Maize Wrote:Temple-Had to schedule them when UTEP backed out late.

Kansas State-Won the Big XII 3 years ago and has been a solid program the last 10 years.

Duke-We haven't played them in about 5 years.

Florida Atlantic-Schnellenberger needed a chance to play in the stadium he built. Plus he was honored with the Football Complex named in his honor in Pregame.

Again, nice try though without the fact.

Prove me wrong with a link about Alabama. You are the one that mentioned it not me. I just knew the truth that NU and FSU were the consenus 1 and 2 teams.

LMFAO! And you are the main one that tried to dismiss our win AT Nebraska a couple of years ago. They had won a NC, but they were down, and K-State is down much further than Nebraska has ever been.

Without fact? You just admitted that you played every single one of them that I stated. I believe that would be called FACTUAL, crack fiend.

Read it and weep. Bama was #3. I knew it, because that's the year we destroyed them when they were Top 10, then they proceeded to tank the rest of the season.

http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/2000.html

Now you can answer my questions. How much did that #3 preseason ranking help them? What BCS bowl did it get them? As you can see, preseason polls are nothing but ridiculous junk.

You said they were consenus number 1, this shows they were number 3. I guess you really can't count to the number 2.

CardinalJim Wrote:

Alister Fiend Wrote:He's right and you all know it. All of this time and effort speant discussing the Big East sometimes comes across as "sour grapes". Just go back and look at the posts that have been made on this board since the conference shake ups. You'll find a huge number of posts that address such topics as "the ultimate super conference comprised of CUSA and Big East teams", "the Big East sucks", "the Big East will soon lose it's BCS status", "East Carolina to the BE", "Memphis to the BE", "Marshall to the BE", "UCF to the BE", "how can we do what Louisville did so we can get in the BE", blah-blah-blah...yadda, yadda, yadda. You don't see that out of the CUSA West teams who are out there building rivalries, winning games, and winning conference championships. They are taking their new conference serious and are doing what they can to make it the best place for them.

CUSA isn't going to grow into anything as long as everyone (mostly in the East) are viewing it as a stepping stone to the Big East...you know, like Louisville did from the day they first stepped foot into CUSA. The ACC, SEC or Big 10 are not going to take any of us. We need to support this conference, build rivalries, etc. and then we won't have to spend time and bandwidth discussing that basketball conference to the east of us.

Great post...great pic as well.
CJ

ditto

Maize Wrote:You said they were consenus number 1, this shows they were number 3. I guess you really can't count to the number 2.

Keep dodging the questions, boy. There is no difference between preseason #1 and preseason #3. Your refusal to respond to the actual issue just proves that you know that you lost this debate a long time ago. Bow down, chump.

eaglefan2999 Wrote:

Maize Wrote:You said they were consenus number 1, this shows they were number 3. I guess you really can't count to the number 2.

Keep dodging the questions, boy. There is no difference between preseason #1 and preseason #3. Your refusal to respond to the actual issue just proves that you know that you lost this debate a long time ago. Bow down, chump.

1>3, that is basic math.

I can see the chant after the BCS Title Game this year, WERE NUMBER 3 WERE NUMBER 3. lmfao

Just proved my theory, you're semi retarded. Go catch that Short Bus, beep beep.

eaglefan2999 Wrote:

Maize Wrote:You said they were consenus number 1, this shows they were number 3. I guess you really can't count to the number 2.

Keep dodging the questions, boy. There is no difference between preseason #1 and preseason #3. Your refusal to respond to the actual issue just proves that you know that you lost this debate a long time ago. Bow down, chump.

Short Bus Math

What a tool

Maize Wrote:

CardinalJim Wrote:

Alister Fiend Wrote:He's right and you all know it. All of this time and effort speant discussing the Big East sometimes comes across as "sour grapes". Just go back and look at the posts that have been made on this board since the conference shake ups. You'll find a huge number of posts that address such topics as "the ultimate super conference comprised of CUSA and Big East teams", "the Big East sucks", "the Big East will soon lose it's BCS status", "East Carolina to the BE", "Memphis to the BE", "Marshall to the BE", "UCF to the BE", "how can we do what Louisville did so we can get in the BE", blah-blah-blah...yadda, yadda, yadda. You don't see that out of the CUSA West teams who are out there building rivalries, winning games, and winning conference championships. They are taking their new conference serious and are doing what they can to make it the best place for them.

