Six Pack Wrote:Not sure how they do math in Boise.

I know.

Boazy State Alumni Association Favorite Recipes Wrote:If a semi tractor with two refrigerated trailors is loaded with 5 tons of twinkies heads east from Boazy at 10:00 a.m. travelling 65 mph and 24 fully laden African swallows head West from Burley at 10:30 travelling 25 mph, where and when will Slapdaddy enjoy a fowl luncheon, if you have but one cook, one shovel, one premade Albertson's brand pie crust, and the average time to pluck and clean a swallow is 15 minutes?

gaard Wrote:By the way, how do you prove something that is imagined?

Boise fans seem to do it on a daily basis...

Nevada shared a title with USU in 1996 and 1997 and beat USU in 1996......never heard one complaint about having to share a title.

I don't remember Boise fans crying so much back in the old days....you must be newer fans because the old school fans were classy. A winning program does gather a lot of barnacles though.

gaard Wrote:By the way, how do you prove something that is imagined?

By the way, thanks for proving my point. Imagined is the key word here...and it was your imagination of things being passed off as facts that I was questioning.

I say good day sir.

Slapdad Wrote:Nevada shared a title with USU in 1996 and 1997 and beat USU in 1996......never heard one complaint about having to share a title.
I don't remember Boise fans crying so much back in the old days....you must be newer fans because the old school fans were classy. A winning program does gather a lot of barnacles though.

Boise Fans aren't crying about sharing the title. If your team doesn't go undefeated in conference, then claiming a championship should be tic because an opponent obviously played better.

I remember Nevada fans from the BSC days. They were a lot different than the fans that threw out F*** Boise and the like as they were leaving Mackay Stadium before the game was over. I am also sure the post "I don't care about the award, but here is how we should have been first" was anything but class.

Six Pack Wrote:and it was your imagination of things being passed off as facts that I was questioning.

Too bad you never acquired any reading comprehension.

gaard Wrote:Too bad you never acquired any reading comprehension.

Ahhh...so you had to go there. You had to take a perfectly good discussion and ruin it by throwing out the personal insults and the all too cliche "you might want to learn some reading comprehension" (funny...never heard THAT one before on a message board. Bravo for your creativity!) That's very rich and very mature. What comes next? Yo mama jokes? Or are we going to meet at the bike racks after school?

You guys take this stuff WAY too seriously. Lighten up. Sheesh...I already told you Boise is the greastest thing ever. What more do you want? A church in your honor? A new religion? Fine...I'll start one today. I'll make sure the Boise logo is at the head of the altar, and thus we can all go in and worship Boise State. What shall our followers be called? Broncotarians?

I also find it strangely ironic that you stated Nevada fans would be the ones whining if they had to share a conference championship with a team they beat...yet some of the Boise fans seem to be putting a lot of energy into this discussion whining about Nevada's co-championship. Hmmm...

Six Pack Wrote:

gaard Wrote:Too bad you never acquired any reading comprehension.

Ahhh...so you had to go there. You had to take a perfectly good discussion and ruin it by throwing out the personal insults and the all too cliche "you might want to learn some reading comprehension" (funny...never heard THAT one before on a message board. Bravo for your creativity!) That's very rich and very mature. What comes next? Yo mama jokes? Or are we going to meet at the bike racks after school?

You guys take this stuff WAY too seriously. Lighten up. Sheesh...I already told you Boise is the greastest thing ever. What more do you want? A church in your honor? A new religion? Fine...I'll start one today. I'll make sure the Boise logo is at the head of the altar, and thus we can all go in and worship Boise State. What shall our followers be called? Broncotarians?

I also find it strangely ironic that you stated Nevada fans would be the ones whining if they had to share a conference championship with a team they beat...yet some of the Boise fans seem to be putting a lot of energy into this discussion whining about Nevada's co-championship. Hmmm...

How did you feel insulted? If you actually did then I would probably have to take "and it was your imagination of things being passed off as facts that I was questioning" as you accusing me of lying since that is not what I stated. Who is really taking this seriously?

It was an implied insult to my intelligence. I said nothing about you being a liar, nor did I imply it. You asked the question of how can you prove something that is imagined? I'm assuming when you say imagined, you are referring to your theory that Pack fans would be crying if we had to share the conference championship with a team we had beaten. And that was exactly my point...the fact that it (being the Pack fans crying) hasn't happened. I cited one example where Nevada did share a championship with a team they beat. Slapdad gave a couple of others.

