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Official expansion thread - TheBigEastSucks - 03-05-2017 08:11 AM
The only reason we need to expand is to make more money. This would by far be the best and most reasonable options and we could renegotiate and get paid now
Add all sports
1. Colorado state
2. Air Force
3. Boise state
4. SDSU
Basketball only to offset navy
1. Witchita state
* I left byu off but take them
RE: Official expansion thread - MemphisTigerFreak - 03-05-2017 08:15 AM
No.
Official expansion thread - PurpleReigns - 03-05-2017 08:36 AM
Isn't there an expansion board or something?
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RE: Official expansion thread - TheBigEastSucks - 03-05-2017 08:49 AM
(03-05-2017 08:15 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote: No.
Who would you like to see added or stay the same?
RE: Official expansion thread - KNIGHTTIME - 03-05-2017 09:48 AM
I'm over the west coast expansion. Let's not jump the shark. Our football conference is fine and will only improve. I'd like us to turn our hoops league into a top 5 league. That is going to separate us from the g4.
Only exception is getting Army and Air Force.
RE: Official expansion thread - Phil Lacio - 03-05-2017 10:16 AM
(03-05-2017 09:48 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: I'm over the west coast expansion. Let's not jump the shark. Our football conference is fine and will only improve. I'd like us to turn our hoops league into a top 5 league. That is going to separate us from the g4.
Only exception is getting Army and Air Force.
Army, Air Force, byu, bsu, Gonzaga, St. Mary's and wsu should be the only schools being considered for expansion.
RE: Official expansion thread - BigEastHomer - 03-05-2017 10:34 AM
(03-05-2017 09:48 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: I'm over the west coast expansion. Let's not jump the shark. Our football conference is fine and will only improve. I'd like us to turn our hoops league into a top 5 league. That is going to separate us from the g4.
Only exception is getting Army and Air Force.
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The thread on Wichita, Dayton, and VCU, is more than sufficient.
RE: Official expansion thread - KNIGHTTIME - 03-05-2017 10:37 AM
(03-05-2017 10:16 AM)Phil Lacio Wrote:(03-05-2017 09:48 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: I'm over the west coast expansion. Let's not jump the shark. Our football conference is fine and will only improve. I'd like us to turn our hoops league into a top 5 league. That is going to separate us from the g4.
Only exception is getting Army and Air Force.
Army, Air Force, byu, bsu, Gonzaga, St. Mary's and wsu should be the only schools being considered for expansion.
My thoughts...
Football - only Air Force and Army (Political Clout and TV $$$)
Basketball - Wichita State, VCU, and Dayton or St Louis
RE: Official expansion thread - Phil Lacio - 03-05-2017 10:40 AM
(03-05-2017 10:37 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:(03-05-2017 10:16 AM)Phil Lacio Wrote:(03-05-2017 09:48 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: I'm over the west coast expansion. Let's not jump the shark. Our football conference is fine and will only improve. I'd like us to turn our hoops league into a top 5 league. That is going to separate us from the g4.
Only exception is getting Army and Air Force.
Army, Air Force, byu, bsu, Gonzaga, St. Mary's and wsu should be the only schools being considered for expansion.
My thoughts...
Football - only Air Force and Army (Political Clout and TV $$$)
Basketball - Wichita State, VCU, and Dayton or St Louis
Not a bad scenario either.
Official expansion thread - Puckhead48E - 03-05-2017 12:07 PM
People really think getting the AFA or, God forbid, Army, is somehow going to make some political hay towards becoming a true P6? Put the pipe down and back away from the bottle. That idea is about as bright as thinking some 4 timezone cross-country conference is somehow going to create the rivalries that grow viewership and a following amongst t-shirt fans.
****...next you're going to tell me you think the AAC is dragging UCONN men's hoops down and that they would have been led by Ollie on another championship run if they stayed in the big East.
