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The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF football - Milwaukee - 05-10-2022 05:47 PM
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With the AAC slated to add 6 CUSA FB programs in 2023, what are you as an ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, and/or USF football fan expecting over the next 5 seasons?
Trends (#wins/season) over the past 4 seasons:
.................2017......2018......2019......2020......2021....recent trend:
ECU..............3............3............4..........3...........7............up
Memphis......10............8..........12..........8...........6............flat
Navy.............7............3...........11.........3...........4............down
SMU..............7............5..........10..........7...........8............flat
Temple..........7............8............8..........1...........3............down
Tulane...........5............7............7..........6...........2............down
Tulsa.............2............3............4..........6...........7............up
USF..............10...........7............4..........1...........2............down
Q: What would you predict for the team(s) you're rooting for, and why?
What general trend would you predict for each team in the conference over the next five years?
ECU............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Memphis.....up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Navy...........up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
SMU............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Temple........up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Tulane..........up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Tulsa............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
USF..............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
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Here are my predictions:
ECU: Up - will average ~5-7 wins/year (multiple bowl games)
Memphis: Up - will become an elite FB program & will join Big 12.
Navy: Unclear, but would expect some improvement.
SMU: Up - will be one of the AAC's top 2-3 programs; may join Big 12.
Tulane: Unclear, but would expect some improvement.
Temple: Steady improvement - will play in 2-3 bowl games in next 5 years.
Tulsa: Continued improvement - will play in multiple bowl games.
USF: Unclear, but would expect some improvement.
Explanation:
* Most, if not all should win 1 or 2 more games per year as of 2023, since they will be playing CUSA6 teams rather than UC, UCF, or UH.
* Memphis & SMU have the Big 12 in their sights and will make a big push for that.
* ECU and Tulsa seem to have gotten their football programs back on track.
* Temple has rebooted with a promising new coaching staff with P5 experience.
* Need to learn more about developments at Navy & USF.
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RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF football - Cubanbull1 - 05-10-2022 05:57 PM
USF- up, everything is in place for 2023 being a big year, 2022 could be a bowl season only question is how we come out of OOC schedule. But the talent and depth that is there compared to 2020 is night and day. USF will be among top AAC teams as early as 2023
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - SMUstang - 05-10-2022 06:29 PM
(05-10-2022 05:47 PM)Milwaukee Wrote: .
With the AAC slated to add 6 CUSA FB programs in 2023, what are you as an ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, and/or USF football fan expecting over the next 5 seasons?
Trends (#wins/season) over the past 4 seasons:
.................2017......2018......2019......2020......2021....recent trend:
ECU..............3............3............4..........3...........7............up
Memphis......10............8..........12..........8...........6............flat
Navy.............7............3...........11.........3...........4............down
SMU..............7............5..........10..........7...........8............flat
Temple..........7............8............8..........1...........3............down
Tulane...........5............7............7..........6...........2............down
Tulsa.............2............3............4..........6...........7............up
USF..............10...........7............4..........1...........2............down
Q: What would you predict for the team(s) you're rooting for, and why?
What general trend would you predict for each team in the conference over the next five years?
ECU............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Memphis.....up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Navy...........up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
SMU............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Temple........up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Tulane..........up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Tulsa............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
USF..............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
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Here are my predictions:
ECU: Up - will average ~5-7 wins/year (multiple bowl games)
Memphis: Up - will become an elite FB program & will join Big 12.
Navy: Unclear, but would expect some improvement.
SMU: Up - will be one of the AAC's top 2-3 programs; may join Big 12.
Tulane: Unclear, but would expect some improvement.
Temple: Steady improvement - will play in 2-3 bowl games in next 5 years.
Tulsa: Continued improvement - will play in multiple bowl games.
USF: Unclear, but would expect some improvement.
Explanation:
* Most, if not all should win 1 or 2 more games per year as of 2023, since they will be playing CUSA6 teams rather than UC, UCF, or UH.
