(03-27-2009 02:56 PM)FIU Panther Fan Wrote:  LOL, find another university boasting about attendance is the same as them boasting about their Med school. They're both non-existent but GREAT in the delusional minds of fau fans.

You have won 6 football games in the last three years you have no right to say anyhting. Until you prove something ON THE FEILD shut your mouth

(03-27-2009 08:32 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  That we can manage to win games we should of lost instead of loosing games we should of won. (Insert Obvious Troy Loss while holding the lead here)

Now I believe Rusty himself said there were three games they should have won, but did not. All in conference might I add. Weren't you guys picked to win the sunbelt by EVERY media publication? But wait, FAU doesn't lose the games they should have won. (Insert Obvious FAU Loss while Not being able to defend an EASILY defended hail mary pass)

(03-27-2009 04:07 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  You have won 6 football games in the last three years you have no right to say anyhting. Until you prove something ON THE FEILD shut your mouth

Hmm. Something. Lets see, FIU ended 5-7 before bowl season. FAU ended 6-6 before bowl season. BOTH teams were 5-6 before the Shula Bowl. So, in reality, before bowl season hit, FAU was better than FIU by virtue of a total of SEVEN POINTS. You guys were dead even untill the very end of GAME 12. I believe that's something.

But no, we're FAU, we want to keep blabbering about what FIU did two years ago and TOTALLY DISREGARD what they are doing now. We're FAU, and we don't wanna talk about how they we're neck and neck with us the entire season and in GAME 12. We don't want to talk about that.

lol, what a tard. Clearly a product of that school.

(03-27-2009 05:40 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(03-27-2009 04:07 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  You have won 6 football games in the last three years you have no right to say anyhting. Until you prove something ON THE FEILD shut your mouth

Hmm. Something. Lets see, FIU ended 5-7 before bowl season. FAU ended 6-6 before bowl season. BOTH teams were 5-6 before the Shula Bowl. So, in reality, before bowl season hit, FAU was better than FIU by virtue of a total of SEVEN POINTS. You guys were dead even untill the very end of GAME 12. I believe that's something.

But no, we're FAU, we want to keep blabbering about what FIU did two years ago and TOTALLY DISREGARD what they are doing now. We're FAU, and we don't wanna talk about how they we're neck and neck with us the entire season and in GAME 12. We don't want to talk about that.

OwlFamily,

The time will come for you and FAU. That time will be when FIU is blowing away competition during the season, and all during the week before our game. You wan't to know when we are going to overtake you? Kickoff. Yeah, we will beat you. Yes you have a 6-1 record on us, 2 bowl game wins.

You can have that, and shove it where the sun don't shine.

FIU is showing a drastic improvement, but of course you would not appreciate it.

Cristobal came in to a program 3 years ago that had a lot of wrong with it. Penalties for infractions under the previous regime, and hardly any resources that established programs take for granted.

FIU under Cristobal has come from the bottom of the bottom. Almost had a winning season (should not have lost to ULM, could've won the game vs FAU). Brought in the best recruiting class ever at FIU. And is looking to up the ante yet again.

FIU is going to be the type of program that just reloads, the type of guys we are bringing in now are miles ahead of some of the 07 & 08 seniors from the previous regime.

In 07 Cristobal and the staff were not just trying to win games, they were changing a culture. A culture of losers into a culture that hates losing more than they love winning...

The '09 edition of FIU, will show once again that FIU is progressing... We have a ways to go, in terms of where we want to be as a program. Not in terms of your idea of success. Cristobal wants championships.

And not JUST the type you get for winning the SBC.

The way the trend is going now, we could see a SBC program like never before.

FIU is not even close to peaking.

But like I said, you'll keep thinking all season that it is just a fluke.

Then kickoff will come, and we will enlighten you.

(03-28-2009 05:45 AM)posterchild Wrote:  OwlFamily,

The time will come for you and FAU. That time will be when FIU is blowing away competition during the season, and all during the week before our game. You wan't to know when we are going to overtake you? Kickoff. Yeah, we will beat you. Yes you have a 6-1 record on us, 2 bowl game wins.

You can have that, and shove it where the sun don't shine. (Point A)

FIU is showing a drastic improvement, but of course you would not appreciate it.

