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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
(09-29-2013 10:09 AM)DrBox Wrote: That halfback pass was a tough play for UCF. That across the field throw is a hard throw for a QB to make, much less a running back.
That wasn't a halfback pass. It was our former QB turned WR. He was our QB in 2010 when we beat Georgia. He should be capable of making that throw.
But there is also a reason he isn't the QB anymore. We should have never run that play.
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
(09-29-2013 10:01 AM)MHSCard Wrote: (09-29-2013 09:43 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: Ok I'll answer your question here are Louisville OCC record from the past five years
Wins vs wining teams
UNC 8-4, USM 7-6 and UF 11-2
Losses vs winning teams
FIU 8-5, Marshall 7-6, Kentucky 7-6, Utah 10-3, Kentucky 7-6, NCState 8-5
Wins vs losing teams
Kentucky 2-10, FIU 3-9, USM 0-12, Kentucky 5-7, Arkansas State 4-8, Memphis 1-11, Arkansas State 4-8, Kansas State 5-7, Memphis 6-7, Middle Tennessee 5-7
Losses vs losing teams
Oregon State 5-7
So other than the Sugar a Bowl win in the past FIVE years Louisville has not done anything OCC to brag about and to point fingers at others.
That's the truth wether you want to admit it or not.
No you are cherry picking the Kragthorpe and Strong's first rebuilding years into the stats you want. Try doing it since we entered the Big East and a whole new story opens up in front of you, but that is not what you want is it.. We have never done damage to the conference like USF and UConn and Temple are doing. You know it.
Really well let's see if we add the years since joining Big East you can add the following to the above list
Wins vs winning teams
Kentucky 8-5, Miami 7-6, Kansas State 7-6, Middle Tenn 7-6, Wake Forest 11-3
Loses vs winning teams
Virginia Tech 11-2, Kentucky 8-5, Utah 9-4
Wins vs losing teams
Kentucky 3-8, Oregon State 5-6, FAU 2-9, UNC 5-6, Temple 1-11, Middle antenna 5-7, NCState 5-7
So let me know about all those great OCC wins that UL has had because the facts are that since joining the Big East only TWICE have they beaten a team with more than 8 wins in a year.
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
Cuban Bull just crapped on Lville...
Ever since the Gator win...it's like...They turned to Mr. Hyde.
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
(09-29-2013 04:26 PM)Cubanbull Wrote: (09-29-2013 10:01 AM)MHSCard Wrote: (09-29-2013 09:43 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: Ok I'll answer your question here are Louisville OCC record from the past five years
Wins vs wining teams
UNC 8-4, USM 7-6 and UF 11-2
Losses vs winning teams
FIU 8-5, Marshall 7-6, Kentucky 7-6, Utah 10-3, Kentucky 7-6, NCState 8-5
Wins vs losing teams
Kentucky 2-10, FIU 3-9, USM 0-12, Kentucky 5-7, Arkansas State 4-8, Memphis 1-11, Arkansas State 4-8, Kansas State 5-7, Memphis 6-7, Middle Tennessee 5-7
Losses vs losing teams
Oregon State 5-7
So other than the Sugar a Bowl win in the past FIVE years Louisville has not done anything OCC to brag about and to point fingers at others.
That's the truth wether you want to admit it or not.
No you are cherry picking the Kragthorpe and Strong's first rebuilding years into the stats you want. Try doing it since we entered the Big East and a whole new story opens up in front of you, but that is not what you want is it.. We have never done damage to the conference like USF and UConn and Temple are doing. You know it.
Really well let's see if we add the years since joining Big East you can add the following to the above list
Wins vs winning teams
Kentucky 8-5, Miami 7-6, Kansas State 7-6, Middle Tenn 7-6, Wake Forest 11-3
Loses vs winning teams
Virginia Tech 11-2, Kentucky 8-5, Utah 9-4
Wins vs losing teams
Kentucky 3-8, Oregon State 5-6, FAU 2-9, UNC 5-6, Temple 1-11, Middle antenna 5-7, NCState 5-7
So let me know about all those great OCC wins that UL has had because the facts are that since joining the Big East only TWICE have they beaten a team with more than 8 wins in a year.
wow looks like facts don't back up card fan. Please respond with an apology card fan, because your rants in this thread are clearly not warranted.
