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(03-27-2017 11:21 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:10 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 11:03 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 10:47 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Just for some context since I don't think "finishing 5th in conference" is really that meaningful. We tied for 3rd in record and lost in the championship game.

Here is our history since KenPom started in 2002:

02- 164
03- 162
04- 100
05- 71
06- 67
07- 64
08- 118
09- 92
10- 37
11- 47
12- 111
13- 276
14- 175
15- 69
16- 100
17- 120

People continuously make the impression that we were a powerhouse program. We were never ranked in the top 25 until 2015. We have always been a borderline top 100 type team that had a very good 2 year run in 10/11 with an NBA player in his junior and senior years.

There was a bit of a dip in 2017 from what our university "average" due to our youth, but this thought that our team is significantly worse than he was in the past is not true. We've had far worse teams probably more often than we've had far better teams.

KenPom is a guy behind a computer whose rankings use previous year performance and margin of victory and defeat in his rankings. Our RPI rankings were:

04- 91
05- 37
06- 51
07- 45
08- 124
09- 81
10- 28
11- 23

So in this 8-year stretch, we had 7 top 100s, 4 top 50s (and a 51), 2 top 30s and a top 25.

If you think our program is anywhere in this same stratosphere as it was 10 years ago, right in the middle of this stretch, you need to get your head out of the sand or lay off the Kool Aid.

You realize the Ken Pom "previous rankings" are done away with as the season goes along? The only reason they are included at the beginning...is to have a list at the beginning like the stupid top 25 rankings before the season?

Why shouldn't margin of victory and defeat be used? Why should a team get a significant bump for beating a 20 win MEAC team by 1 point versus winning by a large margin vs. a "George Mason?"

Either way, that stretch is the best stretch we have ever had as a school and were never considered a top 25 team and the best we ever did in the tournament was win 1 game.

Are we better now than 2007...of course not. Will we be top 100 next year? I'm would predict so. Will be top 50? I guess we will have to see.

Because the system you employ has a larger impact on your margins than does the quality of the team. Blaine played rockfight ball and used the entire shot clock. If team A is better than team B, their margin is going to be larger if they have 100 possesions vs 65.

On top of that, the margin is not always indicitive of how the game went. You can be up by 20 under 4 minutes and only win by 8 if you are trying to run the clock (not play hard defense to avoid fouls) and the opponent hits a bunch of meaningless 3s.

You really don't think this is equalized over an entire season? You think Blaine chose to play in close games?