(03-05-2016 07:05 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:28 PM)757ODU Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:17 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:00 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 05:39 PM)ODU Hoops Wrote:  This is clearly not Jones' fault. I can't believe you are actually an odu fan.

Don't bother recruiting a kid if you can't finish the deal or if he has a history of being wishy washy.

It wasted time, resources and potentially scared away other recruits.

This kid seems like a douche anyways, given his history.

Screw him.

The kid signed a LOI. That is getting it complete. Lots of kids transfer from school-to-chool-school in HS sports, but it is pretty rare that they ask for release from a LOI. This is totally on the kid and his dad. I can't help but get the impression that you are so enamored of your negativity toward Jones that you would spin anything to support it.

Razor, I never mind your negativity towards Jones because I think a lot of it is warranted. This, however, is not his fault. He closed on a massive recruit with Xavier Green. The kid is absolutely wishy washy but come on man...Was it not worth a shot? We are still in good shape next year if Jones allows these guys to play.

I suppose it was worth a shot......but you either seal the deal or you don't.

Maybe we should have hired his dad as an assistant, it worked with the Stith's ha ha

But yeah, I can't help but feel he won't be missed. Kid seems like he thinks he's too good for everyone.

I don't blame jones for him backing out but to act like there were not red flags all over the place around this kid is disingenuous. Taking him after he had already pulled out on a big 12 a school was a huge risk that backfired.

Like I said, it is what it is.

(03-05-2016 07:53 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 07:05 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:28 PM)757ODU Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:17 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:00 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Don't bother recruiting a kid if you can't finish the deal or if he has a history of being wishy washy.

It wasted time, resources and potentially scared away other recruits.

This kid seems like a douche anyways, given his history.

Screw him.

The kid signed a LOI. That is getting it complete. Lots of kids transfer from school-to-chool-school in HS sports, but it is pretty rare that they ask for release from a LOI. This is totally on the kid and his dad. I can't help but get the impression that you are so enamored of your negativity toward Jones that you would spin anything to support it.

Razor, I never mind your negativity towards Jones because I think a lot of it is warranted. This, however, is not his fault. He closed on a massive recruit with Xavier Green. The kid is absolutely wishy washy but come on man...Was it not worth a shot? We are still in good shape next year if Jones allows these guys to play.

I suppose it was worth a shot......but you either seal the deal or you don't.

Maybe we should have hired his dad as an assistant, it worked with the Stith's ha ha

But yeah, I can't help but feel he won't be missed. Kid seems like he thinks he's too good for everyone.

I don't blame jones for him backing out but to act like there were not red flags all over the place around this kid is disingenuous. Taking him after he had already pulled out on a big 12 a school was a huge risk that backfired.

Like I said, it is what it is.

Of course it was worth a shot. Its not like we don't have any more scholarships and we gave the last one to Tre. JJ got a signed LOI from the kid. Cant do much more than that. I feel good about the three guys coming in. But man, Evans seemed to be a program changing talent. I am very bummed about it. But as my buddy always says, "its hard being a Monarch fan".

(03-04-2016 10:24 PM)757ODU Wrote:  

(03-04-2016 08:42 PM)Jabber Wrote:  New Name
https://twitter.com/Juco_Offers/status/705789431383330816

Can't shoot the 3

(03-05-2016 07:53 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 07:05 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:28 PM)757ODU Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:17 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:00 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Don't bother recruiting a kid if you can't finish the deal or if he has a history of being wishy washy.

It wasted time, resources and potentially scared away other recruits.

This kid seems like a douche anyways, given his history.

Screw him.

The kid signed a LOI. That is getting it complete. Lots of kids transfer from school-to-chool-school in HS sports, but it is pretty rare that they ask for release from a LOI. This is totally on the kid and his dad. I can't help but get the impression that you are so enamored of your negativity toward Jones that you would spin anything to support it.

Razor, I never mind your negativity towards Jones because I think a lot of it is warranted. This, however, is not his fault. He closed on a massive recruit with Xavier Green. The kid is absolutely wishy washy but come on man...Was it not worth a shot? We are still in good shape next year if Jones allows these guys to play.

I suppose it was worth a shot......but you either seal the deal or you don't.

Maybe we should have hired his dad as an assistant, it worked with the Stith's ha ha

But yeah, I can't help but feel he won't be missed. Kid seems like he thinks he's too good for everyone.