CUSA isn't going to grow into anything as long as everyone (mostly in the East) are viewing it as a stepping stone to the Big East...you know, like Louisville did from the day they first stepped foot into CUSA. The ACC, SEC or Big 10 are not going to take any of us. We need to support this conference, build rivalries, etc. and then we won't have to spend time and bandwidth discussing that basketball conference to the east of us.

Great post...great pic as well.
CJ

ditto

In case you missed it, we damn near went undefeated in hoops. And no
western division team was a threat.

For basketball fans, CUSA blows.

For Memphis fans CUSA Basketball blows. The fans of the other 11 programs see promising potential and a path to recovery following the departure of certain programs.

HiddenDragon Wrote:For Memphis fans CUSA Basketball blows. The fans of the other 11 programs see the conference on a path to recovering from the blow the BE dealt out.

touche'

Maize Wrote:

eaglefan2999 Wrote:

Maize Wrote:You said they were consenus number 1, this shows they were number 3. I guess you really can't count to the number 2.

Keep dodging the questions, boy. There is no difference between preseason #1 and preseason #3. Your refusal to respond to the actual issue just proves that you know that you lost this debate a long time ago. Bow down, chump.

1>3, that is basic math.

I can see the chant after the BCS Title Game this year, WERE NUMBER 3 WERE NUMBER 3. lmfao

Just proved my theory, you're semi retarded. Go catch that Short Bus, beep beep.

Keep dodging.

Game. Set. Match. You lose.

TexanMark Wrote:

eaglefan2999 Wrote:

Maize Wrote:You said they were consenus number 1, this shows they were number 3. I guess you really can't count to the number 2.

Keep dodging the questions, boy. There is no difference between preseason #1 and preseason #3. Your refusal to respond to the actual issue just proves that you know that you lost this debate a long time ago. Bow down, chump.

Short Bus Math

What a tool

Tell that to Enema, who just got owned. The moron claimed that preseason polls determine who wins the national championship and who plays in BCS bowls. FSU, Nebraska, and Bama started the season #1, #2, and #3. The MNC that year was Oklahoma, who started at #21. Bama finished 3-8.

My point was proven beautifully, and Enema is desperately trying to save face by arguing ignorant, irrelevant semantics. My advice to you would be to not associate yourself with that self-admitted crackhead. You're already pretty stupid. He'll just drag you down even further.

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Do you know who was the consensus number 1 and number 2 teams in 2004 and 2005. I do, it was the schools that played for the BCS Title.

2004 Consensus Preseason 1 and 2 were USC and Oklahoma. Final Top 2 teams in Final BCS Poll, USC and Oklahoma.

http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/2004.html

http://www.bcsfootball.org/files/bcs-2004.pdf

2005 Consensus Preseason 1 and 2 were USC and Texas. Final Top 2 teams in Final BCS Poll, Texas and USC.

http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/2005.html

http://www.bcsfootball.org/files/bcs-2005.pdf

Like I said it is about were you start, it gives you a huge heads up on where you finish. Just ask the 2004 undefeated SEC Champs Auburn Tigers. Oh yeah, you said Alabama was CONSENSUS NUMBER 1, your words not him. Like TM said Short Bus Math, 1 is greater then 3 according to the kid with Eagle on the Brain.

The the years show another thing, every school that made it to the Final BCS Game was in the Top 15. So my Cardinals are right on the edge to be considered BCS Title Contenders with our Number 11 Consensus Ranking.

Here are the rest of the rankings this decade to make a comparison.

http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/2001.html

http://www.bcsfootball.org/files/bcs-2002.pdf


http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/2002.html

http://www.bcsfootball.org/files/bcs-2002.pdf


http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/2003.html

http://www.bcsfootball.org/files/bcs-2003.pdf

Maize Wrote:Do you know who was the consensus number 1 and number 2 teams in 2004 and 2005. I do, it was the schools that played for the BCS Title.

2004 Consensus Preseason 1 and 2 were USC and Oklahoma. Final Top 2 teams in Final BCS Poll, USC and Oklahoma.

http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/2004.html

http://www.bcsfootball.org/files/bcs-2004.pdf

2005 Consensus Preseason 1 and 2 were USC and Texas. Final Top 2 teams in Final BCS Poll, Texas and USC.

http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/2005.html

http://www.bcsfootball.org/files/bcs-2005.pdf

Like I said it is about were you start, it gives you a huge heads up on where you finish. Just ask the 2004 undefeated SEC Champs Auburn Tigers. Oh yeah, you said Alabama was CONSENSUS NUMBER 1, your words not him. Like TM said Short Bus Math, 1 is greater then 3 according to the kid with Eagle on the Brain.