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
(09-29-2013 04:26 PM)Cubanbull Wrote: (09-29-2013 10:01 AM)MHSCard Wrote: (09-29-2013 09:43 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: Ok I'll answer your question here are Louisville OCC record from the past five years
Wins vs wining teams
UNC 8-4, USM 7-6 and UF 11-2
Losses vs winning teams
FIU 8-5, Marshall 7-6, Kentucky 7-6, Utah 10-3, Kentucky 7-6, NCState 8-5
Wins vs losing teams
Kentucky 2-10, FIU 3-9, USM 0-12, Kentucky 5-7, Arkansas State 4-8, Memphis 1-11, Arkansas State 4-8, Kansas State 5-7, Memphis 6-7, Middle Tennessee 5-7
Losses vs losing teams
Oregon State 5-7
So other than the Sugar a Bowl win in the past FIVE years Louisville has not done anything OCC to brag about and to point fingers at others.
That's the truth wether you want to admit it or not.
No you are cherry picking the Kragthorpe and Strong's first rebuilding years into the stats you want. Try doing it since we entered the Big East and a whole new story opens up in front of you, but that is not what you want is it.. We have never done damage to the conference like USF and UConn and Temple are doing. You know it.
Really well let's see if we add the years since joining Big East you can add the following to the above list
Wins vs winning teams
Kentucky 8-5, Miami 7-6, Kansas State 7-6, Middle Tenn 7-6, Wake Forest 11-3
Loses vs winning teams
Virginia Tech 11-2, Kentucky 8-5, Utah 9-4
Wins vs losing teams
Kentucky 3-8, Oregon State 5-6, FAU 2-9, UNC 5-6, Temple 1-11, Middle Tenn 5-7, NCState 5-7
So let me know about all those great OCC wins that UL has had because the facts are that since joining the Big East only TWICE have they beaten a team with more than 8 wins in a year.
Excellent post, filled with key facts.
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
(09-29-2013 08:33 AM)MHSCard Wrote: See if UCF had beaten USCe then beat Louisville that would have garnered a TON of respect for UCF and the AAC moving forward, they would likely go to a BCS bowl and gotten to showcase the AAC in a huge game.
Very true…. That game was not only a big loss for UCF but for the American as well. UCF had the Game (cocks) handed to it on a “silver platter” when SC’s starting QB was knocked out of the game. Unfortunately, UCF literally handed the game back to a very respectable SEC opponent on a “golden platter” with multiple picks. UCF’s QB didn’t look like the same person that picked apart PSU. The coaching didn’t help either in my opinion. UCF was out coached the second half (SC played more physical) and that trick/pick play epitomized being out coached. With all that occurred, UCF still played ok. However, playing ok is not acceptable when you should have won a nationally televised game against a very respectable SEC opponent. UCF had more speed than the much physical SC, but didn’t maximize this advantage by running an up-tempo offense the entire game. Despite the loss, I was still proud that UCF played a respectable game….
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
Wow you must really be interested in the Ville to go back and look at every team's record we played against. Thanks for the support. BTW our win against Florida is better than anything USF has ever done and will ever do. Looks to me from your attendance this season Bulls fans are off the bus.
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
(09-29-2013 05:35 PM)L1C4 Wrote: Wow you must really be interested in the Ville to go back and look at every team's record we played against. Thanks for the support. BTW our win against Florida is better than anything USF has ever done and will ever do. Looks to me from your attendance this season Bulls fans are off the bus.
Before you go attacking me you might want to read the ENTIRE thread. No one was attacking UL until one of your fans decided to act all mighty and attack others. This is why I quoted those results because one of your fans has this idea that UL has been a monster at slaying big time OCC opponents since coming in.
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
We along with WVU have done our part since joining the Big East. Too bad no one else has stepped up to the plate.
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09-29-2013 05:41 PM |
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
(09-29-2013 05:41 PM)L1C4 Wrote: We along with WVU have done our part since joining the Big East. Too bad no one else has stepped up to the plate.
The thread was about OCC wins and the facts are that UL since joining the Big East it has TWO wins OCC vs teams with more than 8 wins, the same number as USF.
I have no love for UCF but I call them as I see them and a UL fan blaming them for the lost yesterday while thumping their chest on UL's OCC history was out of bounds and that's what I posted those numbers.
UL has done very well in athletics and all their fans should be proud of their accomplishments but that doesn't mean they can make crap up.
