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OT - Talk about unprepared to play... - Tomball Owl - 10-09-2014 07:58 PM

The Texans are giving a clinic on it at Reliant. 17-0 half way through the 1Q.


OT - Talk about unprepared to play... - Woodlands Owl - 10-09-2014 07:59 PM

They look pathetic


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RE: OT - Talk about unprepared to play... - Tomball Owl - 10-09-2014 08:08 PM

Is there a run rule in the NFL? They may need it tonight.

Colts have converted every 3rd down but one tonight.


RE: OT - Talk about unprepared to play... - gsloth - 10-09-2014 08:33 PM

Well, they've averaged almost 30 point blowouts so far in the first 5 Thursday night games. But Houston starting to make it a touch more interesting.


RE: OT - Talk about unprepared to play... - Tomball Owl - 10-09-2014 08:38 PM

As bad as the Texans looked in the 1Q, it's now 24-14 with 8+ minutes to play in the 2Q.


RE: OT - Talk about unprepared to play... - Fort Bend Owl - 10-09-2014 09:41 PM

They shouldn't have let Arian Foster give the Texans team pregame pep talk. Actually the team has played pretty well after its horrible start (now 27-21 after being down 24-0 after 1 quarter). And Foster has played well - he just was the guy bad-mouthing Thursday night games in general.

I like Bill O'Brien from what I've seen. If they can get a real QB and upgrade the offensive line, I think he can do some decent things.

And I do think Foster is right for the most part. If the NFL wants to have a Thursday game every week, they should extend the season to 18 weeks (16 games in 18 weeks) and try to have teams coming off of byes play in those Thursday night games every time if possible.


RE: OT - Talk about unprepared to play... - gsloth - 10-09-2014 10:02 PM

Yeah, they've got to give bye weeks before these games to the teams - it's only fair. That way the 2 teams (or more on Thanksgiving) have an extended break before the game, and then an extended break before their next game.

The only problem with that approach is what about those first couple of weeks. The opening week guys get the extended break afterward, but when do they get a bye week? Or do they play on Thursday twice? And same with the week 2 and maybe 3 teams, who are having a bye week so early.

And someone did a study last season of the Thursday night games and they weren't any more turnover, injury or blowout prone than a regular game. But these just don't feel decent quality this year, for whatever reason.


RE: OT - Talk about unprepared to play... - Tomball Owl - 10-09-2014 10:40 PM

The Colts had a short week as well. They were ready to play.

And Fitz just fumbled to end the Texans comeback.


RE: OT - Talk about unprepared to play... - Fort Bend Owl - 10-09-2014 10:41 PM

Wasn't JJ Watt's fault. Watt is probably the best Houston pro athlete since Hakeem Olajuwon? Maybe Earl Campbell?


RE: OT - Talk about unprepared to play... - jh - 10-09-2014 10:49 PM

(10-09-2014 09:41 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I like Bill O'Brien from what I've seen. If they can get a real QB and upgrade the offensive line, I think he can do some decent things.

Might want to work on their secondary too.


RE: OT - Talk about unprepared to play... - gsloth - 10-10-2014 07:05 AM

(10-09-2014 10:40 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  The Colts had a short week as well. They were ready to play.

And that's why these blowouts (last night excepted, though it certainly seemed headed that way in the first quarter) don't make sense. Why is essentially only 1 team showing up ready to play? You would think both would be similarly worn down/unfocused.

Maybe it's just the teams being selected to face off with each other.

Here's the original analysis I was thinking of.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/sloppy-night-football-on-thursdays-guess-again/

And then found one more recent example.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimpagels/2014/10/09/no-thursday-nfl-games-arent-more-sloppy-or-prone-to-blowouts/

And while the results may be a statistical anomaly, part of me wonders if it's not fair to build the built in bye weeks (or add another one to the season as part of chopping 2 pre-season games) into the timing of a Thursday night game.


RE: OT - Talk about unprepared to play... - RiceLad15 - 10-10-2014 08:34 AM

(10-10-2014 07:05 AM)gsloth Wrote:  
(10-09-2014 10:40 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  The Colts had a short week as well. They were ready to play.

And that's why these blowouts (last night excepted, though it certainly seemed headed that way in the first quarter) don't make sense. Why is essentially only 1 team showing up ready to play? You would think both would be similarly worn down/unfocused.

Maybe it's just the teams being selected to face off with each other.

Here's the original analysis I was thinking of.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/sloppy-night-football-on-thursdays-guess-again/

And then found one more recent example.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimpagels/2014/10/09/no-thursday-nfl-games-arent-more-sloppy-or-prone-to-blowouts/

And while the results may be a statistical anomaly, part of me wonders if it's not fair to build the built in bye weeks (or add another one to the season as part of chopping 2 pre-season games) into the timing of a Thursday night game.

If you made the situation analogous to boxing, you would probably find that two tired fighters will still probably end the fight with a KO.

The preparation isn't the problem, IMO, but the fact that there is less time for the players to recover following a gruesome game the Sunday before. I don't think the issue is anything mental (sure an extra day or two of prep would help), but rather physical fatigue that can't always be cured by preseason conditioning.


RE: OT - Talk about unprepared to play... - Tomball Owl - 10-10-2014 08:47 AM

(10-10-2014 07:05 AM)gsloth Wrote:  
(10-09-2014 10:40 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  The Colts had a short week as well. They were ready to play.

And that's why these blowouts (last night excepted, though it certainly seemed headed that way in the first quarter) don't make sense. Why is essentially only 1 team showing up ready to play? You would think both would be similarly worn down/unfocused.

It's simple. Coaching!

The Colts came out last night and knew exactly what they were going to do. The Texans looked lost for the entire 1Q. Best example is the successful onside kick. The Colts are the only team in the league to successfully execute on OS kick this year, yet the Texans were totally caught off guard. That's coaching, or better said, the lack of it.


RE: OT - Talk about unprepared to play... - OptimisticOwl - 10-10-2014 09:00 AM

(10-10-2014 08:47 AM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(10-10-2014 07:05 AM)gsloth Wrote:  
(10-09-2014 10:40 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  The Colts had a short week as well. They were ready to play.

And that's why these blowouts (last night excepted, though it certainly seemed headed that way in the first quarter) don't make sense. Why is essentially only 1 team showing up ready to play? You would think both would be similarly worn down/unfocused.

It's simple. Coaching!

The Colts came out last night and knew exactly what they were going to do. The Texans looked lost for the entire 1Q. Best example is the successful onside kick. The Colts are the only team in the league to successfully execute on OS kick this year, yet the Texans were totally caught off guard. That's coaching, or better said, the lack of it.

I wonder if a new FG kicker would do as much or more for them as a new coach.