The the years show another thing, every school that made it to the Final BCS Game was in the Top 15. So my Cardinals are right on the edge to be considered BCS Title Contenders with our Number 11 Consensus Ranking.

Here are the rest of the rankings this decade to make a comparison.

http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/2001.html

http://www.bcsfootball.org/files/bcs-2002.pdf


http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/2002.html

http://www.bcsfootball.org/files/bcs-2002.pdf


http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/2003.html

http://www.bcsfootball.org/files/bcs-2003.pdf

Why don't you explain how Oklahoma won ithe title when starting at #21? Or how Utah started at #20, and still made the Fiesta Bowl? Or how Bama started out #3 in the almighty, all-knowing preseason rankings, yet finished 3-8?

Because you can't, that's why. I could keep spouting off examples all day, but the point is obvious. The preseason rakings are worth as much as the toilet paper that I wipe my @ss with. They don't know jack about who is going to do what. The preseason polls weren't Auburn's problem. It was the Louisville-like patsy OOC schedule that they played that did them in, and your patsy schedule will ensure that even if you go undefeated this season, you won't sniff the title game. It doesn't matter where you start. It matters who you play and who you beat. The cream rises to the top over the course of the season. My examples prove that.

You know you're wrong, but you just aren't man enough to admit it. You keep rambling off ignorant excuses and continue to humiliate yourself. Talk about short bus...

Wow every blue moon in the BCS era a team comes out of the blue.

But more then likely it will be from someone in the Top 15 as the last 4 years suggest and very well could be two of the Top 5 like the last 2 years suggested.

OU came out of nowhere once, miracles do happen.

Oh yeah, check out 1998 and 1999. So the Preseason Polls especially the Coaches did not help in 2000. They sure the hell did in 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005.

http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/1999.html

http://www.bcsfootball.org/files/bcs-1999.pdf


http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/1998.html

http://www.bcsfootball.org/files/bcs-1998.pdf

Maize Wrote:Wow every blue moon in the BCS era a team comes out of the blue.

But more then likely it will be from someone in the Top 15 as the last 4 years suggest and very well could be two of the Top 5 like the last 2 years suggested.

OU came out of nowhere once, miracles do happen.

Nice spin, dim bulb. As I said, the cream rises to the top. It's no miracle when it does.

Maize Wrote:Oh yeah, check out 1998 and 1999. So the Preseason Polls especially the Coaches did not help in 2000. They sure the hell did in 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005.

http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/1999.html

http://www.bcsfootball.org/files/bcs-1999.pdf


http://preseason.stassen.com/consensus/1998.html

http://www.bcsfootball.org/files/bcs-1998.pdf

Yep. When teams take care of business, they play for the MNC. Doesn't matter where they start.

Maize Wrote:1>3, that is basic math.

lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao

Maize Wrote:

Magic Knight Wrote:

SMUstang Wrote:

Alister Fiend Wrote:

UTEPDallas Wrote:Its the offseason....not much going on. That"s why you see so many posters from other conferences here. It is the same on the Big East board....too many CUSA fans there. Once football season starts....you will see everybody going back to their respective boards.

I'm not sure but I think the intent of the original post was that we (CUSA fans) spend an awful lot of time discussing the Big East on this board.

That's correct, but only the C-USA East seems preoccupied with the BE.

THe CUSA EAST Fans should focus more on improving CUSA, rather than hoping for a split in the BE. THE BE's automatic BCS bid is on life support, the writing is on the wall.

How is that, please tell me how is our bid on life support.

1. Is it that the Big East can't win it BCS Bowl game. Well we have and can, see WVU-UGA.

2. Is it that the Big East doesn't have teams ranked. Well we have 25% of our league in the Polls. For comparison the Pac 10 has 30%.

3. Is it that the current Big East is not respected by the media and coaches. Well said media and coaches have 25% of the Big East in it 1st Top 15 rankings.

Now Magic Knight, please tell me how our bid is in jeopardy especially since we are meeting the BCS Criteria to keep our bid.

Maize, I know more about the Big East than you will ever know. Talk about how the BE is using UM credits and UL credits when they were in CUSA. Two teams have benefit from the ACC's Raid Rutgers and WVU. WVU moves up to the top team in the conference and Rutgers is now a bowl team. The Orange Bowl kicked you all out, Mienke Bowl got a deal with Navy, and Gator Bowl just signed the Big 12 to alternate with BE. The ACC 6th placed team beat the BE 3rd placed team, VA Tech beat both UL and WVU, and VA Tech was condsidered the 3rd place team in ACC. The rest of the BCS Conferences have better and stable bowl lineup than the BE.