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RE: Widening of Secor
(01-18-2017 01:02 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote: (01-18-2017 12:36 PM)indianasniff Wrote: https://ottawahills.org/news/4954
The documents were prepared by DGL Consulting Engineers in conjunction with the Secor Road Safety Study and were presented at the Ottawa Hills Special Council Meeting on 12/15/16.
Too funny! The walking north on Secor video looks exactly the same for the past 50 years. And of course they aren't using the sidewalk on the Toledo side.
Do any of the Westgate area hotels run shuttles to and from UT for the FB games? Also for some of the larger crowds(around 30,000) have they ever done parking at Westgate/Franklin Park and provided trolley/shuttle service?
TARTA runs a regular line between Franklin Park Westgate and UT. I think TARTA got rid of the trollys when the feds said they were not allowed to charter anymore
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RE: Widening of Secor
It's understandable that some property owners would be unhappy. But, how many votes do people who have to drive through there, and those who have been in accidents through there, get? The very first car accident I ever had was in there. Side swiped by a drunk driver.
I think if they did Option 1, with the wide median, it could be done in such a way so as to beautify the corridor. There is nothing aesthetically appealing about that corridor now, and the road diet option would not change that. Going with Option 1 would maximize both safety and aesthetics and would be something that would benefit generations to come, including those future generations who will live in Ottawa Hills and Old Orchard.
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RE: Widening of Secor
Drunk driver's going to get you anywhere.
Fortunately, I've never once had a problem along there at about anytime of the day, even in this SUV day of age. One car turning left though, can wreck havoc with a middle lane. I think the road diet is the best. But of course, no fed money, lol. Can't believe the guy actually said that out-loud as if that's any reason at all to pick one over another.
Widening roads, increasing throughput will entice more people to take that route. It's a self-defeating design. Been shown again and again. The way to alleviate traffic is to create a more robust solution. There are wider lanes already headed in that direction. Speeding flow through the Douglas-Bancroft-parking interchange particular at end of day, would lower University traffic on Secor, presuming that actually needed.
As someone posed, road diet is certainly an easy enough experiment to at least try but I still maintain, this is a money grab. Some dude comes peddling rotatories to tmagog and now the engineering dept wants to put them anywhere and everywhere. Even of the two on Cherry, the southern one is superfluous and makes a mess when heading N or NE onto Detroit. Very poorly marked entrance and planned exit strategies. Someone needs to slow their exuberance, lol.
Still, all these designs are better than the single point pop-quiz on the Central-23 overpass with the lane markings heading cars into on-coming. One lane of that went down and they were backed up past McCord, lol. And the blind left merger from 475 to75N? Genius ODOT, genius!
Theory is nice but observing decades of what Joe Average can actually handle usually is more likely to give a people oriented solution. Simpler is better but probably no fed money to grab in that design, lol.
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