(07-26-2014 12:00 PM)brista21 Wrote: (07-26-2014 04:13 AM)Policiious Wrote: No on Kansas, UConn or Oklahoma; not enough TV sets or in areas of strong football or hoops recruiting. Georgia Tech (Atlanta market, strong Georgia talent base) and Miami (their academics are improving) and getting into Florida would be huge for the B10. Miami's attendance in the ACC has been average at best but imagine how well they would draw playing in a division with Ohio State, Michigan & Penn State. Lots of B10 alums in FLorida also. Those 2 programs would be more attractive than either Kansas, Oklahome or UConn.
I see your logic on Kansas and UConn. But Oklahoma is a true powerhouse in football and a true bridge to Texas talent.
Exactly. Norman is closer to DFW than Austin is. OU has huge pull in northern Texas down to DFW. Plus, if you land OU it is a big chip to play in landing the great, white whale - Texas. See the info below for UT's estimated value.
Kansas (and UConn would be as well) is a national TV add for BB, though KU has better markets than NU has (3M vs 2M pop and KC/Wichita vs Omaha), though NU had the huge national FB brand going for it. They are an add for BB content. Match-ups to draw more eyes to B1G BB contests nationally and on the B1GN. I like this chart from
Frank the Tanks blog back before NU was added. It has been highly accurate about who the B1G has added thus far. It shows KU has more value than you think, though there are schools who were not evaluated that would be higher (such as UVA, OU, and UNC).
CANDIDATES TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
Texas $101,369,004
Rutgers WITH NYC $67,798,609
Nebraska $54,487,990
Maryland $50,818,889
Boston College $48,382,692
Notre Dame $47,629,255
Kansas $46,320,092
Missouri $45,901,459
Syracuse $43,504,813
Connecticut $38,080,271
Pittsburgh $34,365,175
Iowa State $31,831,077
Syracuse WITH NYC $65,874,573
(07-26-2014 07:20 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: (07-26-2014 04:13 AM)Policiious Wrote: No on Kansas, UConn or Oklahoma; not enough TV sets or in areas of strong football or hoops recruiting. Georgia Tech (Atlanta market, strong Georgia talent base) and Miami (their academics are improving) and getting into Florida would be huge for the B10. Miami's attendance in the ACC has been average at best but imagine how well they would draw playing in a division with Ohio State, Michigan & Penn State. Lots of B10 alums in FLorida also. Those 2 programs would be more attractive than either Kansas, Oklahome or UConn.
Georgia Tech wouldn't improve recruiting if it was in the Big Ten UNLESS it went along with a large contingent of southern schools to the Big Ten.
That is why I only ever hypothesized about a 20 team Big Ten when it came to anything other than Maryland joining the Big Ten from the ACC.
If Georgia Tech tried that alone, they would be seen more as traitors in the South. If anything that move would harm Georgia Tech recruiting more than it would help any northern recruiting in the South. GT would be foolish to make that move unless they were following previous moves of other ACC schools and North Carolina already made it clear they are not interested in either the Big Ten or the SEC.
Spot on. This is also the reason FSU, plus Clemson or GT, to the B12 talk back a few years back was a no go from the beginning. There was no way they wanted to be on a 2 school island far from the heart of the conference like the B12 wanted (12 schools). You need 4-6 southern ACC schools to make it worthwhile for them to make that move so they can keep their recruiting and SE ties strong. GT is a very distant second in Georgia to UGA and Clemson and the AL schools, and the other SEC/ACC schools all dip into it quite a bit for athletes. GT alone in the B1G does little to nothing for the other B1G schools recruiting there. The B1G will have to go really big (18-20) to land GT, IMO.
I think the B1G presidents would really have a hard time with Miami and their poor reputation for doing things the right way in athletics. They really don't fit the B1G mold, but they would get you into south FL recruiting and are a good academic school. They have been on a island before in the BE so they would be the most likely to accept being on an island.
Texas is the same as GT I think. To have a shot at Texas you will need to offer Kansas and Oklahoma. Then add one more Texas school (TTU preferred, but maybe Rice would work due to academics). I think Texas would only consider the B1G seriously with 3 or more B12 or TX schools included.