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PourOnTheHeat Wrote:

StunnerJR Wrote:He has refused to teach Rogers the ropes and he refused to do the same for Aaron Brooks. He's been in the NFL for a while and his career is ending. You would think that he would try to pass something along to the younger generation, but other than playing and being ordinary Favre ,he hasn't done so.

That's not his job. If those guys want to know something, they'd ask and he'd answer. It's not Favre's (nor any QB's) responsibility to make sure his backups are ready to play.

Favre said something similar;however, Packer personell thought that if they drafted those guys then the future of the franchise would look bright b/c Favre would have personally coached them.

The Packers never expected Favre to be anyone's personal coach. I don't think you can expect that of anybody. They didn't draft Rodgers because they thought he could learn from Favre.

PourOnTheHeat Wrote:The Packers never expected Favre to be anyone's personal coach. I don't think you can expect that of anybody. They didn't draft Rodgers because they thought he could learn from Favre.

Are you sure? Rogers was drafted b/c of his skill and the thought of Favre tutoring him. The same was did back in '01 with Aaron Brooks.

Vince put on an amazing show last night. The few times that USC could get to him he either outran them or just stood there with a couple of guys hanging off of him and made the pass anyway. I'm not sure he can be that dominant in the NFL but there have to be a number of GM's drooling over him.

The Texans have rocks in their heads if they draft him or Bush though. They have so many needs that they should absolutely trade down. I'd think that this year there would be several teams that would pull the trigger on a deal for the #1 or #2 overall pick, considering Bush and Young are there. I'm assuming that VY comes out. It would be great if he stayed another year at UT but really, he has an NC ring and I see no way he's not picked 1 or 2 overall. $40-50 million is going to make you think long and hard.

I would say it was the thought of what Rodgers could learn by playing with him, watching him, picking his brain, practicing with him, etc. I'm sure Brooks picked some stuff up when he was up here.

PourOnTheHeat Wrote:I would say it was the thought of what Rodgers could learn by playing with him, watching him, picking his brain, practicing with him, etc. I'm sure Brooks picked some stuff up when he was up here.

Isn't that what I just stated?

No, it's not. You're saying that Favre was meant to tutor Rodgers, which is not true. I'm saying they expected Rodgers to learn from Favre. Asking questions and all that is not the same as being tutored.

Quote:The Siants have/had a pasing qb in Aaron Brooks...[Favre] refused to teach Rogers the ropes and he refused to do the same for Aaron Brooks.

The Saints didn't have a QB period. Brooks sucked. It is the QB Coach's job to coach the backup QB, not the QB. Besides, QB's have different styles. Favre can't teach another QB to be another Favre even if he wanted to.

Quote:New Orleans likely will trade the No. 2 pick for a stud and a pick somewhere in the 6-10 range, where they will draft LB AJ Hawk of Ohio State. If they don't use the trade to get a QB, I look for them to try to get Favre. Favre is finished in Green Bay, so if he is going to play, it will be elsewhere.

I doubt Favre will go to the Saints in order to play at home because he doesn't have anything left to play for. He's got kids at home to raise, and another year of football probably won't do him much. That said, the emotional impact of coming home to play for the local team (black & gold like the Golden Eagles) after a natural disaster makes for an interesting story. But for the Saints the only reason to get Favre is to draw more Mississippi fans to the baren city (last I heard population equal to the Gulfport MS, not including Biloxi etc...) and to give their newly drafted QB a year to be acquainted.

The Saints got rid of Brooks so they can draft a QB. End of story.

I know what I said Heat. Rodgers and Brooks were brought in to learn from Favre.

Brooks sucks ! Have you been watching the same guy for the last 6 years? Who has a better record as qb, over that same time period? Peyton Manning and I won't even mention Brooks' franchise records.

UAB Band Dad Wrote:Vince put on an amazing show last night. The few times that USC could get to him he either outran them or just stood there with a couple of guys hanging off of him and made the pass anyway. I'm not sure he can be that dominant in the NFL but there have to be a number of GM's drooling over him.

The Texans have rocks in their heads if they draft him or Bush though. They have so many needs that they should absolutely trade down. I'd think that this year there would be several teams that would pull the trigger on a deal for the #1 or #2 overall pick, considering Bush and Young are there. I'm assuming that VY comes out. It would be great if he stayed another year at UT but really, he has an NC ring and I see no way he's not picked 1 or 2 overall. $40-50 million is going to make you think long and hard.

