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NMR: UAB football gets shut down - uakronkid - 11-30-2014 04:29 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24852086/reports-uab-ad-out-football-program-could-shut-down-this-week?
What a horrible situation for UAB fans. They're treated like dirt by the 'Bama board of trustees. The BOT blocked them from hiring Jimbo Fisher when he was abailable, they blocked them from building a much needed on-campus stadium on the basis of not having enough money and then approved a new scoreboard for 'Bama for the same amount as the proposed stadium the next day.
This might affect the MAC. Did any MAC teams have them scheduled? Will C-USA look to the MAC to find their replacement?
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - Motown Bronco - 11-30-2014 04:33 PM
No MAC teams on UAB's future schedule.
I'm guessing CUSA looks to Sun Belt for the replacement.
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - Kimbosucks - 11-30-2014 05:32 PM
Clark will land on his feet. He has done an admirable job this season. Too bad this is happening to their fans.
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - Frozenbaugh - 11-30-2014 06:31 PM
I could be wrong but I seem to recall they were worried about this years ago.
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - Bronco'14 - 11-30-2014 06:33 PM
Sad thing is this is what most people want: G5 teams to shut their doors for D1 for good.
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - DrTorch - 11-30-2014 06:35 PM
(11-30-2014 06:33 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: Sad thing is this is what most people want: G5 teams to shut their doors for D1 for good.
Yes. And I wouldn't be surprised if similar chatter starts happening in OH and MI. A guy from Alabama that I knew was expanding his small business to OH, and he told me that Ohio politics was as bad or worse than Bama.
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - Bronco'14 - 11-30-2014 06:41 PM
(11-30-2014 06:35 PM)DrTorch Wrote:(11-30-2014 06:33 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: Sad thing is this is what most people want: G5 teams to shut their doors for D1 for good.
Yes. And I wouldn't be surprised if similar chatter starts happening in OH and MI. A guy from Alabama that I knew was expanding his small business to OH, and he told me that Ohio politics was as bad or worse than Bama.
I'll believe it when I see. They've been saying this stuff for YEARS. Expect the off-season to be really rumor-filled with UAB shutting down now and nothing to come out of it as usual.
UAB is also part of the UA system. Works different then ALL of the MAC schools. We're not affiliated with UofM/MSU and you aren't affiliated with OSU.
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - BruceMcF - 11-30-2014 07:57 PM
(11-30-2014 06:41 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: UAB is also part of the UA system. Works different then ALL of the MAC schools. We're not affiliated with UofM/MSU and you aren't affiliated with OSU.This is a key point ... this can't be done with Board of Trustee insider politics in either Ohio or Michigan, since the Boards of Trustees of OSU, MSU or That School Up North do not govern any of the eight MAC schools from those two states.
In Ohio, it'll be about regional balance of power politics, with the MAC having a strong position in three of them ... and if they logroll with UC, a strong position in four out of five.
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - DrTorch - 12-01-2014 12:20 PM
(11-30-2014 06:41 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:(11-30-2014 06:35 PM)DrTorch Wrote:(11-30-2014 06:33 PM)Bronco14 Wrote: Sad thing is this is what most people want: G5 teams to shut their doors for D1 for good.
Yes. And I wouldn't be surprised if similar chatter starts happening in OH and MI. A guy from Alabama that I knew was expanding his small business to OH, and he told me that Ohio politics was as bad or worse than Bama.
I'll believe it when I see. They've been saying this stuff for YEARS. Expect the off-season to be really rumor-filled with UAB shutting down now and nothing to come out of it as usual.
UAB is also part of the UA system. Works different then ALL of the MAC schools. We're not affiliated with UofM/MSU and you aren't affiliated with OSU.
Good points, but these changes do take years.
I just don't think things are so linear. There are a variety of ways for MAC programs to get pruned, should Boards of Regents become interested.
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - rocketinchitown - 12-01-2014 05:33 PM
Also the massive amount of alumni and boosters who'd cry foul.
In no offense to UAB, but they dont have the history that some MAC schools have to help them, plus the previous coaches.
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - ColinApocalypse - 12-01-2014 05:38 PM
Sad day whenever a football program gets shut down, especially at this level. Where are the coaches/players going to go? Any speculations?
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - Love and Honor - 12-01-2014 06:17 PM
I believe that the players are free to transfer and play immediately, although the odds of all of them getting a scholarship elsewhere is slim to none. I'd have to think that Clark, with his immediate success and coaching experiences throughout the south, would be able to get another coaching job at the FCS level at least. Hopefully his staff tags along, it's just an unfortunate situation for everyone.
Let's all be grateful that the MAC isn't made up of schools like Michigan-Ypsilanti, Illinois-Dekalb, and Ohio State-Athens, otherwise I'd be getting worried. At least UB is a flagship in the SUNY system.
