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(11-26-2017 03:26 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 03:18 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 02:58 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 02:34 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 12:53 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Try selling that to Jim Boeheim who has played mostly zone for the past 40+ years. Besides, what was W&M going to do ... hit 100% instead of 90%? Not likely. Sure you can work the ball around to get an outside shot against a zone. A team can also extend the zone out further to push the shooters back a bit. As last night clearly showed, you can get plenty of good 3 point shots against a man-to-man too, especially when it is a helping man-to-man like ODU plays. W&M had several 3 point attempts where their player with the ball would cut off a screen at the top of the key and drive down the lane with a teammate set up at the 3 point line in each corner. When the ODU player on the ball side assigned to the corner 3 guy would collapse down to contest the layup, the W&M player with the ball would kick it out to him for a wide open look (and they pretty much made every one).

Boeheim's version of the zone is extremely complicated and takes years of experience to master. It isn't something you simply go to in the middle of the game. Also, Boeheim lives and dies by the zone and makes no adjustments. If we went to that, we'd be right where we started... losing without making adjustments on defense. Again, I think mixing in a little press is appropriate, particularly against athletically inferior teams that are shooting lights out, like W&M

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I don't believe that the Syracuse zone takes years of experience to master. Where did you even come up with that anyway? Besides, I didn't say that ODU had to play the zone exactly like Syracuse does. The point was to give them a different look defensively.

Again, I don't see W&M shooting any better against us if we had mixed in a zone for a few minutes here and there than how they shot when we didn't and stayed in our man-to-man. Same holds true for mixing in a press or a trap in order to change things up. Bottom line - If what you are doing isn't working, try something else.

The way I see it is there are losses where there is plenty of blame to go around to the players and coaches and there are losses where you just have to give the other team credit. This falls in the latter... And I am one of JJs harshest critics. Only complaint I had was I though he had BJ and Porter rotting on the bench way too long in the 2nd half while clearly it just wasn't going to be a spectacular night for Green or Carver. There was foul issues, but I still would have put them in sooner to stop the W&M run. Credit to BJ for coming back in and shooting us back in a game that we could have packed in

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Stith was sitting with 4 fouls. Considering his 3rd was a dumb (on his part) reach in, i don’t have an issue with him sitting for those 4 minutes.

I assume porter sat because of matchups (neither he nor Brandan) were successful in guarding their 4 man on the perimeter. Although his sitting might have been related to his illness

Not sure where to find a play by play with substitutions, but I believe you are incorrect. I think BJ was sitting with 3 and picked up #4 after he came back in under 5 minutes. Porter sat a bit longer. Both were on the bench from the time we were up 7 until we were down 6. Caver and Brandan had several turnovers between them and we jacked up a couple of dumb 3s. If there is a stretch to be critical, that was the stretch... about 7 minutes (may not be exactly accurate just going off memory). We responded well down the stretch and overcame the adversity that good teams do... and they hit a lucky halfcourt shot as well as a couple of 3s with a hand in their face.

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