* Memphis & SMU have the Big 12 in their sights and will make a big push for that.
* ECU and Tulsa seem to have gotten their football programs back on track.
* Temple has rebooted with a promising new coaching staff with P5 experience.
* Need to learn more about developments at Navy & USF.
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I agree, but some of those CUSA6 teams will not be pushovers. We just barely got by La Tech last year. And UTSA beat Memphis.
The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF football - Pony94 - 05-10-2022 07:13 PM
We don’t need another thread like this when there are multiple others. We know you need attention but please follow the rules.
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - Milwaukee - 05-10-2022 07:53 PM
(05-10-2022 07:13 PM)Pony94 Wrote: We don’t need another thread like this when there are multiple others...
The reason I posted this thread is that none of the previous or existing threads has invited the readers to go through the 8 AAC remainers - in particular - and compare them side by side, systematically.
There are lots of threads in which readers have spoken about the future of the AAC after the CUSA6 join the conference, but none that ask them specifically about how the 8 remaining AAC schools will do in football over the next five years.
I'm trying to get a better idea of how AAC fans envision the future prospects of each of the 8 remaining AAC football programs, and the only way of getting a better idea is to ask the fans of each team to predict how they think their programs will do.
Already, one of the two responses has provided some relevant, interesting information that hasn't been available from any of the other threads.
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - B easy - 05-10-2022 09:59 PM
If ECU keeps Mike Houston it can dominate this conference. The problem is he will likely leave if he wins an AAC title.
The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF football - Pony94 - 05-10-2022 10:03 PM
(05-10-2022 09:59 PM)B easy Wrote: If ECU keeps Mike Houston it can dominate this conference. The problem is he will likely leave if he wins an AAC title.
Problem is you are spending zero on NiL.
You are right though, if he can win at that massive disadvantage he deserves it.
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - JHG722 - 05-11-2022 12:10 AM
(05-10-2022 07:13 PM)Pony94 Wrote: We don’t need another thread like this when there are multiple others. We know you need attention but please follow the rules.
Maybe you'll ban him eventually for having multiple user names on here.
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - fishman6581 - 05-11-2022 07:45 AM
(05-10-2022 07:13 PM)Pony94 Wrote: We don’t need another thread like this when there are multiple others. We know you need attention but please follow the rules.
The keyboard warriors over here are hilarious.
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF football - Saint3333 - 05-11-2022 08:30 AM
If the metric is number of wins shouldn't all of them trend upward as three of the top teams exit and you'll replace 2-3 games vs. CUSA programs?
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - b2b - 05-11-2022 08:33 AM
(05-10-2022 10:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:(05-10-2022 09:59 PM)B easy Wrote: If ECU keeps Mike Houston it can dominate this conference. The problem is he will likely leave if he wins an AAC title.
Problem is you are spending zero on NiL.
You are right though, if he can win at that massive disadvantage he deserves it.
Unfortunately ECU can't afford to. We simply don't have the type of alumni base needed to do it at the level for it to make an impact. I don't like it but that's just our reality. I'd also add that 90% of the G5 is in the same boat as us. If they weren't they'd already have much larger athletic budgets.
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - CoastalJuan - 05-11-2022 10:07 AM
(05-11-2022 08:33 AM)b2b Wrote:(05-10-2022 10:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:(05-10-2022 09:59 PM)B easy Wrote: If ECU keeps Mike Houston it can dominate this conference. The problem is he will likely leave if he wins an AAC title.
Problem is you are spending zero on NiL.
You are right though, if he can win at that massive disadvantage he deserves it.
Unfortunately ECU can't afford to. We simply don't have the type of alumni base needed to do it at the level for it to make an impact. I don't like it but that's just our reality. I'd also add that 90% of the G5 is in the same boat as us. If they weren't they'd already have much larger athletic budgets.
Are we not spending on NIL deals? I thought we had multiple players with contracts.
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - KnightLight - 05-11-2022 10:12 AM
I predict that some teams will be up, some teams will be flat and some other teams will be down.