Cristobal came in to a program 3 years ago that had a lot of wrong with it. Penalties for infractions under the previous regime, and hardly any resources that established programs take for granted.

FIU under Cristobal has come from the bottom of the bottom. Almost had a winning season (should not have lost to ULM, could've won the game vs FAU). Brought in the best recruiting class ever at FIU. And is looking to up the ante yet again.

FIU is going to be the type of program that just reloads (Point B), the type of guys we are bringing in now are miles ahead of some of the 07 & 08 seniors from the previous regime.

In 07 Cristobal and the staff were not just trying to win games, they were changing a culture. A culture of losers into a culture that hates losing more than they love winning...

The '09 edition of FIU, will show once again that FIU is progressing... We have a ways to go, in terms of where we want to be as a program. Not in terms of your idea of success. Cristobal wants championships.

And not JUST the type you get for winning the SBC.

The way the trend is going now, we could see a SBC program like never before.

FIU is not even close to peaking.

But like I said, you'll keep thinking all season that it is just a fluke.

Then kickoff will come, and we will enlighten you.

Point A: Where exactly is that in the Sunshine State?

Point B: Copy cat. That is what WE do.

(03-28-2009 05:45 AM)posterchild Wrote:  OwlFamily,

The time will come for you and FAU. That time will be when FIU is blowing away competition during the season, and all during the week before our game. You wan't to know when we are going to overtake you? Kickoff. Yeah, we will beat you. Yes you have a 6-1 record on us, 2 bowl game wins.

You can have that, and shove it where the sun don't shine.

FIU is showing a drastic improvement, but of course you would not appreciate it.

Cristobal came in to a program 3 years ago that had a lot of wrong with it. Penalties for infractions under the previous regime, and hardly any resources that established programs take for granted.

FIU under Cristobal has come from the bottom of the bottom. Almost had a winning season (should not have lost to ULM, could've won the game vs FAU). Brought in the best recruiting class ever at FIU. And is looking to up the ante yet again.

FIU is going to be the type of program that just reloads, the type of guys we are bringing in now are miles ahead of some of the 07 & 08 seniors from the previous regime.

In 07 Cristobal and the staff were not just trying to win games, they were changing a culture. A culture of losers into a culture that hates losing more than they love winning...

The '09 edition of FIU, will show once again that FIU is progressing... We have a ways to go, in terms of where we want to be as a program. Not in terms of your idea of success. Cristobal wants championships.

And not JUST the type you get for winning the SBC.

The way the trend is going now, we could see a SBC program like never before.

FIU is not even close to peaking.

But like I said, you'll keep thinking all season that it is just a fluke.

Then kickoff will come, and we will enlighten you.

Cristobal is a great coach but thats problem for you guys if you go 7-5 this year he will be gone. No qestion This idea that Cristobal is going to stick around for years is crazy. Once he leaves then what makes so special. I dont get were you guys see your program moveing so much faster then ours the real diffrence between the two programs is we have already won you guys just hope. Talk is cheap you guys need to prove something on feild before i start beliveing you a real program. O and just becuase you almost beat us once doesnt mean your as good as us.

(03-28-2009 05:27 PM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(03-28-2009 05:45 AM)posterchild Wrote:  OwlFamily,

The time will come for you and FAU. That time will be when FIU is blowing away competition during the season, and all during the week before our game. You wan't to know when we are going to overtake you? Kickoff. Yeah, we will beat you. Yes you have a 6-1 record on us, 2 bowl game wins.

You can have that, and shove it where the sun don't shine.

FIU is showing a drastic improvement, but of course you would not appreciate it.

Cristobal came in to a program 3 years ago that had a lot of wrong with it. Penalties for infractions under the previous regime, and hardly any resources that established programs take for granted.

FIU under Cristobal has come from the bottom of the bottom. Almost had a winning season (should not have lost to ULM, could've won the game vs FAU). Brought in the best recruiting class ever at FIU. And is looking to up the ante yet again.

FIU is going to be the type of program that just reloads, the type of guys we are bringing in now are miles ahead of some of the 07 & 08 seniors from the previous regime.

In 07 Cristobal and the staff were not just trying to win games, they were changing a culture. A culture of losers into a culture that hates losing more than they love winning...

