meant we qualified to be in the national title game. Now, if it's a situation where those two teams are 1 and 2, and have been all year, and we're the odd man out, then personally, I'd be okay with that. But if some crappy one or two loss team were to get in over us, and we were 12-0, we might as well just go back to CUSA, imo, because at that point the output of having a great team in either conference would be just about equal. Again, jmo.

(10-04-2009 04:06 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I've got mixed feelings about USF's ranking. On one hand, it's great to be ranked, and we've earned it

On the other, getting ranked has been the Kiss of Death for USF in the past.

I saw on the USF site that USF has been ranked in 20 of the last 39 polls so USF hasn't always dropped out right away.

USF has to learn how to finish and play with a chip when ranked. This could be the year.

isnt miami a little high? i know they beat oklahoma, but barely, at home and oku didnt have bradford.

At this point, I think it's unlikely an undefeated UC team wouldn't make it. I think the only 1 loss team that would get in over the Bearcats would be the SEC champion (although it's possible a 1 loss USC or 1 loss Big 12 team might). That means so long as the Big 12 champion has one loss, and Iowa and Wisconsin lose at some point, an undefeated UC team would be in the top 2.

With that said, there is a long way to go in the season, and I wouldn't bet on anyone going undefeated at this point.

Way too early for NC talk. If either UC or USF goes undefeated, they will be in the NC picture, unless like someone said, UF and Texas go undefeated. USF still has to play 2 top 10 teams, potentially. UC and Miami. A Miami win would vault us way up there.

I think Texas is going to fall along the way along with Florida and maybe Alabama. Alot of football left to be played before UC and USF are legit NC players. For all we know UC can fall on its face and lose 3 games and USF could completely fall apart like they have some years down the stretch. By no means i'm saying this will happen. But its definately possible.

(10-04-2009 04:17 PM)animus Wrote:  I think Texas is going to fall along the way along with Florida and maybe Alabama. Alot of football left to be played before UC and USF are legit NC players. For all we know UC can fall on its face and lose 3 games and USF could completely fall apart like they have some years down the stretch. By no means i'm saying this will happen. But its definately possible.

Correct, it could happen, but I don't see USF falling apart this year due to the defense. We rotate so many big time d line personnel in it's unbelievable. Created 7 turnovers after 4 I think against FSU.

While arguments could be made all around, this is definitely a better poll than the coaches poll. It still has Penn State ranked over Iowa. With Iowa winning at Penn State, being undefeated, and having a better resume, there is no excuse there.

Ole Miss is frankly still too high in both though (at least in my opinion). There is no reason to rank them above South Carolina unless you think its victory was a huge fluke or if you think Ole Miss is going to win against Georgia unlike South Carolina.

The one thing I like better in the coaches poll is Wisconsin being ranked. I think they definitely deserve to be there.

(10-04-2009 04:14 PM)ohio1317 Wrote:  At this point, I think it's unlikely an undefeated UC team wouldn't make it. I think the only 1 loss team that would get in over the Bearcats would be the SEC champion (although it's possible a 1 loss USC or 1 loss Big 12 team might). That means so long as the Big 12 champion has one loss, and Iowa and Wisconsin lose at some point, an undefeated UC team would be in the top 2.

With that said, there is a long way to go in the season, and I wouldn't bet on anyone going undefeated at this point.

Exactly. UC has a lot of respect right now, and if UC is fortunate enough to go undefeated they would have beatena ranked Oregon State team, West Virginia, Rutgers, Pittsburgh, Fresno State, Illinois, Connecticut and a ranked South Florida squad. That would carry a lot of cache.

USF will move up several spots during the bye week due to several potential losses of other top 25 teams.

(10-04-2009 04:11 PM)CD11 Wrote:  

(10-04-2009 04:06 PM)Sandiss Wrote:  If UC goes undefeated, many are saying that they will still not play in the BCS NC game. No respect for the Big East, just no respect.

If that's what happens, and it's not UF-Texas in the NCG, then I'm going to have an extremely hard time understanding why we're even in the BCS. I was under the impression that being in an AQ conference in the BCS meant we qualified to be in the national title game. Now, if it's a situation where those two teams are 1 and 2, and have been all year, and we're the odd man out, then personally, I'd be okay with that. But if some crappy one or two loss team were to get in over us, and we were 12-0, we might as well just go back to CUSA, imo, because at that point the output of having a great team in either conference would be just about equal. Again, jmo.

they will never go back there

(10-04-2009 05:09 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  

(10-04-2009 04:11 PM)CD11 Wrote:  

(10-04-2009 04:06 PM)Sandiss Wrote:  If UC goes undefeated, many are saying that they will still not play in the BCS NC game. No respect for the Big East, just no respect.

If that's what happens, and it's not UF-Texas in the NCG, then I'm going to have an extremely hard time understanding why we're even in the BCS. I was under the impression that being in an AQ conference in the BCS meant we qualified to be in the national title game. Now, if it's a situation where those two teams are 1 and 2, and have been all year, and we're the odd man out, then personally, I'd be okay with that. But if some crappy one or two loss team were to get in over us, and we were 12-0, we might as well just go back to CUSA, imo, because at that point the output of having a great team in either conference would be just about equal. Again, jmo.

they will never go back there

And I never said we will. My point was that, if we went 12-0 and either Texas and/or Florida lost, and we didn't make the NCG, the fruits of our success would essentially be the same in either conference, leaving me bewildered as to why we're in the BCS to begin with.

Not that I think that's going to happen - realistically I don't see us going 12-0, so my argument is extremely premature, I realize.