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - BraveKnight - 05-11-2022 10:50 AM
(05-11-2022 12:10 AM)JHG722 Wrote:Yeah especially after he got banned on multiple… I mean it couldn’t be any more clear it’s Jed.(05-10-2022 07:13 PM)Pony94 Wrote: We don’t need another thread like this when there are multiple others. We know you need attention but please follow the rules.
Maybe you'll ban him eventually for having multiple user names on here.
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - b2b - 05-11-2022 11:03 AM
(05-11-2022 10:07 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:(05-11-2022 08:33 AM)b2b Wrote:(05-10-2022 10:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:(05-10-2022 09:59 PM)B easy Wrote: If ECU keeps Mike Houston it can dominate this conference. The problem is he will likely leave if he wins an AAC title.
Problem is you are spending zero on NiL.
You are right though, if he can win at that massive disadvantage he deserves it.
Unfortunately ECU can't afford to. We simply don't have the type of alumni base needed to do it at the level for it to make an impact. I don't like it but that's just our reality. I'd also add that 90% of the G5 is in the same boat as us. If they weren't they'd already have much larger athletic budgets.
Are we not spending on NIL deals? I thought we had multiple players with contracts.
Man, if we do it's peanuts compared to what other schools are spending. I think Holton Ahler's has some t-shirt brand that nobody's buying. Besides that I've seen nothing to indicate it's happening. You'd see them in some ads or something, right? G5's by and large just don't have the big money donors nor the fanbases to make it realistic. In other words for a booster to take that risk there's got to be some kind of benefit to them. If a team doesn't have any fans who are they really advertising to?
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - b2b - 05-11-2022 11:06 AM
(05-11-2022 10:50 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:(05-11-2022 12:10 AM)JHG722 Wrote:Yeah especially after he got banned on multiple… I mean it couldn’t be any more clear it’s Jed.(05-10-2022 07:13 PM)Pony94 Wrote: We don’t need another thread like this when there are multiple others. We know you need attention but please follow the rules.
Maybe you'll ban him eventually for having multiple user names on here.
Dude's a complete spazz.
(10-19-2021 04:08 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:(10-19-2021 09:26 AM)Chappy Wrote: Which of these matchups will be the best new rivalry game?
NONE.
I have no interest in this conference, and am trying to persuade my AAC school's administration to pull out of the conference as soon as possible.
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - CLTPirate - 05-11-2022 11:17 AM
(05-11-2022 10:07 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:(05-11-2022 08:33 AM)b2b Wrote:(05-10-2022 10:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:(05-10-2022 09:59 PM)B easy Wrote: If ECU keeps Mike Houston it can dominate this conference. The problem is he will likely leave if he wins an AAC title.
Problem is you are spending zero on NiL.
You are right though, if he can win at that massive disadvantage he deserves it.
Unfortunately ECU can't afford to. We simply don't have the type of alumni base needed to do it at the level for it to make an impact. I don't like it but that's just our reality. I'd also add that 90% of the G5 is in the same boat as us. If they weren't they'd already have much larger athletic budgets.
Are we not spending on NIL deals? I thought we had multiple players with contracts.
Yes we have players with NIL deals outside of Holton, the reason Mason Garcia is still here is because someone paid up and he’s a backup player.
ECU is one of 5 schools in the AAC to have an NIL collective
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - Attackcoog - 05-11-2022 12:03 PM
(05-10-2022 06:29 PM)SMUstang Wrote:(05-10-2022 05:47 PM)Milwaukee Wrote: .
With the AAC slated to add 6 CUSA FB programs in 2023, what are you as an ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, and/or USF football fan expecting over the next 5 seasons?
Trends (#wins/season) over the past 4 seasons:
.................2017......2018......2019......2020......2021....recent trend:
ECU..............3............3............4..........3...........7............up
Memphis......10............8..........12..........8...........6............flat
Navy.............7............3...........11.........3...........4............down
SMU..............7............5..........10..........7...........8............flat
Temple..........7............8............8..........1...........3............down
Tulane...........5............7............7..........6...........2............down
Tulsa.............2............3............4..........6...........7............up
USF..............10...........7............4..........1...........2............down
Q: What would you predict for the team(s) you're rooting for, and why?