The '09 edition of FIU, will show once again that FIU is progressing... We have a ways to go, in terms of where we want to be as a program. Not in terms of your idea of success. Cristobal wants championships.

And not JUST the type you get for winning the SBC.

The way the trend is going now, we could see a SBC program like never before.

FIU is not even close to peaking.

But like I said, you'll keep thinking all season that it is just a fluke.

Then kickoff will come, and we will enlighten you.

Cristobal is a great coach but thats problem for you guys if you go 7-5 this year he will be gone. No qestion This idea that Cristobal is going to stick around for years is crazy. Once he leaves then what makes so special. I dont get were you guys see your program moveing so much faster then ours the real diffrence between the two programs is we have already won you guys just hope. Talk is cheap you guys need to prove something on feild before i start beliveing you a real program. O and just becuase you almost beat us once doesnt mean your as good as us.

Look do you want to make a bet on this? I could say if Schnelly wins the Sun Belt again there is no way he won't get an offer from some big school to coach somewhere. But will that happen? No. Do you know Mr. Cristobal? Name one source that says he is displeased with his current position. Show me one interview where he states he wants a job elsewhere. Name one place where he talks about his dream coaching job. Guess what? You're not gonna find it. He's gonna be a nightmare for Belt teams (specifically FAU) for years to come.

(03-28-2009 06:28 PM)Joel Wrote:  Look do you want to make a bet on this? I could say if Schnelly wins the Sun Belt again there is no way he won't get an offer from some big school to coach somewhere. But will that happen? No. Do you know Mr. Cristobal? Name one source that says he is displeased with his current position. Show me one interview where he states he wants a job elsewhere. Name one place where he talks about his dream coaching job. Guess what? You're not gonna find it. He's gonna be a nightmare for Belt teams (specifically FAU) for years to come.

I think the point FAU fans are trying to make has to do with Mario's age. They feel, since he's so much younger than Howard, if a bigger school offers him, he'll take the job to advance his career. FAU fans feel Howard is too old to be offered by anyone else, and too old to go anywhere even is someone did offer. I actually agree with that. I don't know about Cristobal, but FAU fans aren't completely wrong. He could end up getting snagged by someone else. We said Tony Franklin wouldn't leave Troy, but he went to Auburn and now coaches at our rival school, go figure. But it's very possible that Cristobal could end up staying at FIU and making it a monster. Who knows, I don't and certainly FAU fans don't know for sure either. Just my take on it though, my non biased view from the outside. I hope Cristobal stays at FIU, for the Sunbelt's sake. I really like him as a coach, from what I've seen of him, and I think he's a great guy to have around in the Sunbelt.

(03-29-2009 09:00 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(03-28-2009 06:28 PM)Joel Wrote:  Look do you want to make a bet on this? I could say if Schnelly wins the Sun Belt again there is no way he won't get an offer from some big school to coach somewhere. But will that happen? No. Do you know Mr. Cristobal? Name one source that says he is displeased with his current position. Show me one interview where he states he wants a job elsewhere. Name one place where he talks about his dream coaching job. Guess what? You're not gonna find it. He's gonna be a nightmare for Belt teams (specifically FAU) for years to come.

I think the point FAU fans are trying to make has to do with Mario's age. They feel, since he's so much younger than Howard, if a bigger school offers him, he'll take the job to advance his career. FAU fans feel Howard is too old to be offered by anyone else, and too old to go anywhere even is someone did offer. I actually agree with that. I don't know about Cristobal, but FAU fans aren't completely wrong. He could end up getting snagged by someone else. We said Tony Franklin wouldn't leave Troy, but he went to Auburn and now coaches at our rival school, go figure. But it's very possible that Cristobal could end up staying at FIU and making it a monster. Who knows, I don't and certainly FAU fans don't know for sure either. Just my take on it though, my non biased view from the outside. I hope Cristobal stays at FIU, for the Sunbelt's sake. I really like him as a coach, from what I've seen of him, and I think he's a great guy to have around in the Sunbelt.