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RE: Official expansion thread - DefCONNOne - 03-05-2017 12:21 PM
My thoughts...no expansion. At all. No bball-only's, no all-sports members, nobody!! Why does everyone insist on adding more mouths to feed, with an already pitiful payout?
RE: Official expansion thread - Phil Lacio - 03-05-2017 12:28 PM
(03-05-2017 12:21 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote: My thoughts...no expansion. At all. No bball-only's, no all-sports members, nobody!! Why does everyone insist on adding more mouths to feed, with an already pitiful payout?
true
RE: Official expansion thread - BigEastHomer - 03-05-2017 12:30 PM
Happy we have a Commish with an extensive background in television.
Not worried about the pitiful payout that was negotiated when the conference was in survival mode.
The gains made since that time in performance and growing an audience have created some unique opportunities to evolve the membership and identity of the conference in preparation for our next contract.
IMO, the conference needs to adjust the membership to reflect the other basketball superconferences. Wichita State, VCU, and Dayton, increase value for the AAC in the aggregate.
RE: Official expansion thread - Stookey57 - 03-05-2017 12:44 PM
Add Wichita all sports but fb, if they want football make them play fcs for 2 years.
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RE: Official expansion thread - Bearcats#1 - 03-05-2017 01:00 PM
AAC needs to expand
we need some help in hoops and we need some help in football
RE: Official expansion thread - MemphisTigerFreak - 03-05-2017 01:04 PM
(03-05-2017 08:49 AM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:(03-05-2017 08:15 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote: No.
Who would you like to see added or stay the same?
Since you summoned my expert opinion (#snicker), for football I would only add Boise and BYU. They've already turned us down so stay put at 12. This has already been beaten to death. This is why I just said "No."
For all other sports I would add Wichita State ONLY if ESPN tells us they bring more OR equal money to what each team will get at the next contract negotiation. This is my first choice scenario. If that works out, I like the idea of also adding Dayton and VCU for all sports minus football ONLY if they ADD value. I like the idea of the regional pairings someone suggested: Cinci/Dayton, UConn/Temple, VCU/ECU, UCF/USF, Houston/SMU, Tulsa/Wichita, and Memphis/Tulane. An 11/3 split still gives the all sport schools the super majority and is not like the old Big East.
RE: Official expansion thread - sfink16 - 03-05-2017 01:07 PM
(03-05-2017 01:00 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: AAC needs to expand
we need some help in hoops and we need some help in football
Not much help in FB beyond those schools that already screwed us in Boise and by extension SDST. BYU will never be a consensus pick, probably not getting enough conference votes. All the others are borderline FB help at best.
RE: Official expansion thread - robertfoshizzle - 03-05-2017 01:08 PM
(03-05-2017 01:04 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:(03-05-2017 08:49 AM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:(03-05-2017 08:15 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote: No.
Who would you like to see added or stay the same?
Since you summoned my expert opinion (#snicker), for football I would only add Boise and BYU. They've already turned us down so stay put at 12. This has already been beaten to death. This is why I just said "No."
For all other sports I would add Wichita State ONLY if ESPN tells us they bring more OR equal money to what each team will get at the next contract negotiation. This is my first choice scenario. If that works out, I like the idea of also adding Dayton and VCU for all sports minus football ONLY if they ADD value. I like the idea of the regional pairings someone suggested: Cinci/Dayton, UConn/Temple, VCU/ECU, UCF/USF, Houston/SMU, Tulsa/Wichita, and Memphis/Tulane. An 11/3 split still gives the all sport schools the super majority and is not like the old Big East.