What general trend would you predict for each team in the conference over the next five years?
ECU............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Memphis.....up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Navy...........up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
SMU............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Temple........up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Tulane..........up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Tulsa............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
USF..............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
.
Here are my predictions:
ECU: Up - will average ~5-7 wins/year (multiple bowl games)
Memphis: Up - will become an elite FB program & will join Big 12.
Navy: Unclear, but would expect some improvement.
SMU: Up - will be one of the AAC's top 2-3 programs; may join Big 12.
Tulane: Unclear, but would expect some improvement.
Temple: Steady improvement - will play in 2-3 bowl games in next 5 years.
Tulsa: Continued improvement - will play in multiple bowl games.
USF: Unclear, but would expect some improvement.
Explanation:
* Most, if not all should win 1 or 2 more games per year as of 2023, since they will be playing CUSA6 teams rather than UC, UCF, or UH.
* Memphis & SMU have the Big 12 in their sights and will make a big push for that.
* ECU and Tulsa seem to have gotten their football programs back on track.
* Temple has rebooted with a promising new coaching staff with P5 experience.
* Need to learn more about developments at Navy & USF.
.
I agree, but some of those CUSA6 teams will not be pushovers. We just barely got by La Tech last year. And UTSA beat Memphis.
We didnt add LaTech. Other than UAB, the AAC really didnt add anyone that should really give the legacy AAC teams much to immediately worry about. For the additions---its all about potential and what they do with this opportunity. When CUSA expanded after the Big East/AAC raids----the legacy left behind teams flourished---Marshall, UAB---heck---even Rice won a championship. S Miss fell off and then rebounded. The only legacy team that failed to have any success within the first 4 or 5 years was UTEP. And, now nearly a decade after the 2011 realignment----UTEP has become the last legacy team to enjoy post-realignment success and is finally trending upward. The new line up should be a positive for the legacy team records overall---especially for those that have had reasonably consistent success in the original AAC and 2011 version of CUSA. So, Id expect Memphis, SMU, Temple, and ECU to all do fairly well. USF should at least do better than they have in the previous version of the AAC.
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - b2b - 05-11-2022 12:13 PM
(05-11-2022 11:17 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:(05-11-2022 10:07 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:(05-11-2022 08:33 AM)b2b Wrote:(05-10-2022 10:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:(05-10-2022 09:59 PM)B easy Wrote: If ECU keeps Mike Houston it can dominate this conference. The problem is he will likely leave if he wins an AAC title.
Problem is you are spending zero on NiL.
You are right though, if he can win at that massive disadvantage he deserves it.
Unfortunately ECU can't afford to. We simply don't have the type of alumni base needed to do it at the level for it to make an impact. I don't like it but that's just our reality. I'd also add that 90% of the G5 is in the same boat as us. If they weren't they'd already have much larger athletic budgets.
Are we not spending on NIL deals? I thought we had multiple players with contracts.
Yes we have players with NIL deals outside of Holton, the reason Mason Garcia is still here is because someone paid up and he’s a backup player.
ECU is one of 5 schools in the AAC to have an NIL collective
So what product are they pushing? I've seen zilch and Holton is asking for money so he can attend the Manning QB Camp.
RE: The next 5 years of ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, & USF foot... - liquidpirate - 05-11-2022 01:04 PM
I don't understand why ECU just don't go to Vince and Linda McMahon and ask for money and go hey we will name a indoor practice facility after you all. Vince would go for having a building on campus with his name on it in a minute, he donated $500,000 for a fellowship grant go for more. Honor him at halftime the whole red carpet treatment and get this NIL money. Problem with ECU is they make more excuses on why they can't do something instead of thinking outside the box and getting it done.