I don't blame jones for him backing out but to act like there were not red flags all over the place around this kid is disingenuous. Taking him after he had already pulled out on a big 12 a school was a huge risk that backfired.

Like I said, it is what it is.

Of course it was worth a shot. Its not like we don't have any more scholarships and we gave the last one to Tre. JJ got a signed LOI from the kid. Cant do much more than that. I feel good about the three guys coming in. But man, Evans seemed to be a program changing talent. I am very bummed about it. But as my buddy always says, "its hard being a Monarch fan".

(03-05-2016 08:15 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 07:53 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 07:05 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:28 PM)757ODU Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:17 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  The kid signed a LOI. That is getting it complete. Lots of kids transfer from school-to-chool-school in HS sports, but it is pretty rare that they ask for release from a LOI. This is totally on the kid and his dad. I can't help but get the impression that you are so enamored of your negativity toward Jones that you would spin anything to support it.

Razor, I never mind your negativity towards Jones because I think a lot of it is warranted. This, however, is not his fault. He closed on a massive recruit with Xavier Green. The kid is absolutely wishy washy but come on man...Was it not worth a shot? We are still in good shape next year if Jones allows these guys to play.

I suppose it was worth a shot......but you either seal the deal or you don't.

Maybe we should have hired his dad as an assistant, it worked with the Stith's ha ha

But yeah, I can't help but feel he won't be missed. Kid seems like he thinks he's too good for everyone.

I don't blame jones for him backing out but to act like there were not red flags all over the place around this kid is disingenuous. Taking him after he had already pulled out on a big 12 a school was a huge risk that backfired.

Like I said, it is what it is.

Of course it was worth a shot. Its not like we don't have any more scholarships and we gave the last one to Tre. JJ got a signed LOI from the kid. Cant do much more than that. I feel good about the three guys coming in. But man, Evans seemed to be a program changing talent. I am very bummed about it. But as my buddy always says, "its hard being a Monarch fan".

It's not quite that simple. We are stuck with one PG who may or may not be ready to be the guy next season. I have to believe we would have signed another PG if Evans wasn't signed.

It also not as simple as saying you can't blame JJ. This is the third questionable character kid he signed, and none of them panned out.

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(03-05-2016 08:28 PM)Jackie Moon Wrote:  Do we bring in Simpkins from Bishop Sullivan?

(03-05-2016 08:46 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 08:15 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 07:53 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 07:05 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:28 PM)757ODU Wrote:  Razor, I never mind your negativity towards Jones because I think a lot of it is warranted. This, however, is not his fault. He closed on a massive recruit with Xavier Green. The kid is absolutely wishy washy but come on man...Was it not worth a shot? We are still in good shape next year if Jones allows these guys to play.

I suppose it was worth a shot......but you either seal the deal or you don't.

Maybe we should have hired his dad as an assistant, it worked with the Stith's ha ha

But yeah, I can't help but feel he won't be missed. Kid seems like he thinks he's too good for everyone.

I don't blame jones for him backing out but to act like there were not red flags all over the place around this kid is disingenuous. Taking him after he had already pulled out on a big 12 a school was a huge risk that backfired.

Like I said, it is what it is.

Of course it was worth a shot. Its not like we don't have any more scholarships and we gave the last one to Tre. JJ got a signed LOI from the kid. Cant do much more than that. I feel good about the three guys coming in. But man, Evans seemed to be a program changing talent. I am very bummed about it. But as my buddy always says, "its hard being a Monarch fan".

It's not quite that simple. We are stuck with one PG who may or may not be ready to be the guy next season. I have to believe we would have signed another PG if Evans wasn't signed.

It also not as simple as saying you can't blame JJ. This is the third questionable character kid he signed, and none of them panned out.

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Thats a stretch.

(03-05-2016 08:50 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 08:46 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 08:15 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 07:53 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 07:05 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  I suppose it was worth a shot......but you either seal the deal or you don't.

Maybe we should have hired his dad as an assistant, it worked with the Stith's ha ha

But yeah, I can't help but feel he won't be missed. Kid seems like he thinks he's too good for everyone.

I don't blame jones for him backing out but to act like there were not red flags all over the place around this kid is disingenuous. Taking him after he had already pulled out on a big 12 a school was a huge risk that backfired.

Like I said, it is what it is.