Watch any interview he's given.. any clip. You choose. Whether it's a radio interview with WQAM or 790 The Ticket, or an interview with CBS 4 or Channel 7 Fox News here in Miami. Watch his press conferences, particularly his signing day press conferences. You watch those and tell me this is a guy who is not committed to FIU for years to come. If he does somehow leave after the next couple seasons, then I will apologize. But this is his baby, his monster. HE is the one who took this program. HE is the one who says he wants to win championships here. HE is the one who after the final game of the season was over got up at 6 in the morning the next day to hit the recruiting trail. HE is the one who is inspiring students to buy what he's doing in this program.

You're telling me he is doing all of this just to get a "better" job? No, Cristobal knows what he's doing. He knows what this is going to become and it's going to be "better" than any job there is out there. That's what Owl fans and some other fans fail to see. They're too present and past-minded to see that.

Cristobal is not going anywhere for a long, long time. If I was a gambling man I would put money on that.

(03-29-2009 09:30 AM)Joel Wrote:  

(03-29-2009 09:00 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(03-28-2009 06:28 PM)Joel Wrote:  Look do you want to make a bet on this? I could say if Schnelly wins the Sun Belt again there is no way he won't get an offer from some big school to coach somewhere. But will that happen? No. Do you know Mr. Cristobal? Name one source that says he is displeased with his current position. Show me one interview where he states he wants a job elsewhere. Name one place where he talks about his dream coaching job. Guess what? You're not gonna find it. He's gonna be a nightmare for Belt teams (specifically FAU) for years to come.

I think the point FAU fans are trying to make has to do with Mario's age. They feel, since he's so much younger than Howard, if a bigger school offers him, he'll take the job to advance his career. FAU fans feel Howard is too old to be offered by anyone else, and too old to go anywhere even is someone did offer. I actually agree with that. I don't know about Cristobal, but FAU fans aren't completely wrong. He could end up getting snagged by someone else. We said Tony Franklin wouldn't leave Troy, but he went to Auburn and now coaches at our rival school, go figure. But it's very possible that Cristobal could end up staying at FIU and making it a monster. Who knows, I don't and certainly FAU fans don't know for sure either. Just my take on it though, my non biased view from the outside. I hope Cristobal stays at FIU, for the Sunbelt's sake. I really like him as a coach, from what I've seen of him, and I think he's a great guy to have around in the Sunbelt.

Watch any interview he's given.. any clip. You choose. Whether it's a radio interview with WQAM or 790 The Ticket, or an interview with CBS 4 or Channel 7 Fox News here in Miami. Watch his press conferences, particularly his signing day press conferences. You watch those and tell me this is a guy who is not committed to FIU for years to come. If he does somehow leave after the next couple seasons, then I will apologize. But this is his baby, his monster. HE is the one who took this program. HE is the one who says he wants to win championships here. HE is the one who after the final game of the season was over got up at 6 in the morning the next day to hit the recruiting trail. HE is the one who is inspiring students to buy what he's doing in this program.

You're telling me he is doing all of this just to get a "better" job? No, Cristobal knows what he's doing. He knows what this is going to become and it's going to be "better" than any job there is out there. That's what Owl fans and some other fans fail to see. They're too present and past-minded to see that.

Cristobal is not going anywhere for a long, long time. If I was a gambling man I would put money on that.

Don't get me wrong, all of the interviews I've seen show a great commitment to FIU and he really is the real deal and will take FIU to new heights. Do I think he's doing that to get a better job? No, I don't. Do I think if you guys do really really well this year, he'll be gone? No. I do think however, that he's not gonna be around forever. I think he'll be around another 2 or 3 years at least. Howard built a few teams from nothing, and was very committed to them too, but those schools weren't his "prize" program. As much as Cristobal loves FIU, he's not committed to them all his life.

I totally agree he's a great coach, but to my knowledge, he has no real ties other than being FIU's coach. I don't think if you guys go 7-5 in the Sunbelt next year, BCS teams are gonna beating down your door to hire him. Remember, from the BCS perspective, 7-5 in the sunbelt is not that big of a deal.

And you don't need to apologize, we're all friends here, regardless of what forum we're in.