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09-29-2013 05:45 PM |
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
(09-29-2013 05:45 PM)Cubanbull Wrote: (09-29-2013 05:41 PM)L1C4 Wrote: We along with WVU have done our part since joining the Big East. Too bad no one else has stepped up to the plate.
The thread was about OCC wins and the facts are that UL since joining the Big East it has TWO wins OCC vs teams with more than 8 wins, the same number as USF.
I have no love for UCF but I call them as I see them and a UL fan blaming them for the lost yesterday while thumping their chest on UL's OCC history was out of bounds and that's what I posted those numbers.
UL has done very well in athletics and all their fans should be proud of their accomplishments but that doesn't mean they can make crap up.
It's not made up. It's "selective memory". They feel they've graduated with one win over Florida. We'll see in 3 weeks.
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09-29-2013 05:48 PM |
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
Funny I see those stats you are using as better than ANYTHING USF has ever done which is my point, you may say they are weak but the FACT is we beat Miami, UNC, Oregon State, Kentucky, Florida, KState, and Wake (when they won the ACC) and we won two BCS Bowls in the process, and those brought points for the AQ system that we had to have, remember the only teams to win BCS bowl games from the Big East since 2005 are WVU and Louisville. Cincy lost two, UConn lost one, and Pitt lost one. USF never went to a BCS bowl. So if you think you won the internet stat fight and it makes you feel good, good for you!! But Louisville is heads and tails above USF in every metric and while a case can be made for Cincy or Rutgers in football being as or more dominate, the rest of the league has no possible claim. And to the Rutgers and Cincy guys I bet they would trade our BCS bowl record and win loss record with their better win loss record and no bcs bowl wins.
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09-29-2013 05:49 PM |
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
Really about time to lock this thread. Degraded into the usual hate fest and dick measuring contest.
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09-29-2013 05:52 PM |
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
(09-29-2013 05:49 PM)MHSCard Wrote: Funny I see those stats you are using as better than ANYTHING USF has ever done which is my point, you may say they are weak but the FACT is we beat Miami, UNC, Oregon State, Kentucky, Florida, KState, and Wake (when they won the ACC) and we won two BCS Bowls in the process, and those brought points for the AQ system that we had to have, remember the only teams to win BCS bowl games from the Big East since 2005 are WVU and Louisville. Cincy lost two, UConn lost one, and Pitt lost one. USF never went to a BCS bowl. So if you think you won the internet stat fight and it makes you feel good, good for you!! But Louisville is heads and tails above USF in every metric and while a case can be made for Cincy or Rutgers in football being as or more dominate, the rest of the league has no possible claim. And to the Rutgers and Cincy guys I bet they would trade our BCS bowl record and win loss record with their better win loss record and no bcs bowl wins.
Calm down. You seem to be intent on comparing USF to UL. You brought that up not me. Doesn't change the facts that only two of those teams had won more than 8 games. So giant killers in OCC you are not.
And this my friend was about OCC wins vs Big Teams. Not about all the other crap you are now adding.
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09-29-2013 05:52 PM |
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
(09-29-2013 05:52 PM)Cubanbull Wrote: (09-29-2013 05:49 PM)MHSCard Wrote: Funny I see those stats you are using as better than ANYTHING USF has ever done which is my point, you may say they are weak but the FACT is we beat Miami, UNC, Oregon State, Kentucky, Florida, KState, and Wake (when they won the ACC) and we won two BCS Bowls in the process, and those brought points for the AQ system that we had to have, remember the only teams to win BCS bowl games from the Big East since 2005 are WVU and Louisville. Cincy lost two, UConn lost one, and Pitt lost one. USF never went to a BCS bowl. So if you think you won the internet stat fight and it makes you feel good, good for you!! But Louisville is heads and tails above USF in every metric and while a case can be made for Cincy or Rutgers in football being as or more dominate, the rest of the league has no possible claim. And to the Rutgers and Cincy guys I bet they would trade our BCS bowl record and win loss record with their better win loss record and no bcs bowl wins.
Calm down. You seem to be intent on comparing USF to UL.
The good thing is that we can all tune in on Oct 18 and watch the comparison….