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - Steve1981 - 12-01-2014 06:55 PM
(11-30-2014 04:29 PM)uakronkid Wrote: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24852086/reports-uab-ad-out-football-program-could-shut-down-this-week?In my perfect world UAB Football is not shutdown. But if it does, my next best thing is for the A10 to pick up UAB, the AAC west picks up UTEP and then adds UMass in the east.
What a horrible situation for UAB fans. They're treated like dirt by the 'Bama board of trustees. The BOT blocked them from hiring Jimbo Fisher when he was abailable, they blocked them from building a much needed on-campus stadium on the basis of not having enough money and then approved a new scoreboard for 'Bama for the same amount as the proposed stadium the next day.
This might affect the MAC. Did any MAC teams have them scheduled? Will C-USA look to the MAC to find their replacement?
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - BruceMcF - 12-01-2014 08:24 PM
(12-01-2014 06:55 PM)Steve1981 Wrote: This might affect the MAC. Did any MAC teams have them scheduled? Will C-USA look to the MAC to find their replacement?Lucky OhioU looked so unappealing as a prospective add this season ... a move from the MAC to Conference USA may be a lateral move, but a move from the MAC East to CUSA East is probably a step up.
Quote: In my perfect world UAB Football is not shutdown. But if it does, my next best thing is for the A10 to pick up UAB, the AAC west picks up UTEP and then adds UMass in the east.So the idea there is that UAB added to the A10 is a big enough threat to the American in BBall that they flip flop on staying at 12?
I think if the A10 were to add UAB, there is no domino effect on the American. But it seems like the best that could happen to UAB, given the decision out of Tuscaloosa.
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - H2Oville Rocket - 12-02-2014 11:29 AM
(12-01-2014 06:17 PM)Love and Honor Wrote: I believe that the players are free to transfer and play immediately, although the odds of all of them getting a scholarship elsewhere is slim to none. I'd have to think that Clark, with his immediate success and coaching experiences throughout the south, would be able to get another coaching job at the FCS level at least. Hopefully his staff tags along, it's just an unfortunate situation for everyone.
Let's all be grateful that the MAC isn't made up of schools like Michigan-Ypsilanti, Illinois-Dekalb, and Ohio State-Athens, otherwise I'd be getting worried. At least UB is a flagship in the SUNY system.
Might be Ohio-Columbus.
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - All Dukes_All Day - 12-02-2014 01:20 PM
(12-01-2014 06:17 PM)Love and Honor Wrote: I believe that the players are free to transfer and play immediately, although the odds of all of them getting a scholarship elsewhere is slim to none. I'd have to think that Clark, with his immediate success and coaching experiences throughout the south, would be able to get another coaching job at the FCS level at least. Hopefully his staff tags along, it's just an unfortunate situation for everyone.
Let's all be grateful that the MAC isn't made up of schools like Michigan-Ypsilanti, Illinois-Dekalb, and Ohio State-Athens, otherwise I'd be getting worried. At least UB is a flagship in the SUNY system.
I believe they'll still be required to honor their scholarships which was the case when Hofstra and Northeastern disbanded their teams a few years back. I also remember that those who were offered elsewhere were not required to sit out and could play immediately. Some other schools might get some solid dudes for next season.
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - uakronkid - 12-02-2014 01:21 PM
Wouldn't any player who wants to transfer be able to do so with no restrictions and not have to sit out?
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - Lord Stanley - 12-02-2014 01:21 PM
(12-01-2014 06:17 PM)Love and Honor Wrote: I believe that the players are free to transfer and play immediately, although the odds of all of them getting a scholarship elsewhere is slim to none.
Confirmed that players (non-scholarship or not) of any discontinued sport are eligible to transfer to any institution and be immediately eligible. How this works when you find your sport is being cut while in season throws a wrench into the situation, however.
My guess is that a UAB player could leave the university today, enroll at a new university tomorrow, and be immediately eligible to play at the new school. How the logistics of that actually happening are beyond me, and probably impossible.
I agree that coming into a scholarship immediately would be difficult but any player worth their mettle would probably receive a scholarship offer in the second year of their time on the team.
Watch for a lot of these players to go FCS and Div II.
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - UConnHusky - 12-02-2014 02:18 PM
I can see CUSA filling UAB's spot with either Georgia Southern or Arkansas State and then the Sun Belt filling their open spot with UMass (as a football only - it would be a lucky break for UMass if they find a landing spot for football but get to keep their other sports in the A-10)
RE: MNR: UAB football gets shut down - EmeryZach - 12-02-2014 02:58 PM
^
Sun Belt doesn't need to fill a spot though if they lose a team.