(05-05-2017 09:29 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(05-05-2017 08:47 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(05-04-2017 11:09 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(05-04-2017 10:34 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(05-04-2017 09:51 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  FIFY ^^^

The NEWbigeast does NOT have football

Look at it this way... Is like purchasing a vehicle with no engine in it.

Here's how I see it, if the Nbigeast wants view themselves as a power conference than man up with football but even if they did, they'll be a league full of startups... Not gonna happen, well, not in this life time at least.

The Big East makes more TV money for just basketball than the G5 leagues do for both football and basketball. I personally think that makes them smart as opposed to some amorphous "man up" macho crap being propagated by the G5 conferences. Once again, the Big East make more TV money than the G5... and that's basically the only scoreboard that matters in conference realignment. It would be more fruitful if the G5 leagues would quit whining about it and/or pretend that they're more powerful simply because that they have football and figure out WHY the Big East is valued more in the marketplace for just basketball when the G5 teams are hemorrhaging trying to compete in FBS football.

The Big East found a valuable niche and they maximized their value in such niche with consistent branding and institutional fit, whereas the G5 leagues are hodgepodge leagues that are still deluding themselves in believing that they can ever achieve power status. There might very well be a handful of individual G5 *schools* that have a legitimate shot of moving up to power status, but people need to quit pretending that there will EVER be a thing known as the "Power 6" or "Power 7" or anything more than the current Power 5. A power conference (such as the Big 12) is more likely to be wiped out than a G5 conference ever getting elevated.

Except the criteria he stated was conferences that have high TV contracts. The nBE has less than a quarter of the TV contract of the lowest P5. They can't realistically be in that discussion.

I said this in another thread and everyone claimed I was crazy......

Compare the Big East and AAC for a moment. The Big East makes like 4 mil per team and the AAC makes like 2 mil per team. The AAC has much better exposure being on ESPN.

Now compare that to the Big 10 teams who are making over 30+ million per team in media payouts. I'm not sure in what reality 4 million is comparing to 30+ and counting.....with much more exposure.

I don't think anyone is saying that the Big East is equal to the P5 in terms of power. However, they are definitely maximizing their revenue in the other sport that has any relevance for TV purposes (basketball). That obviously cannot be said for the G5 leagues.

And yes, ESPN inherently provides more exposure, but a test pattern on ESPN could probably draw high ratings compared to FS1. The mistake waaaaaaay too many G5 fans make are thinking that the higher G5 ratings on ESPN have anything to do with the G5 leagues themselves. It's simply the power of the ESPN platform... which means that the G5 leagues will get zero credit for those ratings when it comes to negotiate new contracts. The people in the TV business know when a league actually brings people to a channel as opposed to the channel bringing a league to the people. The former group (the P5 leagues) gets paid a huge premium, whereas the latter gets paid like a commodity. The general belief among TV people is that the Big East falls into the former category at least for basketball (which is why the Big East gets paid the way that it gets paid).

A couple of caveats. Its still entirely possible that the AAC and the Big East are actually very similar in "value"---the real difference being that the AAC took less money to be on a premium platform while the Big East took a monetary premium to be on an inferior platform. Its also worth noting that the game isn't over yet. The Big East deal is 12 years where as the AAC deal is only about half as long. The AAC could very well still exceed the Big East earnings while staying on a premium platform---we will have to wait and see how the second half of the comparison develops.