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09-29-2013 05:57 PM |
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
(09-29-2013 05:57 PM)Underdog Wrote: (09-29-2013 05:52 PM)Cubanbull Wrote: (09-29-2013 05:49 PM)MHSCard Wrote: Funny I see those stats you are using as better than ANYTHING USF has ever done which is my point, you may say they are weak but the FACT is we beat Miami, UNC, Oregon State, Kentucky, Florida, KState, and Wake (when they won the ACC) and we won two BCS Bowls in the process, and those brought points for the AQ system that we had to have, remember the only teams to win BCS bowl games from the Big East since 2005 are WVU and Louisville. Cincy lost two, UConn lost one, and Pitt lost one. USF never went to a BCS bowl. So if you think you won the internet stat fight and it makes you feel good, good for you!! But Louisville is heads and tails above USF in every metric and while a case can be made for Cincy or Rutgers in football being as or more dominate, the rest of the league has no possible claim. And to the Rutgers and Cincy guys I bet they would trade our BCS bowl record and win loss record with their better win loss record and no bcs bowl wins.
Calm down. You seem to be intent on comparing USF to UL.
The good thing is that we can all tune in on Oct 18 and watch the comparison….
And why is that? No one except the UL fan brought that comparison. There is no one here arguing that USF has had more success than UL
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09-29-2013 06:02 PM |
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
I an calm but thanks for your concern. As to your point, we have beaten teams that no other teams have that is my point whether you deem them worthy or not by you rubric, the media and pollsters seem to that is how we are ranked in the top ten even though the next best team, "the ones that played a great schedule" only have 6 voted compared to 1100+ for us. 'You and UCF fans are on the same side of this.. Doesn't that give you pause lol.
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09-29-2013 06:05 PM |
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
(09-29-2013 06:05 PM)MHSCard Wrote: I an calm but thanks for your concern. As to your point, we have beaten teams that no other teams have that is my point whether you deem them worthy or not by you rubric, the media and pollsters seem to that is how we are ranked in the top ten even though the next best team, "the ones that played a great schedule" only have 6 voted compared to 1100+ for us. 'You and UCF fans are on the same side of this.. Doesn't that give you pause lol.
We are on the same side. Because your thread was pointless because you seem to ignore that UL beating a team of SC caliber is not a common thing.
And once again you are bringing your ranking, USF comparisons etc that have NOTHING to do with beating a quality OCC opponent and is not just names but how good are those names on those seasons.
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09-29-2013 06:08 PM |
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
(09-29-2013 06:02 PM)Cubanbull Wrote: (09-29-2013 05:57 PM)Underdog Wrote: (09-29-2013 05:52 PM)Cubanbull Wrote: (09-29-2013 05:49 PM)MHSCard Wrote: Funny I see those stats you are using as better than ANYTHING USF has ever done which is my point, you may say they are weak but the FACT is we beat Miami, UNC, Oregon State, Kentucky, Florida, KState, and Wake (when they won the ACC) and we won two BCS Bowls in the process, and those brought points for the AQ system that we had to have, remember the only teams to win BCS bowl games from the Big East since 2005 are WVU and Louisville. Cincy lost two, UConn lost one, and Pitt lost one. USF never went to a BCS bowl. So if you think you won the internet stat fight and it makes you feel good, good for you!! But Louisville is heads and tails above USF in every metric and while a case can be made for Cincy or Rutgers in football being as or more dominate, the rest of the league has no possible claim. And to the Rutgers and Cincy guys I bet they would trade our BCS bowl record and win loss record with their better win loss record and no bcs bowl wins.
Calm down. You seem to be intent on comparing USF to UL.
The good thing is that we can all tune in on Oct 18 and watch the comparison….
And why is that? No one except the UL fan brought that comparison. There is no one here arguing that USF has had more success than UL
With all the smack talking by "you should be thanking God that Maryland was plucked by the B10" fan, it would be wounderful to see UCF put the smackdown on UL as it drifts away to the shores of the ACC. Moreover, I don't hate UL and respect its accomplishments, but I don't want it to become the first American champ, play in another BCS bowl, and then jump into its lifeboat while waving goodbye....
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09-29-2013 06:10 PM |
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RE: UCF losing to South Carolina
(09-29-2013 08:47 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: (09-29-2013 08:37 AM)MHSCard Wrote: (09-29-2013 08:23 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: What? Because outside beating Florida in the Sugar Bowl the Cards under Strong have beaten no one close to the caliber of South Carolina.
We beat you a lot though.
Oh and by the way we are 5-5 vs you guys so that then means we beaten you a lot also.
Plus I would put USF's OOC victories against ANYONE in the old/former/new AAC. At worst the games USF has won against big OOC are comparable against other teams in the conference.
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