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Let's Play a Game of What If - gdunn - 03-02-2018 07:28 AM
So yesterday I kept seeing this on any tv running news:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-asking-what-trump-knew-about-hacked-emails-n851941
Basically Mueller is asking everyone if Trump knew about the hacked emails that WikiLeaks released, if he was involved with knowing when they'd be released. Which I still find interesting because nobody at the DOJ/FBI has still investigated the server, they're still relying on a third party report by a company that donated money to the DNC. I feel that if this is the direction that Mueller is going that he'll be requesting the server to be inspected by his people. I could be wrong. Have been wrong before.
Then this little Op/Ed was dropped last night. I'm not big on conspiracy, and have always thought it was, and again this is an opinion piece:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-asking-what-trump-knew-about-hacked-emails-n851941
So basically this is saying Seth Rich gave Wikileaks the emails. No hack.
What if that is truly the case?
Where would Mueller's investigation go next?
My thoughts are this, he's not finding anything relating to DJT being in bed with the Russians, now he's going after the hack and if that's found to be something a staffer gave out, I think that puts the investigation on ice.
So what if Seth Rich leaked the emails?
RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - TechRocks - 03-02-2018 07:32 AM
Finding out that Seth Rich gave the emails to Wikileaks would be the ultimate shyte sammich served in this entire fiasco and I would LMFAO at the dims.
RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - Machiavelli - 03-02-2018 07:45 AM
So that Trump Tower meeting never happened?????
Just going to sweep that one right under the rug???
I can guarantee you Mueller isn’t. If he was debried on the meeting crafted a lie about it on Air Force One. Had the Ukraine plank removed. He’s toast. Done. Conspiracy
RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - Machiavelli - 03-02-2018 07:45 AM
Now impeach no. The GOP wouldn’t know how to act in the best interest of our country.
RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - Jugnaut - 03-02-2018 07:52 AM
(03-02-2018 07:45 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: So that Trump Tower meeting never happened?????
Just going to sweep that one right under the rug???
I can guarantee you Mueller isn’t. If he was debried on the meeting crafted a lie about it on Air Force One. Had the Ukraine plank removed. He’s toast. Done. Conspiracy
The Trump Tower meeting seems like an entrapment type ploy by Fusion GPS. The Russian lawyer was connected to Fusion GPS. Plus there's nothing illegal about it. It's just shady for both sides.
RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - TechRocks - 03-02-2018 07:53 AM
Should we buckle up now? Someone here once said that.
RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - gdunn - 03-02-2018 12:32 PM
If Machy was so hell-bent on fairness he'd be screaming for Mueller's team to inspect the DNC server. To me, I'm not a real tech guy, would be able to prove if the "Russian malware" did in fact download data and send it elsewhere and to see where that signature is.
Maybe I'm too hopeful.
RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - Kaplony - 03-02-2018 12:36 PM
(03-02-2018 12:32 PM)gdunn Wrote: If Machy was so hell-bent on fairness he'd be screaming for Mueller's team to inspect the DNC server. To me, I'm not a real tech guy, would be able to prove if the "Russian malware" did in fact download data and send it elsewhere and to see where that signature is.
Maybe I'm too hopeful.
At this point the server's value as evidence is null since it has been tampered with by an outside source with potential biases against the subject they are trying to obtain evidence against.
RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - Machiavelli - 03-02-2018 01:14 PM
Another untruth.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jul/11/donald-trump/did-john-podesta-deny-cia-and-fbi-access-dnc-serve/
Podesta did not deny.
RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - 200yrs2late - 03-02-2018 01:52 PM
(03-02-2018 01:14 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: Another untruth.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jul/11/donald-trump/did-john-podesta-deny-cia-and-fbi-access-dnc-serve/
Podesta did not deny.
Trump might have mispoken, he might not have. Who knows what angle he is working sometimes.
Podesta did run HRC's campaign, which was essentially funding the DNC. Usually the one controlling the money controls the access. just sayin.
Let's Play a Game of What If - JMUDunk - 03-02-2018 02:06 PM
(03-02-2018 07:52 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:(03-02-2018 07:45 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: So that Trump Tower meeting never happened?????
Just going to sweep that one right under the rug???
I can guarantee you Mueller isn’t. If he was debried on the meeting crafted a lie about it on Air Force One. Had the Ukraine plank removed. He’s toast. Done. Conspiracy
The Trump Tower meeting seems like an entrapment type ploy by Fusion GPS. The Russian lawyer was connected to Fusion GPS. Plus there's nothing illegal about it. It's just shady for both sides.
The dopey ROOOSKIE!!! Lawyer met with Fusion both before AND after the meeting. Now, why would that be and how?
Just an odd coincidence, yet again? Or said lawyer was simply setting up a day of random meetings to maximize her time in town and these 3 meetings all took place bam, bam, bam.
Uhhhh, no. Nothing fishy here. And who was funding Fusion?
Oh, that’s right MSDNC and Cank campaign.
Shocking I tell ya, shocking.
Let's Play a Game of What If - JMUDunk - 03-02-2018 02:15 PM
(03-02-2018 12:32 PM)gdunn Wrote: If Machy was so hell-bent on fairness he'd be screaming for Mueller's team to inspect the DNC server. To me, I'm not a real tech guy, would be able to prove if the "Russian malware" did in fact download data and send it elsewhere and to see where that signature is.
Maybe I'm too hopeful.
I’m starting to think the “hack” was the inside work of those Pakistanis wathhermen shulz had on her payroll for doing no work by most of them.
