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(05-08-2017 07:19 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(05-08-2017 06:07 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(05-07-2017 08:27 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-07-2017 09:11 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Champagne tastes on a beer budget. This area is notorious for having big ideas and then fatally underfunding. Due in large part to the go it alone philosophy. The Tide is case in point. A huge expense, it was underfunded and basically goes nowhere. Thus the opponents have a self fulfilling prophecy, "see we told you wouldn't work".Va. Beach's' failure to get on board is a classic example of how to kill a great idea, or at least make it significantly less than it should be.
It seems city leaders and residents want something good, then chicken out half way thru because of the expense. Until we can agree to work together as a region, sharing the huge expense of doing it right, we'll always have these ill conceived, underfunded attempts at looking vibrant.

The Tide failed because the starter line went nowhere and nobody needs to use it in their daily routine. It doesn't get anyone where they live and work. The people working downtown don't live where It goes and the people that live where It goes don't work downtown. It was a bad idea from the beginning. If the starter line went through Ghent and ODU, it would have been a success. It wasn't underfunded, it was built by Norfolk and instead of Norfolk making its own success, they hedged their success on VB, another entity, to fund its extension. So dumb and incompetent someone should be hanging by their balls at Norfolk city hall.

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When I said underfunded I was thinking to the extent that it didn't go anywhere, as you mentioned. If they had come up with the money to run it to ODU and on to Ghent and the navy base, it would have worked.

Yall realize they are studying the extension to the base right now? It will go to the base. The only question is whether it goes through Ghent and ODU or up military to the airport and to the base. It will get extended and Norfolk will start the next spur after that is completed.

They've been studying it for 20 years. It isn't happening. They lost the public with the way it started, they have no money, and none of the other cities and counties that feed HRT want anything to do with subsidizing it. They blew it.