Personally, I would feel betrayed if Cristobal left before FIU reached its max potential and what he said he wanted to do here. He has proven to the fans that he is an extremely committed and hard-working individual and it would go against his character if he jumped ship for another team. Usually, I wouldn't feel this way about a coach because I have never seen anyone like Cristobal. In the pros down here, no one truly trusted Nick Saban, or Dave Wannstedt, or any real coach except Don Shula, really. I can't think of anyone else. It's rare to see this kind of a fire and passion in a coach, and we have found that in Cristobal. Actions speak louder than words, and his actions speak volumes.

Haha yeah when it's all said and done, we're all pals!

(03-29-2009 10:05 AM)Joel Wrote:  Personally, I would feel betrayed if Cristobal left before FIU reached its max potential and what he said he wanted to do here. He has proven to the fans that he is an extremely committed and hard-working individual and it would go against his character if he jumped ship for another team. Usually, I wouldn't feel this way about a coach because I have never seen anyone like Cristobal. In the pros down here, no one truly trusted Nick Saban, or Dave Wannstedt, or any real coach except Don Shula, really. I can't think of anyone else. It's rare to see this kind of a fire and passion in a coach, and we have found that in Cristobal. Actions speak louder than words, and his actions speak volumes.

Haha yeah when it's all said and done, we're all pals!

My point is caochs leave to go to bigger programs its that simple. Just look at Rich Rodriguez there was no evendece of him leaveing and left a program like WV. Mario is a great young coach with recurting ties to south florida he will by on many big teams radar if he puts together a winning season. This idea is just crazy that he is going to want to stick around in coach in front of 10k every week is crazy. We got lucky with howard but id o worry once he retries if we do get a good young coach he will be gone in 3 years its problem all small confrence teams have.

(03-29-2009 11:20 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(03-29-2009 10:05 AM)Joel Wrote:  Personally, I would feel betrayed if Cristobal left before FIU reached its max potential and what he said he wanted to do here. He has proven to the fans that he is an extremely committed and hard-working individual and it would go against his character if he jumped ship for another team. Usually, I wouldn't feel this way about a coach because I have never seen anyone like Cristobal. In the pros down here, no one truly trusted Nick Saban, or Dave Wannstedt, or any real coach except Don Shula, really. I can't think of anyone else. It's rare to see this kind of a fire and passion in a coach, and we have found that in Cristobal. Actions speak louder than words, and his actions speak volumes.

Haha yeah when it's all said and done, we're all pals!

My point is caochs leave to go to bigger programs its that simple. Just look at Rich Rodriguez there was no evendece of him leaveing and left a program like WV. Mario is a great young coach with recurting ties to south florida he will by on many big teams radar if he puts together a winning season. This idea is just crazy that he is going to want to stick around in coach in front of 10k every week is crazy. We got lucky with howard but id o worry once he retries if we do get a good young coach he will be gone in 3 years its problem all small confrence teams have.

You have no clue what is going on at this university. None. Do you come here? We average more than 10k a game thank you very much, and we will be surpassing those numbers from now on. That's a fact. And again, you say it's "crazy" that he stays but have said nothing to indicate much. I would say it was equally "crazy" for FAU to get Howard to start a program from zero.

And the last part of your post just confirmed that you're wrong. We are not content being a small conference program. Mario wants to take us from small-time to big-time and is well on his way to doing so. You're logic is faulty and it shows you have no idea what plans FIU has for this program.

I suggest to sticking with what you know, which I presume is FAU. I won't pretend to know things about your program, or anyone else's for that matter. I'm just telling you right now, Mario will stay. And you and everyone else in the conference is going to have to learn to deal with this rising star of a coach. If you're waiting for him to leave, don't hold your breath.

(03-29-2009 11:20 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(03-29-2009 10:05 AM)Joel Wrote:  Personally, I would feel betrayed if Cristobal left before FIU reached its max potential and what he said he wanted to do here. He has proven to the fans that he is an extremely committed and hard-working individual and it would go against his character if he jumped ship for another team. Usually, I wouldn't feel this way about a coach because I have never seen anyone like Cristobal. In the pros down here, no one truly trusted Nick Saban, or Dave Wannstedt, or any real coach except Don Shula, really. I can't think of anyone else. It's rare to see this kind of a fire and passion in a coach, and we have found that in Cristobal. Actions speak louder than words, and his actions speak volumes.

Haha yeah when it's all said and done, we're all pals!