The one guy at least was, maybe he and the wife, rummaging ALL OVER House email accounts and gained access to dozens of computers and accounts. By extension be pretty easy access to others in email contact with those accounts. Horse face was DNC Chair at the time too, let’s remember. Her laptop is later “found”, sans hard drive in a phone booth at midnight...
LOT of shady schit going on all over the place up there.
RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - gdunn - 03-02-2018 02:19 PM
I'm going with a loose based theory that Mueller has dick and now he's hoping that the "hacking" proves collusion. Without that, there's nothing dirty that the Trump campaign did.
So what if Seth Rrich did give the emails to WikiLeaks? What's the next step in the tangled web of collusion?
Let's Play a Game of What If - JMUDunk - 03-02-2018 02:26 PM
Finding out who was, and who hired the hit man to take him out.
And there was plenty dirty by the Trump campaign, they won! That’s all any of this is about.
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RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - Machiavelli - 03-02-2018 02:44 PM
The dopey ROOOSKIE!!! Lawyer met with Fusion both before AND after the meeting. Now, why would that be and how?
Just an odd coincidence, yet again? Or said lawyer was simply setting up a day of random meetings to maximize her time in town and these 3 meetings all took place bam, bam, bam.
Uhhhh, no. Nothing fishy here. And who was funding Fusion?
Oh, that’s right MSDNC and Cank campaign.
Shocking I tell ya, shocking.
Link Please? New Standard trying to be applied.
RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - Machiavelli - 03-02-2018 02:50 PM
When you give a link it's a lot easier to go to politifact and snopes and show you are factually wrong. Like the DNC server and this doozy:
And Politico‘s headlines read: “Liberals Lash Out at Lauer, NBC“. It seems to me, no one is “lashing out” but Hillary.
Hillary’s meltdown included throwing a water glass at a staffer — narrowly missing her head, and demanding Matt Lauer be fired! She was overheard threatening executives at NBC saying “If I lose, we all go down and that Fascist **** will have us swinging from nooses! What the **** is wrong with you idiots?”
RATED: FALSE!
You remember these two doozies just from today? I know it's hard when you rely on fake news to be correct but think of me as your friendly bs editor. I usually just search your claims. The Snopes or Politifact generally show it to be false. You might want to try it out on your own. I find no pleasure in doing this really. Time consuming actually. Slapping down these falsehoods takes time.
RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - bullet - 03-02-2018 02:54 PM
(03-02-2018 07:52 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:(03-02-2018 07:45 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: So that Trump Tower meeting never happened?????
Just going to sweep that one right under the rug???
I can guarantee you Mueller isn’t. If he was debried on the meeting crafted a lie about it on Air Force One. Had the Ukraine plank removed. He’s toast. Done. Conspiracy
The Trump Tower meeting seems like an entrapment type ploy by Fusion GPS. The Russian lawyer was connected to Fusion GPS. Plus there's nothing illegal about it. It's just shady for both sides.
Yep. And where's Mach's outrage about Hillary paying the Russians for dirt on Trump? Never once has he denounced that.
RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - bullet - 03-02-2018 02:56 PM
(03-02-2018 02:50 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: When you give a link it's a lot easier to go to politifact and snopes and show you are factually wrong. Like the DNC server and this doozy:
And Politico‘s headlines read: “Liberals Lash Out at Lauer, NBC“. It seems to me, no one is “lashing out” but Hillary.
Hillary’s meltdown included throwing a water glass at a staffer — narrowly missing her head, and demanding Matt Lauer be fired! She was overheard threatening executives at NBC saying “If I lose, we all go down and that Fascist **** will have us swinging from nooses! What the **** is wrong with you idiots?”
RATED: FALSE!
You remember these two doozies just from today? I know it's hard when you rely on fake news to be correct but think of me as your friendly bs editor. I usually just search your claims. The Snopes or Politifact generally show it to be false. You might want to try it out on your own. I find no pleasure in doing this really. Time consuming actually. Slapping down these falsehoods takes time.
No link as usual. And it was reported by the liberal media, not by Fox or Breitbart.
RE: Let's Play a Game of What If - 200yrs2late - 03-02-2018 03:20 PM
(03-02-2018 02:50 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: When you give a link it's a lot easier to go to politifact and snopes and show you are factually wrong. Like the DNC server and this doozy:
And Politico‘s headlines read: “Liberals Lash Out at Lauer, NBC“. It seems to me, no one is “lashing out” but Hillary.
Hillary’s meltdown included throwing a water glass at a staffer — narrowly missing her head, and demanding Matt Lauer be fired! She was overheard threatening executives at NBC saying “If I lose, we all go down and that Fascist **** will have us swinging from nooses! What the **** is wrong with you idiots?”
RATED: FALSE!
You remember these two doozies just from today? I know it's hard when you rely on fake news to be correct but think of me as your friendly bs editor. I usually just search your claims. The Snopes or Politifact generally show it to be false. You might want to try it out on your own. I find no pleasure in doing this really. Time consuming actually. Slapping down these falsehoods takes time.
What evidence did Snopes use when giving it the "False" rating?
Let's Play a Game of What If - JMUDunk - 03-02-2018 03:26 PM
(03-02-2018 02:44 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: The dopey ROOOSKIE!!! Lawyer met with Fusion both before AND after the meeting. Now, why would that be and how?
Just an odd coincidence, yet again? Or said lawyer was simply setting up a day of random meetings to maximize her time in town and these 3 meetings all took place bam, bam, bam.
Uhhhh, no. Nothing fishy here. And who was funding Fusion?
Oh, that’s right MSDNC and Cank campaign.
Shocking I tell ya, shocking.
Link Please? New Standard trying to be applied.
For which part?