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NMR- 10 colleges w/ lowest acceptance rates - DrTorch - 12-09-2014 02:33 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/10-colleges-where-applicants-least-likely-140000454.html
School name (state)
Fall 2013 acceptance rate
U.S. News rank and category
Stanford University (CA) 5.7% 4 (tie), National Universities
Harvard University (MA) 5.8% 2, National Universities
Columbia University (NY) 6.9% 4 (tie), National Universities
Yale University (CT) 6.9% 3, National Universities
Princeton University (NJ) 7.4% 1, National Universities
United States Naval Academy (MD) 7.4% 13, National Liberal Arts Colleges
Cooper Union (NY) 7.7% 2, Regional Colleges (North)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 8.2% 7, National Universities
University of Chicago 8.8% 4 (tie), National Universities
United States Military Academy (NY) 9% 24 (tie), National Liberal Arts Colleges
RE: NMR- 10 colleges w/ lowest acceptance rates - axeme - 12-09-2014 02:57 PM
Not much meaning to be derived. Those schools work overtime getting people to apply that have no chance of getting in. It's not that they aren't selective--they are--but if you weed out those who put in vanity applications, the numbers may be very different. For the top few, it's a cottage industry to churn out HS seniors to send last year.in those applications.
I have a daughter who is now a college freshman and got to see a lot of this first hand last year.
RE: NMR- 10 colleges w/ lowest acceptance rates - uakronkid - 12-09-2014 03:11 PM
Say you're hiring somebody, and you have two candidates fresh out of college. One went to a school that only lets a handful of students in but graduates everybody with no real challenge, and the other to a school that lets more students in but pushes them hard enough that only the best make it through. Which would you rather have?
I'm not saying that acceptance rate isn't an important metric, but on its own it doesn't mean very much.
RE: NMR- 10 colleges w/ lowest acceptance rates - DrTorch - 12-09-2014 03:19 PM
(12-09-2014 02:57 PM)axeme Wrote: Not much meaning to be derived. Those schools work overtime getting people to apply that have no chance of getting in. It's not that they aren't selective--they are--but if you weed out those who put in vanity applications, the numbers may be very different. For the top few, it's a cottage industry to churn out HS seniors to send last year.in those applications.
I have a daughter who is now a college freshman and got to see a lot of this first hand last year.
What's the payoff for the universities? Just the mantle of exclusivity?
RE: NMR- 10 colleges w/ lowest acceptance rates - uakronkid - 12-09-2014 03:26 PM
(12-09-2014 03:19 PM)DrTorch Wrote:(12-09-2014 02:57 PM)axeme Wrote: Not much meaning to be derived. Those schools work overtime getting people to apply that have no chance of getting in. It's not that they aren't selective--they are--but if you weed out those who put in vanity applications, the numbers may be very different. For the top few, it's a cottage industry to churn out HS seniors to send last year.in those applications.
I have a daughter who is now a college freshman and got to see a lot of this first hand last year.
What's the payoff for the universities? Just the mantle of exclusivity?
For some, yes. There are small, private universities out there that exist solely for attracting affluent individuals that want to feel special, and will pay handsomely for it including donations after graduation. They encourage high application rates just so they can have low acceptance numbers.
Ivy League schools and Stanford and others are "victims" of their own reputations. At this point it's a matter of momentum.
NMR- 10 colleges w/ lowest acceptance rates - axeme - 12-09-2014 03:27 PM
(12-09-2014 03:19 PM)DrTorch Wrote:(12-09-2014 02:57 PM)axeme Wrote: Not much meaning to be derived. Those schools work overtime getting people to apply that have no chance of getting in. It's not that they aren't selective--they are--but if you weed out those who put in vanity applications, the numbers may be very different. For the top few, it's a cottage industry to churn out HS seniors to send last year.in those applications.
I have a daughter who is now a college freshman and got to see a lot of this first hand last year.
What's the payoff for the universities? Just the mantle of exclusivity?
Absolutely. It's one of the key metrics in ranking the top schools.
RE: NMR- 10 colleges w/ lowest acceptance rates - DrTorch - 12-09-2014 04:27 PM
(12-09-2014 03:27 PM)axeme Wrote:(12-09-2014 03:19 PM)DrTorch Wrote:(12-09-2014 02:57 PM)axeme Wrote: Not much meaning to be derived. Those schools work overtime getting people to apply that have no chance of getting in. It's not that they aren't selective--they are--but if you weed out those who put in vanity applications, the numbers may be very different. For the top few, it's a cottage industry to churn out HS seniors to send last year.in those applications.
I have a daughter who is now a college freshman and got to see a lot of this first hand last year.
What's the payoff for the universities? Just the mantle of exclusivity?
Absolutely. It's one of the key metrics in ranking the top schools.
So they recruit students to apply just so they can reject them. Wow, more evidence on the low state of the academy.
There are only 3 places I'd want my son to go to, and that's counting ASU's Honors college. Still time for him to develop further interests, but at this point most places would just be a waste of his time.
RE: NMR- 10 colleges w/ lowest acceptance rates - Okie Chippewa - 12-09-2014 05:24 PM
I really feel sorry for those poor schools. If only they could raise enough money to hire some more professors and build some more dorms. Then they could improve upon those abominably low acceptance rates.