And it still doesn't explain the irony of making a statement about Nevada fans being the ones crying when it is Boise fans putting all this energy into complaining about Nevada's co-championship. The Boise fans are doing the exact same thing that they are hypothetically accusing Nevada fans of. Curious indeed.

Anyhow I've got to run...thanks for the discussion

Don't forget guys that this WAC forum weighs heavy to the levity side of things. We kid each other here, but we always cheer for our WAC brethren. Nevada fans are my favorite fans after Utah State fans. I have spilled a lot of beer with Nevada fans since the early 70's......

Where are all the Fresno fans? They should jump in here too.......

Six Pack Wrote:It was an implied insult to my intelligence. I said nothing about you being a liar, nor did I imply it. You asked the question of how can you prove something that is imagined? I'm assuming when you say imagined, you are referring to your theory that Pack fans would be crying if we had to share the conference championship with a team we had beaten. And that was exactly my point...the fact that it (being the Pack fans crying) hasn't happened. I cited one example where Nevada did share a championship with a team they beat. Slapdad gave a couple of others.

And it still doesn't explain the irony of making a statement about Nevada fans being the ones crying when it is Boise fans putting all this energy into complaining about Nevada's co-championship. The Boise fans are doing the exact same thing that they are hypothetically accusing Nevada fans of. Curious indeed.

Anyhow I've got to run...thanks for the discussion

You just proved my point. I never questioned your intelligence, just your reading comprehension, and they are not always the same thing. Are you are telling me it is in your case? There was one Boise fan, not "fans". Slapdad gave USU as an example, not "examples". If you would take your time reading, you wouldn't see implications in every post you don't agree with.

Quote: I am also sure the post "I don't care about the award, but here is how we should have been first" was anything but class.

By the way.....when you put something in quotes, it means that it is taken, word for word, from what was said by someone else. Don't take this post:

"Congrats...but I don't put a whole lot of stock into the commissioners cup. Boise competes in more sports and gets a huge boost for winning the WAC in gymnastics as there are only two WAC teams participate in gymnastics, and thus only two teams score points for the cup.

There are six sports in which all nine WAC teams participate. If you eliminate every other sport (in which at least one member does not participate so as to make it fair) and compare only WAC sports in which all WAC teams participate, the standings would come out like this- "

And turn it into: "I don't care about the award, but here is how we should have been first".


And for what it's worth, a BSU fan on BroncoCountry posted after the Nevada game in Boise that a whole bunch of BSU fans did the "F*** Nevada" chant along with chants about Ault and Tormey and that he stood up to tell them to knock it off....it goes both ways, so don't get fitted for a halo just yet. In fact, it's sad, but I've heard that chant at Fresno, CSU, Oregon, and UNLV (lots). Even though it's usually only a few drunken students, it looks bad for the entire school.

Slapdad Wrote:

Quote: I am also sure the post "I don't care about the award, but here is how we should have been first" was anything but class.

By the way.....when you put something in quotes, it means that it is taken, word for word, from what was said by someone else. Don't take this post:

"Congrats...but I don't put a whole lot of stock into the commissioners cup. Boise competes in more sports and gets a huge boost for winning the WAC in gymnastics as there are only two WAC teams participate in gymnastics, and thus only two teams score points for the cup.

There are six sports in which all nine WAC teams participate. If you eliminate every other sport (in which at least one member does not participate so as to make it fair) and compare only WAC sports in which all WAC teams participate, the standings would come out like this- "

And turn it into: "I don't care about the award, but here is how we should have been first".


And for what it's worth, a BSU fan on BroncoCountry posted after the Nevada game in Boise that a whole bunch of BSU fans did the "F*** Nevada" chant along with chants about Ault and Tormey and that he stood up to tell them to knock it off....it goes both ways, so don't get fitted for a halo just yet. In fact, it's sad, but I've heard that chant at Fresno, CSU, Oregon, and UNLV (lots). Even though it's usually only a few drunken students, it looks bad for the entire school.

You left out the part of his post where he ranked Nevada first. It wasn't a quote. It was a paraphrase since I didn't reference the author. How about "Congrats, but here is how it should have been calculated with my team winning"?

I have never, nor would I say that BSU fans have a halo. I never hailed the superior sportsmanship of Bronco fans. I have never participated in the chant. I can only account for myself. I did respond in kind at Mackay, but I directed it to them and only after half a dozen times. You can wiggle all you want to, but a Nevada fan claiming they posses superior character is like a snake calling a lizard low.

I understood that you were paraphrasing....I also understand that you obviously don't know that you don't use quotation marks when paraphrasing....whether you attribute it to the author or not (especially when the author known by the post, whether it be expressly or implicitly).