I will re-post my proposal from another thread:
There are a lot of ways scheduling could work in a 14-team league. I would imagine it would start with pairing up travel partners as annual home-and-homes like such:
UConn - Temple
Cincinnati - Dayton
East Carolina - VCU
UCF - USF
Memphis - Tulane
Houston - SMU
Tulsa - Wichita State
Divisions would not be necessary at that point. You play your regional rival twice a year, plus 4 other teams home-and-home. You play the remaining 8 teams only once (in pairs for travel purposes) for a total of 18 conference games. I will use my school as an example:
Cincinnati's schedule in year 1 of the new AAC:
Week 1: @ Wichita State, @ Tulsa
Week 2: East Carolina, VCU
Week 3: @ UCF, @ USF
Week 4: Houston, SMU
Week 5: @ Dayton
Week 6: Memphis, Tulane
Week 7: @ UConn, @ Temple
Week 8: Wichita State, Tulsa
Week 9: @ East Carolina, @ VCU
Week 10: Dayton
So you have your school, your regional rival, and 6 pairs of geographic rivals. You play 2 of those pairs twice in year 1, then the next 2 pairs in year 2, the next 2 pairs in year 3, then you start over again in year 4.
RE: Official expansion thread - MemphisTigerFreak - 03-05-2017 01:36 PM
(03-05-2017 01:08 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:(03-05-2017 01:04 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:(03-05-2017 08:49 AM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:(03-05-2017 08:15 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote: No.
Who would you like to see added or stay the same?
Since you summoned my expert opinion (#snicker), for football I would only add Boise and BYU. They've already turned us down so stay put at 12. This has already been beaten to death. This is why I just said "No."
For all other sports I would add Wichita State ONLY if ESPN tells us they bring more OR equal money to what each team will get at the next contract negotiation. This is my first choice scenario. If that works out, I like the idea of also adding Dayton and VCU for all sports minus football ONLY if they ADD value. I like the idea of the regional pairings someone suggested: Cinci/Dayton, UConn/Temple, VCU/ECU, UCF/USF, Houston/SMU, Tulsa/Wichita, and Memphis/Tulane. An 11/3 split still gives the all sport schools the super majority and is not like the old Big East.
I will re-post my proposal from another thread:
There are a lot of ways scheduling could work in a 14-team league. I would imagine it would start with pairing up travel partners as annual home-and-homes like such:
UConn - Temple
Cincinnati - Dayton
East Carolina - VCU
UCF - USF
Memphis - Tulane
Houston - SMU
Tulsa - Wichita State
Divisions would not be necessary at that point. You play your regional rival twice a year, plus 4 other teams home-and-home. You play the remaining 8 teams only once (in pairs for travel purposes) for a total of 18 conference games. I will use my school as an example:
Cincinnati's schedule in year 1 of the new AAC:
Week 1: @ Wichita State, @ Tulsa
Week 2: East Carolina, VCU
Week 3: @ UCF, @ USF
Week 4: Houston, SMU
Week 5: @ Dayton
Week 6: Memphis, Tulane
Week 7: @ UConn, @ Temple
Week 8: Wichita State, Tulsa
Week 9: @ East Carolina, @ VCU
Week 10: Dayton
So you have your school, your regional rival, and 6 pairs of geographic rivals. You play 2 of those pairs twice in year 1, then the next 2 pairs in year 2, the next 2 pairs in year 3, then you start over again in year 4.
I would even be ok with 20 conference games. That way every 2 years you go through everyone home/home.
RE: Official expansion thread - DefCONNOne - 03-05-2017 02:15 PM
(03-05-2017 12:30 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote: Happy we have a Commish with an extensive background in television.
Not worried about the pitiful payout that was negotiated when the conference was in survival mode.
The gains made since that time in performance and growing an audience have created some unique opportunities to evolve the membership and identity of the conference in preparation for our next contract.
IMO, the conference needs to adjust the membership to reflect the other basketball superconferences. Wichita State, VCU, and Dayton, increase value for the AAC in the aggregate.
WSU, VCU and Dayton won't add bumpkiss to the pitiful payout we're getting now and in the future.
What's that stupid saying..."Football drives the bus"? Remind me again which of those schools play D1-A football. I'll take my answer off the air.