Of course it was worth a shot. Its not like we don't have any more scholarships and we gave the last one to Tre. JJ got a signed LOI from the kid. Cant do much more than that. I feel good about the three guys coming in. But man, Evans seemed to be a program changing talent. I am very bummed about it. But as my buddy always says, "its hard being a Monarch fan".

It's not quite that simple. We are stuck with one PG who may or may not be ready to be the guy next season. I have to believe we would have signed another PG if Evans wasn't signed.

It also not as simple as saying you can't blame JJ. This is the third questionable character kid he signed, and none of them panned out.

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Thats a stretch.

How?

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(03-05-2016 09:13 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  COME ON. Are you kidding me? All three of them had a pattern of behavior. You can argue, maybe, that Evans's lack of loyalty is not a character flaw. But everyone knew about Perv before he even got to campus, and Douglas was involved in physical violence that resulted in police involvement on three separate occasions in less than a year. The ONLY argument to be made here is whether or not it is worth the risk. In the case of Evans, I would say it was. In the other two cases, I would say no.

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(03-05-2016 09:13 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  COME ON. Are you kidding me? All three of them had a pattern of behavior. You can argue, maybe, that Evans's lack of loyalty is not a character flaw. But everyone knew about Perv before he even got to campus, and Douglas was involved in physical violence that resulted in police involvement on three separate occasions in less than a year. The ONLY argument to be made here is whether or not it is worth the risk. In the case of Evans, I would say it was. In the other two cases, I would say no.

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(03-05-2016 10:22 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 09:13 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  COME ON. Are you kidding me? All three of them had a pattern of behavior. You can argue, maybe, that Evans's lack of loyalty is not a character flaw. But everyone knew about Perv before he even got to campus, and Douglas was involved in physical violence that resulted in police involvement on three separate occasions in less than a year. The ONLY argument to be made here is whether or not it is worth the risk. In the case of Evans, I would say it was. In the other two cases, I would say no.

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What kind of insider information did you have about Pervier before he set foot on campus? What, were you and he and Michael Phelps hanging out together doing bong hits?

(03-05-2016 10:34 PM)Sithlord Wrote:  Let's seal the deal on Matt Coleman so we can all say Tre Evans who?

(03-05-2016 08:15 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 07:53 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 07:05 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:28 PM)757ODU Wrote:  

(03-05-2016 06:17 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  The kid signed a LOI. That is getting it complete. Lots of kids transfer from school-to-chool-school in HS sports, but it is pretty rare that they ask for release from a LOI. This is totally on the kid and his dad. I can't help but get the impression that you are so enamored of your negativity toward Jones that you would spin anything to support it.

Razor, I never mind your negativity towards Jones because I think a lot of it is warranted. This, however, is not his fault. He closed on a massive recruit with Xavier Green. The kid is absolutely wishy washy but come on man...Was it not worth a shot? We are still in good shape next year if Jones allows these guys to play.

I suppose it was worth a shot......but you either seal the deal or you don't.

Maybe we should have hired his dad as an assistant, it worked with the Stith's ha ha

But yeah, I can't help but feel he won't be missed. Kid seems like he thinks he's too good for everyone.

I don't blame jones for him backing out but to act like there were not red flags all over the place around this kid is disingenuous. Taking him after he had already pulled out on a big 12 a school was a huge risk that backfired.

Like I said, it is what it is.

Of course it was worth a shot. Its not like we don't have any more scholarships and we gave the last one to Tre. JJ got a signed LOI from the kid. Cant do much more than that. I feel good about the three guys coming in. But man, Evans seemed to be a program changing talent. I am very bummed about it. But as my buddy always says, "its hard being a Monarch fan".

It's not quite that simple. We are stuck with one PG who may or may not be ready to be the guy next season. I have to believe we would have signed another PG if Evans wasn't signed.

It also not as simple as saying you can't blame JJ. This is the third questionable character kid he signed, and none of them panned out.

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(03-05-2016 11:10 PM)Prideofalion Wrote:  I like the kids that are on the team now. That's all that matters. We are better off without the douchebag from Oklahoma. Bet u anything he ends up transferring anyhow. Personally.. The transfer rout might be the way to go.. When a kid transfers in you know he's not leaving. Our best 2 players are transfers. Same next year. The recruiting landscape has changed. I wouldn't be surprised if we sign 2 more transfers for the upcoming year. Probably one more juco and a kid that has to sit for a year. Fine by me.