"I have never, nor would I say that BSU fans have a halo. I never hailed the superior sportsmanship of Bronco fans. I have never participated in the chant. I can only account for myself. I did respond in kind at Mackay, but I directed it to them and only after half a dozen times. You can wiggle all you want to, but a Nevada fan claiming they posses superior character is like a snake calling a lizard low."

First of all, you did imply that the Nevada fans were not very classy as evidenced by you bringing up the "F*** Boise" chant as if that sort of thing would never happen in Boise. I know that there are idiots in Reno that do that sort of thing......that's why I typically don't bring it up when other fans do it.....seems kind of silly to look down your nose at another school's fans for doing something that you know happens in your own stadium....whether you participate or not.

Second......"You can wiggle all you want to, but a Nevada fan claiming they posses superior character is like a snake calling a lizard low.".......you just did, in that sentence, exactly what you claimed you would never do in the paragraph above! Your arguments are outlandish. And I never....at any time.....claimed Nevada possesed superior character, I simply pointed out that what you shook your finger at in Reno happens in Boise. It's simply a case of the pot calling the kettle black. I just don't understan your silly arguments. And if you think I will lose interest in this conversation and go away, then there are two things you must know:

1) it is the off-season and this is the only game in town, and
2) One of the few things that I enjoy more than college sports is pointing out to people the stupid things they say.

And BroncoBob, don't you dare shut this down.....as silly as it may be, it's the only activity on the board.

If you think boise state fans are acting crazy about sharing a title, just ask them about their UNDEFEATED season in 2004. You know, the one where they went 11-1.

LOL.....I think they call that Boise math.

Slapdad Wrote:LOL.....I think they call that Boise math.

We rounded up. 92% of the games we were undefeated. Why is that so hard to understand? I do that on my taxes all the time.

Besides, it's a whole lot easier than that refrigerated truck math. Yow.

<TIC emoticon here>

NetVandal Wrote:If you think boise state fans are acting crazy about sharing a title, just ask them about their UNDEFEATED season in 2004. You know, the one where they went 11-1.

Ahh but remember the Liberty Bowl loss was in the postseason. In the regular season Boise did go 11-0 so that was an undefeated season.

Sorry to burst the bubble.

gaard Wrote:You just proved my point. I never questioned your intelligence, just your reading comprehension, and they are not always the same thing. Are you are telling me it is in your case? There was one Boise fan, not "fans". Slapdad gave USU as an example, not "examples". If you would take your time reading, you wouldn't see implications in every post you don't agree with.

Holy crud now you are going to argue semantics? You're killing me Smalls...

Fine. Sorry. There was an extra 's'. Slapdad did in fact only give one example. Forgive me. But if that is the basis of your whole argument, then I think you've already lost. What was the original discussion? Do we even remember? Or is the case of the mysterious extra "s" at the end of the word your entire case?

I can see the headline now..

"WAC to strip Wolf Pack of 2005 championship because of mysterious extra letter on message board"

Thanks for solving that one. Back to the Mystery Mobile for you Velma?

Reading comprehension by definition, is an example of intelligence by the way.

But seriously...do you even remember what the orginal topic was? Now you want to argue your beloved commisioners cup? Is this why you are so bitter towards me? Wow...

Let me make this nice and crystal clear. Nowhere did I state that Nevada "should" have won the cup.

All I did was pull the numbers for the six sports in which every WAC team participated. Why? Because I was curious and I thought it would be an interesting comparison to look at the numbers comparing the sports in which every team participated. Nothing more. I had no idea when I ran them who would come out on top. And somehow that got blown up WAY out of proportion.

I was arguing a point stating that I believe in order for the award to have a little more legitimacy, the scoring system should be balanced, which it is not. That's all. I'd argue the same thing regardless of who came out on top. I made the exact same argument a year or two ago when Rice won the cup. It's a legitimate argument and for whatever reason, some Boise fans were greatly offended by this. You would have though I was walking through Iraq with a drawing of Muhammed's face on a t-shirt with the backlash that came from it.

Is there anything wrong with still having an opinion in this country? My opinion is that the scoring system should be balanced. I said congrats to Boise for winning it, but I still believe the system should be balanced. I said nothing of ill will towards Boise.

Sheesh...

If you notice, most, if not all, media sources and even school SID's do not consider a season with a loss in the regular season an undefeated season, rather they will call it an "undefeated regular season". Nevada has had three undefeated regular seasons, but no undefeated seasons.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div...easons.php

Sorry to reinflate the bubble.