I agree, Houston will trade down if Young is not in the draft. BUT, if he is, they don't have to trade down to get the same effect of getting additional quality players. Trading Carr gets them that.

The $1M question: IF Carr is traded, who would want him?

$2M question: IF Carr's contract lapses or IF the Texans refuse to pick up his option, what will the Texans have to offer another team, except a #1 pick?

StunnerJR Wrote:The $1M question: IF Carr is traded, who would want him?

$2M question: IF Carr's contract lapses or IF the Texans refuse to pick up his option, what will the Texans have to offer another team, except a #1 pick?

Lots of teams would want Carr. Miami needs a QB. Arizona needs a QB because they're going to let McNown go and Warner is not their long-term answer. Tennessee needs a QB. The Jets need a QB in a bad way, though they may be in position to get Leinart. The Eagles need insurance for McNabb badly as McMahon was awful. The Browns need a QB badly as well.

There will be some competition in trade value, though, as the Chargers will be shopping Philip Rivers.

FM, I agree with your first post on this thread. Vince Young was incredible last night.

However, if I was Pete Carroll, I would have punted on fourth down and forced Vince Young to cover more ground for that last minute touchdown drive.

Then again, that is what we did against SMU.

Flying Mouse Wrote:

StunnerJR Wrote:The $1M question: IF Carr is traded, who would want him?

$2M question: IF Carr's contract lapses or IF the Texans refuse to pick up his option, what will the Texans have to offer another team, except a #1 pick?

Lots of teams would want Carr. Miami needs a QB. Arizona needs a QB because they're going to let McNown go and Warner is not their long-term answer. Tennessee needs a QB. The Jets need a QB in a bad way, though they may be in position to get Leinart. The Eagles need insurance for McNabb badly as McMahon was awful. The Browns need a QB badly as well.

There will be some competition in trade value, though, as the Chargers will be shopping Philip Rivers.

TN will take the hometown guy, Jay Cutler.

StunnerJR Wrote:

Flying Mouse Wrote:

StunnerJR Wrote:The $1M question: IF Carr is traded, who would want him?

$2M question: IF Carr's contract lapses or IF the Texans refuse to pick up his option, what will the Texans have to offer another team, except a #1 pick?

Lots of teams would want Carr. Miami needs a QB. Arizona needs a QB because they're going to let McNown go and Warner is not their long-term answer. Tennessee needs a QB. The Jets need a QB in a bad way, though they may be in position to get Leinart. The Eagles need insurance for McNabb badly as McMahon was awful. The Browns need a QB badly as well.

There will be some competition in trade value, though, as the Chargers will be shopping Philip Rivers.

TN will take the hometown guy, Jay Cutler.

Very possible. That's who I'd pick if I were them.

I'll throw another though out there, should have been in my first post really. Vince was great, but the unsung heroes were UT's offensive line. Very seldom was USC able to bring much heat, including blitzes. Most of the time they either couldn't get anywhere near Vince, or when they tried he ran into the lanes vacated by the rushers.

I think UT graduates three guys off that OL, and that may well be a factor in VY's decision making process. Getting back to the title game is far from a gimme, and he saw what happened to Leinart who had been able to get there. My heart thinks it would be great if Vince stayed in school, but my head says that if he was my kid I'd advise him to enter the draft.

UAB Band Dad Wrote:I'll throw another though out there, should have been in my first post really. Vince was great, but the unsung heroes were UT's offensive line. Very seldom was USC able to bring much heat, including blitzes. Most of the time they either couldn't get anywhere near Vince, or when they tried he ran into the lanes vacated by the rushers.

I think UT graduates three guys off that OL, and that may well be a factor in VY's decision making process. Getting back to the title game is far from a gimme, and he saw what happened to Leinart who had been able to get there. My heart thinks it would be great if Vince stayed in school, but my head says that if he was my kid I'd advise him to enter the draft.

Point taken. The OL was great and the same can be said about USC. I believe Leinart was sacked for the 1st time last night, so kudos to the UT DL also.

that samoan lineman for USC was a freaking bulldozer. But did his head fit funny under his helmet, or what?