My point is caochs leave to go to bigger programs its that simple. Just look at Rich Rodriguez there was no evendece of him leaveing and left a program like WV. Mario is a great young coach with recurting ties to south florida he will by on many big teams radar if he puts together a winning season. This idea is just crazy that he is going to want to stick around in coach in front of 10k every week is crazy. We got lucky with howard but id o worry once he retries if we do get a good young coach he will be gone in 3 years its problem all small confrence teams have.

First off...I find it very plausible...and very possible, that Mario would leave FIU in a couple of years if he keeps improving the program and making FIU the winner he wants it to be. It's just human nature...if some "big" college comes to University Park and offers MC a package worth several millions...you don't think he could make the move...or at least strongly consider it? Of course, it is a big probability, and it happens every year with major college teams around the nation, I'm very sorry to say...

So, while I share your enthusiasm...and admiration for what Cristobal has done for FIU in such a short amount of time, don't hold your breath on him not leaving nor feel betrayed if he does. That's not to say that FIU will not do everything possible to have him stay at FIU . I hope they do. After all, Mario does have an "extra" connection for him to say in South Florida. ...he is a Miami native, and has proven throughout his history he likes to play, and coach at "home".

What I find interesting is some of this very same FAU fans were first making fun of Cristobal and FIU just a year ago, based on his inexperience and 1-11 record in his first year at FIU...are now saying...well, more than likely hoping...Cristobal leaves FIU as soon as possible, since, whether they like to admit it or not...FIU is not the same FIU of 2 years ago with him at the reins....Cristobal might or might not leave FIU soon...but Howard won't be there for long either, due to his age...So, there you have it....who leaves (if MC does) the program in a better shape might determine the future of both programs....if MC stays.... If Mario stays at FIU, there is no contest who has the brightest future...which is more important than the short history of both programs left behind.....

Cristobal would only leave here to coach one school. But that school likely would not offer him for a while. If shannon gets fired anytime soon, my idea is they have Cristobal on the list.

Miami gives him a bigger recruiting budget, bigger staff and travel budget, bigger salary and more exposure and a larger fan base at the current moment.

Now ten years down the line, if he is still around, who knows maybe FIU will have increased the budget, and salary, and maybe he really falls in love with everything here.

It is hard to say, I think every school in the SBC and MAC would be seen as a stepping stone program for coaches.

I have to think Pete Garcia will do everything in his power to keep Cristobal here. Plus like you said, as a Miami native, he has been given an opportunity to coach close to home. Not only that, Miami is one of the largest TV markets in the nation with a location that is rich in football talent. There are just so many factors that come into play here, too many things working in FIU's favor, that would make him want to stay here and not leave. There will be offers for his services without a doubt, but I just don't think he would give up what he is building here. At least that is the impression I get when it comes to him.

That is what every FIU fans hopes....and I agree, the longer he stays with FIU...and with that it moeans victories, better players, bowl games, expansion and remodelation of our football stadium...and an "expansion" on his salary level....the less likely he is to leave....If everything gets together for that to happen, it would mean great things for FIU Athletics...and FIU Football in particular....

At any rate....we keep bringing in better and better recruits every time....Mario is also learning on the job how to become a better and better game time coach....he is young, but smart and (hopefully) willing and able to learn from past "rookie" mistakes...that combination could be explosive for FIU......

I just think that if a lets say a SEC comes along with a huge contract and he get to oppertunity to coach in front of a sold out stadium every week against the best teams in the country how can you say no. Like someone said its human nature of course he is going to say all the right things now and do his best to make FIU a great football team but there is only so much fiu can grow so much is so little time.

While I know this is the FIU/FAU smack thread its good to see some "real" talk about FIU.

I agree that if FIU and Cristobal has a good year and makes a bowl, (Certainly Plausible if not probable) you guys better watch Cristobal. He's very young and an in trouble BCS program (Louisville comes to mind) could try to swipe in and steal him

With his S. Florida connections and proven ability to recruit he is a juicy target. Throw in a whole lot of BCS Money and a "national" stage to perform on he would probably go. Cant blame him either. EVERYONE wants to better themselves professionally.

Now, Enough of this lucidity and constructive FIU coaching staff crap.

Let me check something......













Oh yeah.

FIU STILL SUCKS!

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